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How George W. Bush Made It Possible for Donald Trump To Wreck the GOP

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How George W. Bush Made It Possible for Donald Trump To Wreck the GOP

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If the 2016 GOP primary is a long meltdown, Saturday night was when the core breached and the damage became catastrophic.

Sure, the damage that Donald Trump’s incendiary rhetoric about Mexicans, Muslims, the disabled, women, and anyone who doesn’t call him a genius was probably already irreversible. But in that two-hour debate, the billion-dollar baby found the cracks in the Republican coalition and began fracking away.

“I will tell you. They lied,” said Trump when asked about George W. Bush’s prosecution of the Iraq War, as Jeb Bush stood a few feet away. “And they said there were weapons of mass destruction and there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.”

This was like Code Pink in full anti-war fury, calling out a Bush brother to his face. Trump also praised Planned Parenthood, noting that abortions are only a tiny fraction of what it does, and rebuking Ted Cruz: “You are the single biggest liar, you’re probably worse than Jeb Bush.”

Then he mentioned the one indisputable fact you’re never, ever supposed to point out as a Republican: George W. Bush was president on 9/11.

The only way he could go any further would be to actually throw a shoe at a Bush.

The crowd booed him several times but the online poll at the Drudge Report — the sewer into which all that is conservative online drains and flows — showed this:

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“If [his debate performance] doesn’t backfire, then it will be official; nothing can stop him,” GOP strategist Curt Anderson said.

Um. Yeah.

The tribalism of the GOP — along with massive support from vested donors who depend on Republicans to make the richest ever richer — has kept the party together despite its undeniable failures. Trump is proving he can stomp on half the tribe and still win, violating the rule that you’re never supposed to mention Bush failures where you eat.

Republicans are finally figuring out that their party isn’t their party. Decades of identity politics built on resentment and loss have created a moveable beast ready to follow anyone fearless enough to savage their opponents and promise a restoration of lost status.

George W. Bush is a victim of this mob mentality because Jeb is calling on his brother for backup. But more than any living Republican, W. — or the machine around W. — figured out how to channel identity politics into political power.

One fortunate son paved the way for another.

Trumpism is all about braggadocio and the use of power for its own sake. W. Bushism proceeded with the same mentality, while adhering to the pre-Trump etiquette of only hinting his true intentions with heavily coded language.

With a veneer of respectability and a pseudo-aristocratic pedigree, Bush definitely differed from Trump in style. He wasn’t willing to swing wildly in public and he had an innate sense of legacy that drove him to woo the fastest growing group of new voters, Latinos, rather than using them as scapegoats for America’s ills.

Instead, Bush’s policies did the wild swinging for him — and the damage he did to America and the Republican Party is finally becoming clear with the emergence of Donald Trump.

Trump seems ahistorical with his disconnection from reality and his willingness to invent facts that serve his narrative, of an America in decline that only he can save. But his closest antecedent is the Bush/Cheney administration

From his campaign built on lying about who would benefit most from his tax cuts to claiming a mandate from an election he lost to passing those surplus-draining tax cuts, Bush’s willingness to ignore precedent and reality was evident long before the Iraq War.

While Bush deserves credit for visiting a mosque and calling for tolerance in the days after 9/11, his administration’s relentless drive for war in Iraq was only possible by exploiting America’s worst fears, creating a culture of endless war that has seen us bomb more than a half dozen Muslim countries since 2001.

With Republicans finally debating whether the Iraq War was an act of outright deception or just complete incompetence, the idea that the facts can be trimmed to fit a presidential agenda wasn’t just politics as usual for the Bush Administration. It was the result a philosophy that embraced the art of intentional deception — a right-wing response to a world without a countervailing superpower.

‘We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality,” a Bush aide later identified as Karl Rove told author Ron Suskind. “And while you’re studying that reality— judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors… and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'”

For decades, the right has been building what historian Rick Perlstein calls “The Long Con.” But only during the Bush era did that confidence game become apocalyptic — just as the national unity that followed 9/11 was charred by the insanity of the Iraq War.

While most of America sees the Bush Administration as a failure, the party’s biggest donors experienced its massive transfer of the wealth and its regulatory elimination (which sped climate change and ushered in the Great Recession) as tremendous spoils of victory.

After decades of right-wing conspiring to create a conservative majority on the Supreme Court, the high bench delivered Citizens United and the decimation of nearly all campaign finance laws. That decision encouraged Republican billionaires to step in and create their own shadow party. The party establishment was left powerless in the face of an actual billionaire donor stepping into the fray, ready to burn everything down — whenever it might suit his fancy.

From the increasing abandonment of reality during the Bush era, a straight line can be drawn to the complete denial of climate science, the absolute abandonment of normal political order to obstruct Barack Obama, and now, the rise of Trump.

The party has actively shrugged off the constraints of reality in the name of power. And today they confront a skillful, reckless interloper who is even better at that than they are.

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  1. Dominick Vila February 15, 2016

    Mudslinging between political candidates is almost an American tradition, what is amazing this election season is the fact that Donald Trump, the man who elicits love and enthusiasm from the far right, is actively engaged in the destruction of the Republican party, and many Republicans don’t realize it.
    He trashed the GOP, its foreign policy record, and its phony investigations and claims, like nobody else has…and Republicans love it! I have to admit, I love it too, and can’t wait for more of the same! At this rate, he may end up getting more Democratic sympathizers than Republican supporters.

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    1. itsfun February 15, 2016

      I believe that Donald Trump just says things as he sees them. I don’t think he is either a Republican or Democrat. He just had to pick a party name to run on. Bernie has done much of the same thing as he has never been a Democrat. Maybe our country is tired of just Republicans and Democrats and wants to see a anti establishment candidate that doesn’t bow down to the establishment elite. I find it refreshing to see candidates that actually tell us what they believe and not what the party leaders tell them to say and do.

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      1. 11thStPopulist February 15, 2016

        What they have in common is that they do not take super PAC money (Bernie small donors and Trump is self financed). Also both favor single payer health care.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

          Let me give you a clue about those “self financiers.” I live in NJ. Jon Corzine bought his governorship…then the scandels started…first with that girlfriend he magically donated a home in the wealthiest area of NJ too long after they broke up. Then, in 2010, Corzine the Great SelfFinanced governor got himself into hot water with the SEC over some shady investment deals..By the way, Corzine was the former CEO of Goldman Sachs…where there’s GS, corruption isn’t far behind.

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          1. 11thStPopulist February 15, 2016

            No question that Donald Dump is corrupt. He has mafia ties, although not the first, unfortunately. Also with multiple marriages, one daughter born before marriage, and multiple affairs, there are plenty of tabloid scandals and no doubt a lot of hush money paid. Family values he is not. None of that fazes his “fans” however.

            I was just looking for a common thread as to why both those on the left and those on the right are choosing anti-establishment candidates. Both Trump and Bernie were anti-war in Iraq, but for different reasons. That is another commonality. Most of the country now sees that war as a disaster. Many of us have strong feelings about our Middle East debacle and will not support pro-war candidates.

            No, Bernie is a decent human being who puts the welfare of his constituents first. Trump is a megalomaniac. He will self-destruct the way other narcissists have – like Corzine and so many others (primarily male).

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        2. dpaano February 15, 2016

          Trump is not self-financed, although he keeps telling people that he is. Money made from his many fundraisers (?) go directly to the Trump Foundation, and that’s the money he uses for his campaign, so he’ NOT completed self-funded as much as he’d like us to believe.

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    2. charleo1 February 15, 2016

      Well, that’s the show isn’t it? That Trump is branding himself as a Republican, and openly sacking the Est. Grand Old Party. And, the hard core radicals that dominate their Primaries, love it. Not that Lefties aren’t being very entertained.
      Of course the fact the Iraq invasion was a huge blunder was never any secret outside the RW media bubbles. Where in that inverse universe there were actual WMDs, Saddam got rid of somehow. Or. “everyone sure thought he had them,” so, Bush was only invading out of a determination to keep us safe. Ask just last year if they would do it again, they all lined up and agreed to a man, it was still a marvelous idea! But, the colossal failure of the Bush Adm. Adm. to keep us safe, 9/11, of which no respectable Republican dare speak, Trump did. Rudy Giuliani, of all people made the comment on a talk show back in 2003, that we had never been attacked while Bush was keeping watch! Jeb Bush in 2015: Say what you want about my brother, “He kept us safe.” The left, for it’s part, wanted a thorough investigation conducted of how we got into that God awful war. Wanted Bush, and Co, proved guilty in a court of law of intentionally lying to the public, causing the wrongful death of 100s of thousands, and sent to Leavenworth. That didn’t happen, so I guess we’ll have to settle for one of their very own calling them to account for it. If nothing else, just for the pleasure of watching the sanctimonious weasels squirm.

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      1. Dominick Vila February 15, 2016

        Something else we should not forget is that our misunderestimated former President gave a free pass to the homeland of Osama bin Laden, the Saudi Wahhabi princes that financed 9 11, and 17 of the 19 terrorists that carried out the attacks, in exchange for lucrative contracts for U.S. companies and the purchase of U.S. Treasury bonds and notes to help offset the effects of his irresponsible tax cuts. Kind of reminds me of another thug did two millennia ago in exchange for a few silver coins…and most right wingers love him for it!

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        1. charleo1 February 15, 2016

          A good point, many had overlooked, or forgotten. In fact, the closer one looks at what the Bush Adm. did, post 9/11, the more rotten, and really unforgivable it becomes. Bush related once that he cares little what his legacy will be, as he will be dead. That eventual state is getting luckier all the time, for him and his legacy. We’ll need to wait and see if he takes the once illustrious Party of Lincoln down for the ages before that happens.

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    3. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

      I only see The Donald using the same “Art of the Deal” he uses in business. Play to the weakest minded, while sticking it to his competitors.

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    4. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

      No, they do realize it.

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  2. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

    Did you actually read this before you posted it? I have read some disjointed editorials before but this one is really out of left field. What exactly were you trying to say? Was there actually some kind of thesis here that I didn’t notice or did you skip class that day in English 101?

    Let me make this easy for you. Trump is not a neo-con and he just destroyed their presence in the republican party, now celebrate. Go ahead, it’s ok. I know you are now nervous because the ultra-hawk Killary is out there waiting for your vote but relax it’s going to be OK. Trump will take her down next and the neo-cons days will truly be finished.

    Now repeat after me; Thank you Donald, you have served your country well.

    “disconnection from reality” my shiny metal backside.

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    1. charleo1 February 15, 2016

      Did you read the part about Trump lying, making up facts to fit his narrative? How he’s appealing to the lowest dispositions, even trending toward outright Fascism? If you read the article again, you might grasp what the author is saying about a political organization’s willingness to ignore reality in the quest for power. And agree, all the damage the decision by the GOP to do that, has brung to the Country. And also, naturally, logically, intuitively, why the Country doesn’t want a repeat. Will refuse to turn from an incompetent ideologue Bush, to an outrageous demagogue Trump. Choosing not out of anger, or frustration with the status quo. Nor by choosing defeatism, nihilism, or disgraceful scapegoating nativism over the expectation that we can fix our democracy without abandoning our core values as a people. And it all can begin today with you, by carefully re-reading, and fact checking this article.

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      1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

        Not to put to fine a point on this but what a load of garbage. You act as if you are talking to a child who doesn’t already have a far better understanding of politics than the average American ever will. Your comprehension of today’s issues are so thin that, “skin deep” would be overstating it. What exactly do you think “core values” mean to the average American? Let me explain it to you, there is no such thing in America today. There are talking points, dog whistles and propaganda. Core values went out of style about 50 years ago. Middle America is simply fed up and disgusted and there is nobody else to turn to. So like it or not Trump will be your next president. Fix our “democracy” with what and for whom? You want to fix something? Remove the political divide that has been created by the Republicrats, slay the two headed dragon that is devouring our wealth and prosperity. Vote for the blowhard, outrageous demagogue who is the only man around willing and able to do it. You might not get another chance in your lifetime.

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        1. charleo1 February 15, 2016

          You sound like you could be the poster child for a lost group of people that trusted those on the Right. Who said they were conservatives. Who told you they were looking out for you. Said they were going to make sure you weren’t left behind in a global economy. Was going to bring in a smaller gov. with low taxes, and a balance budget, and stop the tax and spend Dems. And make America first, or safe, or great again. Or whatever else their pollsters told them they thought you wanted to hear. But instead, they sold you out to the highest bidder like they planned to all along. And now you feel like a fool, and are very angry at being played like a fiddle. I get that, and Trump gets that. But that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to be President of the United States.

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            And again you are 100% skin deep and have no idea what you are talking about. I have never voted for a Republican in my life and I’m actually a Grandfather now. I detest the Republican party and always have. What you don’t understand is there are people such as myself who have never trusted the government and who don’t even trust Trump. I don’t have to trust the man to see that he is destroying the neo-cons. That is more that enough for anyone to support the man, so get over your shallow opinions and get with the program. If you absolutely can not vote for anyone who will represent you but you can in fact vote for someone who will tear down that which you know for a fact is harmful what choice do you make? You can sit on your can and support more of the same or hope that after the horrible system we now have is ripped apart, that something good will come after it. Worst case scenario we get more of the same. Best case we get a fresh start after the two parties implode. Works for me and anyone who doesn’t see just how horrible are two parties are has no business giving me a lecture.

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          2. Independent1 February 15, 2016

            Like I’ve asked so many, although it’s a given that politicians are often self-serving and there are always those who are corrupt within the system, please identify for me all the ‘horrible things’ that the Democrats have done which even remotely compare to the damage that the Republicans have done over the past 50 years – with an outright crook like Nixon, America’s worst president ever Reagan, who has destroyed the very fabric of America with his ‘it’s the government that’s the problem’, his fantasy that the wealthy are benevolent keepers of our country (trickle-down economics Bs), his destruction of unions; his setting up the country for todays enormous income inequality by cutting the max tax rate then raising taxes 11 times on the middleclass; his supporting of Saddam Hussein’s use of chemical weapons and dealing openly with terrorists; and on and on; and then follow by all the disasters that Bush 2 created which we are all well aware of.

            When you paint our political system with a broad brush of hatred please identify all the downers done by the Democrats that offset things like Social Security and Medicare and now the Affordable Care Act and more. Please be specific about how terrible the Democrats have been that you and so many seem to have so much distain for them.

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          3. charleo1 February 15, 2016

            Don’t you see your paranoia, and cynicism is affecting your judgement? Well, that would a no, obviously. But, your line of thinking gets us nowhere. I don’t trust the gov. you say. Fine, then you’re advocating what to replace it? Trump? It’s a dead end. Sanity, logic, and clear headed, fact based judgement is our way out my friend. By the way, I’m curious. Who was your hero before, that broke your heart, and left you so bereft of faith in the goodness, and ability of the American people to persevere, and set things to right? So much so, you believe we need a Trump to burn down the village to save the village? I’ll give you an example.

            Just yesterday Trump was lamenting the loss of jobs to outsourcing. And used Carrier Air Conditioning Co. as an example of what a President Trump would do. First he said he would tell them if they moved their production he would tax them heavily. Reminded the President doesn’t write the tax code, he said he would convince Congress to do it. How’s that going to work, I ask you? He’s going to a Republican led House, and a filibuster prone Senate, and demand they punish a private co. if it doesn’t do what the gov. or the Donald tells it to do, and stop outsourcing. Then he’s going to impose the same salve on all the other private cos.. who’ve outsourced. Plus build a wall, and defeat international terrorism, protect SS, and Medicare, raise middle class wages, and make everything peachy! You know, like it once was. And you’re the cynic who don’t trust gov. and I’m the idiot?

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          4. dpaano February 15, 2016

            And, he conveniently forgets that he’s outsourced several of his own products……constructive memory, is it?

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          5. charleo1 February 17, 2016

            Hello reality! That hard cold immovable thing these pretenders keep running headlong onto. Financial collapse, environmental disasters, poisoned water supplies, a corrupted, dysfunctional political process that provides tax breaks for moving jobs over
            seas. Oh, and did I mention their base hates every last one of them? That last one has to hurt!

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          6. jmprint February 15, 2016

            And gamble with fascism, no thanks.

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          7. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            I love how people toss out ISM’s when they clearly don’t know what they mean.

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        2. Independent1 February 15, 2016

          If you’re so smart about politics, how come your posts are nothing more than nonsensical gibberish that really ends up meaning nothing?? What a waste of keystrokes!!!

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

            Sadly, middle aged men today have way too much free time, are totally ungainfully employed and worse, most of them believe it must be handed to them on a silver platter. The 35 to 55 year olds all believe they just shouldn’t have to work hard or pay their dues. That’s why you see so many of them whining in posts.

            I call them the Twerpie Generation because they epitomize a generations of slackers who aged too late into responsiblity, expected everything to just be as easy as pie and never, but never should they suffer the consequences of their actions. Ergo, Paul Ryan, Chaffetz, Gowdy, Cotton, Walker, Cruz, Rubio and the cookie cutter template suckups who get their palms buttered so they don’t have to ever break a sweat.

            But, all seniors know that comes to a grinding halt when these Twerpie Generation dissidents have to answer to a younger generation the Twerps took so little time to pay attention to.

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          2. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

            He’s retired, he has nothing better to do than be a troll on a site that doesn’t believe a word he says.

            Fairly pathetic, but typical of a loser trump supporter, that is the type of person drawn to trump…

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          3. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            And your response is exactly what I would expect from a lefty who is threatened by a candidate who is not a war hawk. So how does it feel to support the hawk and have the non-hawk about to take your dear beloved Killary out?

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          4. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

            How does it feel to be a troll on NM where no one believes you?

            You are now at an upvote ratio of below 1, meaning, on average, less than 1 person believes a word you say.

            Congrats, you got there the fastest of any troll, about 1 day is all it took, aren’t you proud of your hatred?

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          5. dpaano February 15, 2016

            Yeah, let’s discuss that AFTER the election when we see who actually wins the presidency…..any bets from anyone here? It certainly WON’T be Trump!!!

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          6. jmprint February 15, 2016

            I can hardly wait to see Hillary beech slap Trump with knowledge, he will walk out, because he won’t be able to handle the pressure.

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          7. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Don’t be so sure and you should hope that he does win. If Hillary wins all it means is that the neo-cons have jumped shipped to the democratic party. Sanders can’t win because of the super delegates that is a 20% handicap that he would have to overcome and it’s not happening for him. So do you want another war monger in chief?

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          8. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            My comments accurately reflect the level of discourse that is being presented. I am accurately parroting all your guys tone and that of the author of this piece of gibberish. If you care to have a an actual discussion with me then simply ask me a question in an adult manner and I’ll answer. But if all you have is more crap then that is exactly what I’m going to give back to you. You guys right now deserve nothing more from me.

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          9. Independent1 February 15, 2016

            Right!! In your mentally retarded mind. You clearly don’t have enough bran cells between your ears to add 2 + 2 and get 4.

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          10. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Oh boy, is that is passed for intelligent liberal argument now?

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          11. Independent1 February 15, 2016

            Who’s arguing? I’m stating a fact which a number of posters here can relate to given your nonsensical assessments of their posts and the above NM article.

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          12. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Right and do you know how much difference there generally is among the ideas of each political party/persuasion? Trust me on this, when you insult one Liberal you insult them all. It’s flock mentality. So since none of you are capable of actually thinking for yourself I would fully expect that your buddies here would have the exact same reaction to anything I would say. I might as well be addressing a single individual.

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          13. Independent1 February 16, 2016

            Really?? If there’s not much difference in the political ideas and persuasions, how come there’s been such a dramatic difference in what the two parties have done for America?? Your comment only continues to prove your mental retardedness and cluelessness!!

            If the parties aren’t any different, how come since Teddy Roosevelt, virtually every GOP administration has been a disaster for America both for the stock market and the economy while BOTH HAVE CONSISTENTLY DONE MUCH BETTER under Democrats??

            Since 1900, the economy, the GDP has had a paltry average annual gain under Republicans of only 2.6% while under Democrats it’s seen a much more robust 4.3% gains!!.
            Since 1930 the stock market under 42 years of failed GOP governance has actually had a negative gain over all those years, while under 44 years Democrats in office it has earned over 300% in gains!!

            And even in just the past 40 years, the stark difference in the political ideologies has seen a marked difference in jobs growth – with Reagan and the two Bushes only being able to create about 24 million jobs over 20 years in office, while in about the same time Carter, Clinton and Obama have created almost twice as many jobs – 40 million.

            And there are millions of Americans at least being able to survive during their retirements today because of social security – DUE TO DEMOCRATS, while the GOP has worked tirelessly trying to destroy SS.

            And today, there are millions of Americans who have health insurance under Medicare, Medicaid and now ACA -DUE ONCE AGAIN TO DEMOCRATS, while once again the GOP has been working to destroy those benefits.

            And on top of all that, since Nixon’s 2nd term, every GOP president has governed by deficit spending, while every Democrat president has worked to reduce deficit spending.

            So you see -your comments are nothing more than utter stupidity of the facts!! The two parties are totally different today not only in their ideology but also their results for America!!

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          14. boxofvapor February 16, 2016

            I love how ignorant ass liberals such as yourself have no idea that it’s Congress which is made up of both Democrats and Republicans that have a far larger effect on the economy than any president ever has and about half the time (on average) those things which you would give credit for or assign blame have been led by Republicans and half the time by Democrats.

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          15. Independent1 February 16, 2016

            Oh I see!! It’s just happenstance that in the 17 recessions and 3 depressions that have occurred since 1900 that it was a Republican who was in office for 14 of the recessions and all the depressions!! What pure bullshit!!

            The Republicans have had control of Congress for well over a year AND WHAT HAVE THEY GOTTEN ACCOMPLISHED THAT OBAMA DIDN’T WANT THEM TO GET ACCOMPLISHED?? YOU ARE A BLITHERING IDIOT!! IT’S THE PRESIDENT THAT VIRTUALLY ALWAYS CONTROLS WHAT DOES OR DOESN’T GET ACCOMPLISHED DURING HIS PRESIDENCY!!

            How many presidential vetoes have been overridden by Congress in the past 40 years?? You can count them on one hand or almost count them on one hand!! But it isn’t very many and I’m not going to waste my time counting them for a blithering idiot like you!!!!!!

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          16. Independent1 February 16, 2016

            And if the parties aren’t any different, why is it that it’s 14 Democrat-run states that are really supporting America – sending enough tax dollars to Washington to keep the country running, while virtually every GOP-run state is running our country dry getting back far more in federal aid dollars than they send to Washington in taxes?

            And why is it that of the 31 states with the most Americans living in poverty that 27 of them are either outright red states or have been run by the GOP for more than 6-8 years??

            And why is it that it’s GOP-run states that BY FAR lead the nation in being places survey groups consider to be miserable places to live with very poor quality of life – and to be the states that BY FAR lead the nation in whatever form of premature death you can conjure up?? (People in GOP-run states live 2-6 year shorter lives than people in Blue States.)

            If there’s no difference in the political parties, why is Texas which has been run by the GOP for decades the cesspool of America where in a comparison to other states it falls in the worst 10 of 100% of 23 socio-economic measures!!!

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        3. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

          Wow, a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

          This is where stupid people think they are smart, because they lack the exact knowledge of what is needed to BE smart, rather they follow their opinions, thinking their opinions ARE smart.

          Follow my link, then maybe you won’t exhibit this behavior so much. (though I doubt you can/will).

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Oh god save me the pop psychology BS please. You remind me of half the kids in Abnormal Psychology class who were just convinced they could diagnose everyone they met in ten seconds. Thanks for the good try though Doctor Phil.

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          2. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

            Yea, I knew Doctorates from Cornell would be above you, but I had to try…

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          3. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            LOL another brilliant comment. By the way, when I left the service I used my GI bill to get my degree in Psychology, two of them actually. I use it to volunteer with vets who have PTSD. What do you do with your degree, use it for toilet paper?

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          4. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

            Then you SHOULD be able to read a well researched study by some of the leaders in the field. Lotsa proven sub-studies. And most professionals in the field cite this work. But you know better than all of them. Right.

            I have several degrees, used professionally, but they are SCIENCE degrees, which you don’t believe in, (1000+ mile wall, anybody).

            As to “used to” volunteer with vets with PTSD, so the heck what, you’re retired? WTF? Get out there and help, rather than waste time being a troll, Does being a troll help you?

            I’m a single parent with a SN child for the last two decades plus, I’m sure my stress levels are higher than yours were ever, and I STILL “volunteer” for PTSD work 24/7/365, get over it, most of us actually like to help people, unlike egotistical Trump.

            Yet I STILL know Trump is a fascist liar. You are like trump a self centered ego, willing to hold his opinions above the truth.

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          5. Independent1 February 15, 2016

            My goodness. Like the typical right-winger you guys make up these glorious fantasies about yourselves when your posts make it clear that you don’t have enough brain cells between your ears to add 2 + 2 and get 4.

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      2. Jinmichigan February 15, 2016

        IF he didn’t get it the first several times, it’s not likely he will get it ever.

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        1. charleo1 February 15, 2016

          Well, he’s just mad. He’s mad because there are people who see the mistake he’s making in his judgement. And so don’t agree with his knee jerk reaction of turning to a demagoguery, spewing huckster, after being played by another clever bunch of hucksters. He’s also been thoroughly dipped in the hogwash about the Left being evil incarnate. So for him they’re out. And feels like Trump is the only salvation possible in sight, for a Nation he truly believes, largely because of all that hogwash I mentioned previously, is circling the drain. He sounds young, so he he’ll get over it, and may start to figure a few things out one of these days.

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Don’t you just love it how people think they know everything about a person because they simply don’t agree with them on any give subject. Yep I’m young for a Grandfather. Yes Democrats are evil just like the republicans and you would know that if you were not blinded by your own party agenda. The one thing I have learned is that people who strongly affiliate with either the left or right have no actual opinions of their own. They parrot the party line and shout down anyone who dares disagree. it would be refreshing if they could come up with something new at least but I’ve been hearing this same boring crap from them for the last 40 years, it never changes and they never seem to think that they are not the very first to say it.

            Polly want a cracker?

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          2. jmprint February 15, 2016

            You are correct in your statement, just not correct that Trump is better than other democratic choices.

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          3. charleo1 February 15, 2016

            No Sir, I don’t know you personally of course. But I have heard your rhetoric before. I first read about it in high school, when the class was studying Soviet propagandists. Their trope about American democracy to their own people, read about the same as yours. They claimed the Americans pretended to have two political organizations that the dumb American Citizen thought they were choosing from. But in actuality they were both two side of the same coin. That America was really controlled by the wealthy industrialists, and war profiteers. So is that your, “new opinion” then, of the way things are in the good old U.S.A.?

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          4. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Other than on wedge issues that the 1% don’t care about this is essentially true. Are you denying that the richest of the rich own our politicians? I’m sure you will say they don’t own Sanders and maybe this is true but then again he isn’t much of a democrat.

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          5. charleo1 February 16, 2016

            Here we agree on the central issue of our time. Money corrupting politics. Big money donors financing campaigns, and handing out cushy jobs to former politicians, or former regulatory officials. Who in turn become lobbyists to influence public policy at the expense of nearly everyone else. And I would imagine we might also agree that today, it is out of control, and must be reigned in. Better that it was stopped entirely. But we must be realistic, that money will always play a power role in forming policies in a quasi-Capitalistic system. That said, I don’t see it as pervasive, or influential as to make the statement that all politician are corrupt. But see it as an unacceptable situation, when a non wealthy person with perhaps great intentions, great ideas, seeks public office to do good, must first be a beggar, soliciting funds, (permission) from that 1% wealthy elite to have a shot at being successful. This undermines the essential trust of the general population that is the foundation of a healthy democracy. This loss of trust in turn produces exactly what we’re seeing today. Frustration, anger, unrest, leading to political instability, and social, if not outright open hopefully peaceful rebellion, Not necessarily a bad thing according to Jefferson, when it becomes widely considered the average individual no longer holds sway in the governmental processes that enact the laws, regulations, and restrictions on liberty, under which we all are required to live out our lives, raise our families, and hopefully prosper.

            So I get Trump’s appeal. I also believe Trump would be the biggest disaster this Country could make at this crucial time. I don’t say that as a Democrat, because Trump has espoused his support for many planks of the Democratic Platform in the past. I say that because of the kind of dishonest, hateful, negative campaign he’s running, reveals his basic lack of qualifications to do the job. I don’t believe the people of my Country are going to elect DT. Primarily because, our government may be effed-up with the money thing right now. But the people are as they’ve always been throughout our illustrious history. Half engaged, half ticked off, opinionated, distracted, but basically moral in their thought, serious in seeking the right path, and constantly searching for the high ground on which to plant our flag that represents small ‘d’ democracy around the World. It sounds corny, and pollyannaish perhaps. But that’s my belief, and I’m sticking to it.

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          6. boxofvapor February 16, 2016

            I think it’s incredibly naive to think that it’s “not pervasive”. By the way I could easily support Sanders for this very reason. Also if we don’t end these wars all of the Social Programs are going to get trashed one way or another. 20 trillion in debt simply can’t be allowed to double again. I would vote for Bernie against any of the other Republicans.

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          7. charleo1 February 17, 2016

            First of all, thanks for a civil conversation where one American of good faith shared his unadulterated views with another. This is how I learn, and come to find my common ground with others
            Owing to the fact that since we’re all in the same row boat, give or take a few trifles.

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          8. boxofvapor February 17, 2016

            Well I actually prefer civil discourse but I also admit that if I’m insulted I will fire back with both barrels. But anytime that you would like to talk with me about anything I’ll promise to keep it polite with you. Have a nice day.

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        2. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

          What a wonderfully clever statement. As if nobody gets it but you guys? Get over yourself.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

            This from Mr. Superiority?

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          2. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Again another brilliant statement from the peanut gallery.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

            The only peanut is the one in your dirty filthy jeans.

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          4. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Oh my you certainly cut me down to size. But isn’t that sexist and you know not PC or something?

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    2. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

      Wow Box of Vapors, you sure are a “box of vapor”! Do you actually read anything or do you get all your info from Fox and the RWNJ screamers?

      Take off your tin hat and slowly back away from the clueless Trump supporters…

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      1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

        Wow idiot, I never watch Faux news and have never voted for a Republican in my entire life. What is wrong with you stupid ass people who always jump to these ignorant conclusions? Are you so used to allowing the media to do your thinking for you that you believe that everyone else on Earth does as well?

        Just answer this, who the hell are you supporting? Forget it, I already know and the answer is more of the same. Good luck with that dumbass.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

          So…is this your new job from The Donald? I didn’t realize he was paying suckups to spew all of the BS that we in the Metro area already know are slathered lies that The Donald has loved to pay others to preach…try again. The Donald had it out with former Mayor Ed Koch over the Brooklyn Navy yard deal back in the day. Trump’s own father told Sonny boy to shut his mouth. But as usual, The Donald pulled his tantrums..So when do your Twerpie Generation Tantrum Classes begin?

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            LOL what a joke. Sure I’m sitting here getting paid. Well if I had a dollar for every time some lame ass excuse for human skin tried pulling that line, I would be rich. It’s amazing how this one gets around isn’t it? Anyone you don’t agree with must be a paid shill. Seriously when did this conspiracy theory get started and by who? You don’t agree with someone so you insult them and actually believe they can’t be speaking their own mind. Dimwits are not hard to find though that’s for sure.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

            You are an unproductive man who can’t meaure up. That’s why you contradict facts WE and not YOU can prove in a court of law. Not a single one of your posts about Trump are true…you serve The Donald as his favorite call boy?

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          3. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Oh cry me a river.

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          4. The dude February 15, 2016

            Eleanore is right and you know it.

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          5. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Hmm another unfounded statement with nothing to back it up. Why am I surprised?

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          6. jmprint February 15, 2016

            Well besides the diarrhea coming out of Trumps mouth, what else does he have to offer? I haven’t seen or hear nothing yet, and I’m watching.

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          7. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Friendship with Russia rather than another cold war for one. That is no small thing. A significantly different trade policy. Real opposition to the neo-cons instead of crawling in bed with them. What is so funny about the guy is that he is actually so much less of a hawk than killary who I assume most of you support or at least will vote for over him. You guys are the same people who opposed W over the war but as soon as Obama took office suddenly had no problems with it. You accepted the spying and the drone strikes and everything else the man did and you will accept it if Killary does it.

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          8. Independent1 February 16, 2016

            Wow!! You have to be a Republican – you’re a pathological liar just like a GOP lover. Claiming that Trump is less of a hawk than Hillary – what outright lies!!

            Trump threatens to build a wall along our southern border and insists he would have the Mexicans pay for it. How would he do that and not at least threaten to start a war with them (they’ve categorically refused to pay for a wall.)

            And here’s just a brief excerpt from an article in Time about just how hawkish Trump is – suggesting we should use our military power to push Opec nations into lowering their oil prices – And wasn’t it Trump who said he would go over and take all the middle East oil?? You lying sack of garbage!! Trump is a big bully and hawk!!

            From Time:

            When recently discussing oil prices on air with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, Donald Trump blustered on about the scheming malfeasance of OPEC and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Trump insisted the U.S. could leverage its military supremacy to persuade OPEC to lower prices. In his words: “I’m going to look ’em in the eye and say, ‘Fellas, you’d have your fun. Your fun is over.'” But this rather naive suggestion of bullying one of the U.S.’s most longstanding and essential allies in the Middle East — not to mention the recent customer in a megabillion-dollar U.S. weapons sale that would create tens of thousands of American jobs — was comparatively harmless when set against his next suggestion.

            And see this about forcefully taking Iraqi oil:

            Trump bemoaned U.S. costs sustained during its wars in the Middle East and floated the idea of “taking” Iraqi oil. Stephanopoulos countered incredulously, “So, we steal an oil field?” Trump responded, “Excuse me. You’re not stealing anything. You’re taking — we’re reimbursing ourselves.” Given how many U.S. leaders have had to stress to their Middle East interlocutors that they’re not in it simply for the oil, Trump would be starting off regional relations on pretty slippery ground.

            http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2068227_2068229_2068345,00.html

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        2. Paul Bass February 15, 2016

          It doesn’t matter if you watch Fox or not, you are still stuck in Trump echo, where there is no truth, only “trumpisms”.

          If you think Trump is truthful, there is nothing that can be said to help you, you are delusional and easily fooled by a fascist, congrats, it sure is a shame you can vote, but don’t worry, I’ll counteract your vote..

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        3. charleo1 February 15, 2016

          Well Sir, as to your never voting for a Winger. It it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s usually a duck.

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            Nope can’t fucking stand them or Democrats. All a bunch of shitheads. Personally I think the whole Bush family should be tried for treason and hung after a very quick trial. Lying fucking traitors. As for Bernie I’ll make an exception I think he is actually half way decent for man who has lived on the public’s dime for the last few decades. At least he isn’t a complete hawk like that bitch Killary and had the sense to vote against Iraq.

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    3. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

      Boxofvapors…So you think The Donald has served his country well? You don’t what to whisper that in Atlantic City bubbo…or anywhere in NJ where taxpayers paid the taxes The Donald didn’t pay and now we are stuck with filling in those gaps. He stuck Atlantic City big time ..but a know it all will never dare say that.

      Oh and by the way, the ONLY reason The Donald is running is to put off having to answer for the FinCEN $22 million lawsuit by the U.S. Treasury. He knows if he by some miracle he makes it to the White House, he can’t be forced to pay up…pay up…you know? Guys like you love to get, get, get…until you to PAY for what YOU GET….then, you look around and see who you can dump your debts on…true Madoffery.

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      1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

        Holy cow where do you get this crap from? Seriously you think the only reason he is running is some lawsuit? Are you some kind of conspiracy nut or what?

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

          I get my FACTS from a place you can’t…the source..Here is the link regarding Trump’s U.S. lawsuit…for laundering money in his Taj Casino to those middle eastern high rollers….http://calvinayre.com/2015/03/11/casino/taj-mahal-can-keep-trumps-name-faces-anti-money-laundering-charges/ Read and weep..

          By the way, just out of curiosity…is your contradictory nature the reason you have no job and are unemployed?

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            And again dimwit. He isn’t going to worry about a lousy 22 mil. That is pocket change to the man. So your assumption as to why that has him running for office is bullshit.

            As for my employment, I’m retired not that it’s any of your fucking business.

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      2. nana4gj February 15, 2016

        Voting for Donald Trump is like voting for the man down the street who gets his info from gossip, hearsay, and who operates from his emotional drive and believes it all as fact, though the Republicans do need to own up re 9/11 and W’s failure all around it, before, during, and after. Instead, they have harped on how “unsafe” we are under this Administration, which is incredible.

        Anyway, the only difference between Trump and the man down the street is that Trump has money, huuuuuge amounts of it that, for some, is enough to offset his total ignorance and his crass persona. Of course, his fondness for Aryan supremacy troubles me and that, alone, is enough for me to reject him. He has pathologies that transcend a simple diagnosis. And his campaign promises are like LSD trips with himself and his throngs of masses hallucinating.

        None of that bunch is fit to serve in any capacity. It will take decades, more decades than it took to fall this low, for the Republicans to rehab themselves, and then, only with intensive shock therapy and maybe an exorcism. Honestly, they are not even worth “debating” because there is no “there” there, other than dysfunctional pathology, one worse than the other.

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    4. nana4gj February 15, 2016

      Actually, I thought it very well written and the metaphor used as the thesis was skillfully woven in, and, sad to say, perfect.

      I think the message was spot on. I think there was plenty to be factual. And, having lived through it, I cannot argue with any of it.

      No Republican is fit to serve anymore, has been my conclusion ever since they systematically and deliberately purged their Party of statesmen/women who did not meet their purity test and they did it in very inglorious ways. This article just confirms.

      They are, simply, unfit to serve. The evidence is in their pathetic slate of candidates every four years, and every four years they are worse than the last. They lose ugly and they win even uglier.

      I wish we could suspend their salaries during the stunts they pull, shutting down the government, shutting down the justice system, and I wish we could fine them or suspend them for a designated period of time when they pull stunts like writing to foreign leaders to usurp the Constitutional authority of the President.

      I’m sick of their Fatwahs and their Intifadas. They are in a constant state of hostilities, and then, they actually declare “War!”, on their own people because they cannot roll with the natural order of business that has potential to threaten their ideology or their base. That is terrorism. They are the biggest threat to this nation. There should be consequences….the only one we really have is to vote them out of office, don’t vote anymore of them in, and don’t sit ANY election out. Everyone is critical these days.

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      1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

        It’s not his critique of the Republicans that I have a problem with. It’s his seemingly lack of knowledge when it comes to Trump and his blind disregard for the Democrats role in this entire mess. Trump is a demagogue and a blowhard but he is also speaking truth to power in a way that nobody else is willing to do and for this the writer says he is disconnected from reality. So here you have Trump actually talking about the lies that led to war and instead of giving him credit for this amazing thing he just did all does is spew bile and conflate Trump right along with the warmongers. Of course the glaring emission is that lack of any mention of Killary. She is every bit that hawk that W and his cronies are. Did he say one word about her? Nope, free pass and right to the slanderous crap about Trump. If you can’t see the bias in this you must have blinders on. Furthermore, the writing was absolutely terrible. It was simply all over the place and he made no case at all as to why he thinks that Trump is somehow no better than W. So he puts together this string of invectives against the Republicans and then magically links them to Trump without making his case for any real connection at all.

        Trump is not W.

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        1. COMALite J February 15, 2016

          He didn’t say that Trump is W. He said that W. enabled Trump. And he did.

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            “But his closest antecedent is the Bush/Cheney administration”

            This is his words not mine. Yeah right, Trump is exactly like Bush and Cheney.

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          2. COMALite J February 15, 2016

            Do you know what the word “antecedent” means? Apparently not.

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        2. jmprint February 15, 2016

          What truth, the power of his mouth, just as soon as he pulls out that spoon. Trump has nothing good to offer America. hHis ot air might fill plenty of balloons, but it’s not going to make America safer nor better, he might even do what is is so good at “bankrupt America”

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          1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

            What truth? Did you miss him calling out the Bush idiots for lying about the WMD’s? Not even Saint Sanders said that. All he said was some wishy washy stuff about Hillary being a little too quick when it comes to regime change, but then he supported her when it came to Libya. You guys just don’t get it do you? If the Republicans can accept the Truth about the war then the war party has been voted out of office. In less of course you idiots vote it back in along with the neo-con Killary.

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          2. Independent1 February 16, 2016

            So he’s good at calling out shills and liars like himself, but virtually nothing he has proposed doing for America to supposedly make it great again, Is either feasible, actually doable, actually affordable or would actually do anything to make America better.

            So your falling in love with Trump because he’s one pathological, maniacal deviant calling out others that act the same way – but failing to see that he has no really viable solutions for moving America forward. How typical of a quasi Republican who operates in his own fantasyland!!!

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          3. boxofvapor February 16, 2016

            You need to go back and read what I have said about him instead of making up a strawman and arguing against it. Find me someplace where I said I either believed him or thought he could get these things done? In fact it’s one of the reasons why I consider voting for him. I know he can’t get these things done, if he could he would be dangerous. However, as CIC he can attempt to get along with Putin and stop a lot of the crap wars that we don’t need. In fact this is about the only area where he seems genuine, the rest is a ton of hyperbole. His opposition to the wars does in fact predate his run for the presidency. No not as early as he claims but he was saying it well before it was a “popular” thing to say.

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      2. charleo1 February 15, 2016

        Heck! That was as good as the article, that probably took days, if not weeks to put together. From the heart, and well done!!!

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    5. jmprint February 15, 2016

      Trump is a fascist.

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  3. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

    If you have lived in the Metro Area or The Donaldville for most of your life, you see TrumpTrends clearly. A. The Donald must have it all, the prettiest wives, (mostly golddiggers), the biggest mansions and the most money. B. The Donald has never been afraid to pull up stakes the minute he smells blood in the water C. The Donald has always, always, always had a motor mouth he pathologically can’t control.

    I don’t blame George W. Bush for anything but being the wrong man in the wrong political dimension. Bush may have swum with the big money boys but he never truly measured up. Bush’s epitaph will be similar to a common prostitutes…”I laid myself bare for money.”

    The Donald on the other hand, not only has measured up to his billionaire cohorts, but he is partaking of their elusive dream of total power and might…the last bastion for these boys to conquer.

    Now, we know that can’t ever happen here in the USA because the court of public opinion has a way of becoming the guillitine that ends all totalitarianism and righteous affluenza diseases.

    The real problem in the US today can be summed up in a single word, “EXCESS.” To greedy people, nothing jacks an ego like excess.
    The more they have, the more they want …even if they have to TAKE it from those who have zip.

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    1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

      Holy crap do you really believe that load of garbage? Talk about class warfare, mixed up with envy, jealousy and ignorance. Probably someone who believes Kennedy was a great man too I bet. But somehow Kennedy was different right? Born with a silver spoon in his mouth, loved his women and popped so many pills that it would have killed an elephant. But that was no problem. You know why? Because when a Democrat is loaded and runs for office they are given the benefit of the doubt. I swear if Donald had run as a Democrat you would be singing his praises.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

        You bet I believe it. And..since I live in the NY/NJ area and you don’t….I know more about what Trump has done. You are a liar and can’t stand the facts. Trump is being sued by the U.S. Treasury. Google the FinCEN lawsuit…Trump allowed Taj players in his casino he knew were middle eastern emirates to be High Rollers knowing they were laundering money to terrorists. You want the U.S. Treasury to call you a liar too?

        Donald Trump like you is a self-important little boy who never got the idea from Daddy that you cannot run roughshed over others hoping they will just lay down while you do it and ask for more.

        Grow up Frat Boy…no one respects your opinions because you post NO facts. All we see of your posts are Rah Rah Trump…Siss Boom BAh Trump…

        Google what happened to The Donald when he tried to mouth off at former NY City Mayor Ed Koch. Or don’t you have the nerve?

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      2. jmprint February 15, 2016

        “if Donald had run as a Democrat you would be singing his praises.”
        ah NO way!

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        1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

          Sure you would, he would have simply changed his rhetoric and you guys would have bought it. If you will vote for Killary that much is obvious.

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  4. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

    I love how the warmonger from both the left and right come out to trash Trump. Well he might not start a war with Russia. Wants to get along with Putin? Well good the commies are not running Russia anymore so who cares.

    Gotta be something wrong with him. He believes we should deport people, what you mean like the 11 million people that Obama has deported who just turned around and walked right back? Just what exactly are you people so damn afraid of besides your own shadows? One man stands up and speaks truth to power and you guys all pee your pants. Pathetic lot you all are!

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

      I believe liars like you who can’t stand facts and truth SHOULD be deported as dangerous enemies of the state. Why don’t you get your butt to Russia? I’m sure you’d serve them well…with all your high end knowledge of everything on planet earth, the Russians will be delighted for you to suck up to Putin.

      Better still…if you really want some high end violent work to keep that adrenalin pumping, there is always ISIS.

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      1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

        I did my duty with the 7th infantry Division (Light) 5th battalion 21st infantry regiment. Bravo Rangers lead the way First Sergeant! Whoo ahhh. I got my first CIB handed to me a long time ago. What unit were you in soldier?

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        1. Buford2k11 February 15, 2016

          thanks…but it seems you still learned nothing…

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    2. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

      By the way, when men his age were fighting in Viet Nam, your punk boy spoiled spiteful Trump was like you…big mouth…and no courage…What he was too valuable to lose a limb or his life for his country?

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    3. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

      Well said.

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    4. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

      You know that Putin is an actual commie, right?

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      1. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

        Oh wait, what am I saying – of course you don’t know that, it wasn’t in the cartoon worldview you were sold.

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        1. boxofvapor February 15, 2016

          Putin was a member of the communist party but since the communist party no longer exists in Russia then you would be wrong now wouldn’t you Jr?

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          1. Mr Corrections February 16, 2016

            Not at all. If you knew anything at all, and you obviously don’t, you’d know that former KGB agent Putin openly longs for a return to the “glories” of communism, and will at the drop of a ushanka start singing patriotic USSR songs. He resents the rise of neo-capitalism in Russia, hates entrepreneurs, and otherwise gives every appearance of wanting to turn back the clock. No wonder the GOP loves that evil murderous dictator.

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          2. boxofvapor February 16, 2016

            You must have ESP then how interesting. Were you a subject of some government progrom? LOL I love idiots who think they “KNOW” something that someone else supposedly Thinks.

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          3. Mr Corrections February 16, 2016

            Sorry that you only have a dim & fuzzy grasp on reality. Not my fault, and it doesn’t justify whatever stupid thing it is you’re ranting about.

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          4. boxofvapor February 16, 2016

            So you who thinks they KNOW what someone else is secretly thinking has a firm grasp on reality?? LOL Go back to reading tea leaves for suckers. You want to talk about an evil Murdering Scum, that would be W, O and Killary. Oh and for what it’s worth I’m no fan of anyone in charge of any government, that doesn’t mean that we should be starting a new cold (or hot) war with Russia. You are probably one of the jack asses who think that Russia is expanding and expanding right? Forget that we have them literally surrounded by bases and are trying to get all of their neighbors to join NATO. But I’ll tell you this, if you want to go fight for the neo-nazi’s in the Ukraine, knock yourself out. Let me know when you leave and be glad to wish you luck.

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          5. Mr Corrections February 16, 2016

            When did I claim to know what you were “thinking”? You clearly never do any such thing.

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  5. Eleanore Whitaker February 15, 2016

    What’s wrong with the Donald being president is that he isn’t running for the people of this country. You don’t that kind of claim when you put thousands out of work in your Casino, bankrupt the city that allowed you to build your private heliport tax free and then flip the bird at NJ taxpayers who paid the taxes Mr. Casino Mogul didn’t. I’d say his deals with Carl Icahn, another hot shot wealth entitled billionaire, is going to bit him in his butt.

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  6. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

    The future First Lady has a nice rack.

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    1. jmprint February 15, 2016

      The wanna be.

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    2. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

      I don’t think Bill Clinton should be referred to as First Lady, although I get that your sense of humour ossified some time in the 1950s.

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      1. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

        I’m not surprised you are fan of Bill’s manboobs.

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        1. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

          I’m not the one who said he had a nice rack.

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        2. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

          Thanks for illustrating your atrophied sense of humour, though. It’s always funnier when you sad sacks make fun of yourselves.

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          1. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            The sad sacks are Bill’s manboobs that turn you on so much.

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          2. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Why would you think that I’m excited by them when it was you that said it? Baffling. You have issues (I mean, aside from the racism and homophobia).

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          3. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            Please, stop talking about your palpable excitement for Bill Clinton’s manboobs, it and you are disgusting, try making an on topic comment instead.

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          4. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            OK, sorry that you think you have any trace of a sense of humour. Whoever misinformed you – probably a parent – did you a grave disservice, although if it was a parent then they manifestly failed in so many other ways with you I guess it is lost in the noise.

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          5. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            You brag about loving old manboobz then get upset when people laugh at you for it.

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          6. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Hilarious! You must be a real thigh-slapper at whatever whites-only retirement home your family has consigned you to.

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          7. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            You bring up a retirement home because all you think about is old manboobz. Try making an topic comment, you disgusting filth.

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          8. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            OK thanks for your input, Adolph. Glad you’re agreeing that there’s no possibility that Hillary Clinton won’t win the Presidency.

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          9. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            Not as glad as you get when you see some old manboobz.

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          10. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Your projection is hilarious, although not as hilarious as watching every ideal you hold dear consigned to the dustbin of history. Cry some more, you sad little fucker.

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          11. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            Wow, I really struck a nerve when I made fun of your love of manboobz.

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          12. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Is that what you think is happening? As with when you ran away in tears from me yesterday, I’m only here to watch your pathetic t meltdowns as every single thing you care about is destroyed before your rheumy old-man eyes. Watching the GOP eat itself is fucking glorious; your tears about the death of racism are the delicious icing. I thank you for them.

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          13. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            You have quite the imagination, manboobz lover.

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          14. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            your denial doesn’t fool a single person.

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          15. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            I don’t deny that you love old manboobz.

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          16. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            I’m sorry, I was laughing too hard at every GOP candidate self-destructing in the last debate to care about whatever drivel it is you wrote. Oh man, this is going to be better than Goldwater.

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          17. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            Also it’s spelled Adolf, dipshit.

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          18. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Ah yes, who would know more about your hero than you.

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          19. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            You didn’t pay attention in school, you were too busy dreaming about your teacher’s manboobz.

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          20. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            I was idly curious where you were going with your weird homophobia about your own statements, but it’s pretty clear now that you just blindly pound the keyboard.

            Again, I’m deeply sorry I was wrong about your hero Hitler.

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          21. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            I’m not curious about where you are going, because we both know you are on a way street to Oldmanboobzville.

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          22. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            You should start practising how to kowtow while saying “Here are my guns President Clinton please don’t FEMA camp me” right now and avoid the rush. Get in on the grovelling ground floor, as it were.

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          23. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            The only person grovelling is you, to old manboobz.

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          24. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            I’m sure you felt that was very cutting before you posted it. Yet another illustration of how racism rots … wel,, whatever it is you have that serves in place of a mind.

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          25. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            I’m sure you felt a pair of old manboobz, many times.

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          26. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Do you think that your idiotic homophobia – about your own weird statement, no less, but then psychologists have determined that 100% of homophobia is actually projection* – is actually achieving anything other than making me giggle at your inadequacy even harder? just curious.

            * which means you’re a self-hating homosexual, obviously.

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          27. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            I’m not making fun of you for being a gay, I’m making fun of you for loving old manboobz.

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          28. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            Uh huh. Yet another white supremacist who’s also a repressed homosexual. You can’t even be original.

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          29. Otto Greif February 15, 2016

            Not surprising you love old black manboobz.

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          30. Mr Corrections February 15, 2016

            OK sorry Adolph I mean Adolf

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          31. dpaano March 21, 2016

            Give it up, Otto…..we’re tired of your stupid responses. Is that ALL you have to say? Apparently not! You seem to have a one-track mind.

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  7. Böcker February 15, 2016

    Code pink? What a load of BS! I don’t like T rump but he did tell the truth about GWB, he did invade Iraq on a lie and blew up the Middle East.

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    1. Kenji February 17, 2016

      That was one of the central points of this piece.

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  8. dpaano February 15, 2016

    Finally…..Trump did something amazing! He told the truth, and it was a truth the Republicans did not want to hear or be known!!! The truth is finally out there, it WAS Bush’s administration that started the saber rattling in the middle east and has caused all the uprising in these countries!!! He, Cheney, Rove, and the other of his cohorts ALL should be tried for war crimes!!!

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    1. COMALite J February 15, 2016

      If you want the real culprits, research the Project for a New American Century. ← (That link goes to one of the last working Internet Wayback Machine archives, on September 11, 2013. The domain name finally expired in October of 2013 and was never renewed.) Yes, Macro¹ Robotio’s campaign slogan.

      Once there, click on “Sᴛᴀᴛᴇᴍᴇɴᴛ ᴏғ Pʀɪɴᴄɪᴘʟᴇs” in the upper right corner, just under the masthead. There you’ll see an open letter that they wrote to then-President Bill Clinton. Note the date. Scroll down and read the list of signatory members. Recognize anyone?

      Also go to “Aʙᴏᴜᴛ PNAC” and read the list of officers. Recognize anyone? Note that Bill Kristol, now a FOX News pundit, is the man who founded this organization, and the domain name was registered in his name, personally and individually,.

      And now, the kicker: over on the left, click “Pᴜʙʟɪᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴs / Rᴇᴘᴏʀᴛs” and then, from the list displayed, click the .PDF link at the bottom entitled Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for the New Century. It’s 90 pages, but with lots of empty space. Read it, but first look at the cover page, and the date thereon: “September, 200u.” Months before Bush was even elected, let alone inaugurated (without which they could never have tried to achieve their goals) and a full year before the September 11, 2001 terror attacks which were our alleged justification for the War on Terror, of which the 2003 Iraq Invasion was part and parcel.

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      ¹ Spelling intentional.

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  9. opinioned1 February 16, 2016

    Thank you GOP/bags for creating the environment that allowed the poltroon Trump to exist. If not for your racist,bigoted, misspelled signs America`s would have never been prepared for such a moron. Take a bow fools..

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  10. grandpamike1 February 17, 2016

    Hey, now that you’ve taken over any coherent conversation in this topic, why don’t you children just STFU ?

    Otto & Mr Corrections

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  11. Joseph Corlett February 17, 2016

    When you don’t study and apply the results of the Romney autopsy, you get Donald Trump. And you deserve him.

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  12. Neo-Conatopianist February 22, 2016

    The party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and their constant beatitudes of what constitutes a true “Conservative” is to blame for the current prepubescent state of the GOP. What the GOP needs is a definition on paper akin to Newt’s Contract On America as to what policy ideas makes a true “Conservative.” I believe if they put their ideas on paper they will have the same fate of the Whigs and No Nothings.Viva Trump!

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  13. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 4, 2016

    Although the Bush’s were major contributors to the political mayhem that has its epicenter in today’s debate debacles, and is reflected in numerous policies and straight-jacket thinking that is prevalent among a huge segment of society, the damage can be traced back to the inception of the great Southern Strategy—a divisive tactic that produced a growth spurt of nihilism and bigotry in the Wingnut Party and emboldened the KKK to step out of the dark shadows, get some fresh air and sunshine, and gain respectability in this conceited political/cultural coterie.

    But we can go back even further to Father Coughlin, the so-called “Radio Priest” who is considered the progenitor of Hate Radio—a media format that has flourished since the 80’s and experienced a huge growth spurt in 2008.

    The “cancer” of Conservatism gained ideological and quasi-scholarly buttressing by the former Bill Buckley Jr who made being aloof, haughty, and hoity-toity fashionable and chic qualities to be admired and to aspire to by those who want to gain admission into the “Club of Exclusivity and American Exceptionalism” — (“People of Color” of either gender are allowed admission but must use the back entrance and service elevators. A certain former resident of Detroit with proper attire and a smile will greet you).

    This then gives a firmer yet incomplete introduction to the genesis, and tortured path of today’s madness, as so glaringly placed front and center by the Extremists of our era in America. Currently, the legislative branch shows the most virulent set-backs caused by the onslaught of this logic-resistant form of governance and thinking.

    The Donald has played a necessary and important role in bringing to light, for the whole world to examine up close, the necrosis of American Partisan Politics.

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  14. dpaano March 21, 2016

    There’s two things that Democrats need to do to win over Trump….first of all, Democrats need to get out and vote in the upcoming election!!! Secondly, Democratic senators, congressmen/women, etc., need to stand up and start showing their support for either Bernie or Hillary and also show their support for our current president. They do NOT need to sit on their rear ends doing nothing, especially those who are running against Republicans who are up for re-election in the Senate and the House. They can’t sit back and let the Republican candidates win, even if they ARE in Republican counties. Unfortunately, most Democrats do is just sit there and do nothing to support their candidates OR their president, and that doesn’t bode well in this next election! We need to stand up and proclaim our victories this past 7+ years and not let the Republicans play them down. People are angry….understandable….but they are angry at the wrong thing. They are angry due to the problems with the House and the Senate blocking everything good that this president has tried to do for the American people…..why in heck would they vote the same people BACK into the Senate and the House. Because, if Hillary or Bernie wins….and we don’t take back the House and the Senate….the same thing is going to continue and nothing will get done again for 4 years! And, people are going to get angrier….especially when they see what a Republican president like Trump would do to this country should he be elected!!! It won’t be pretty!

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    1. James Smith April 1, 2016

      Firstly, first things first… http://worldnewsdailyreport.co… is this article true?

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  15. James Smith April 1, 2016

    Our entire American country has been communist infiltrated by 545 communist politicians. They have wrecked our country but we have wrecked their information war… and that’s a verifiable fact. Learn the truth at; the one stop shop for the truth.

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