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5 Ways Democratic Presidents Kick Republican Butt

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5 Ways Democratic Presidents Kick Republican Butt

President Obama

At the 2012 Democratic National Convention, Bill Clinton had some good news for his fellow Democrats.

“You see, we believe that ‘we’re all in this together’ is a far better philosophy than ‘you’re on your own.’ It is. So who’s right?” he asked the crowd. “Well, since 1961, for 52 years now, the Republicans have held the White House 28 years, the Democrats, 24. In those 52 years, our private economy has produced 66 million private sector jobs.

“So what’s the job score? Republicans, 24 million; Democrats, 42 [million],” said Clinton, to a roar of cheers and applause.

Since September of 2012, more than 6.5 million more new jobs have been created, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. And in 2014, we had the best year of job creation this century –which meant more net jobs had been created under President Obama in 6 years than in 12 years of two president Bushes.

Still, Democrats apparently need to be reminded that their policies work better.

“We’ve seen 11 million jobs created, best job growth since the ’90s, best job growth in manufacturing since the ’90s; steepest drop in the unemployment rate in 30 years; deficit cut by two-thirds; over 10 million people with health insurance that didn’t have it before,” President Obama reminded Democrats at the House Democratic Issues Conference in January. He summed up the successes: “There is no economic metric by which we are not better off than when I took office.”

He credited these steady improvements to what he has been calling “middle-class economics.” Noting that liberal economic policies work, he added, “That’s been the history of this country.”

But who is going to trust Democratic presidents when it comes to assessing the success of Democratic presidents?

Sean McElwee, a research associate at Demos, has looked at the studies that have compared the records of recent presidents from both parties and summed up some of the findings in a recent post for Al Jazeera America. And what he’s found echoes the message Clinton and Obama gave to their fellow Democrats.

Here are five ways Democrats in the White House make America better.

1. Everyone does better under Democrats.
No matter who you are — white, black, Asian, Latino, rich, poor — you do better under Democrats, according to political scientists Zoltan Hajnal and Jeremy Horowitz. Wages grow more and poverty goes down more, along with the unemployment rate. Research from Princeton’s Larry Bartles finds that the gains for poorer Americans are specifically related to Democratic policies that favor the working class.

McElwee notes that while conservatives argue their policies encourage growth, they’re actually just shifting money to those who already have it:

“The evidence demonstrates that, on the contrary, Democrats make the pie bigger for everyone, while Republicans redistribute income toward the rich and whites,” he writes, citing a study by political scientist Nathan Kelly. When Republicans argue for lower taxes and regulation, all they are advocating is spreading more wealth to the wealthy, at the expense of the larger economy. They are the true redistributionists — in a regressive direction.

2. Minorities — especially — prosper when a Democrat is in the White House.
Republicans need to win a larger share of the minority vote in order to win the presidency but McElwee says they’ll only succeed “if voters remain unaware of their actual record.”

In their study “Racial Winners and Losers in American Party Politics,” Hajnal and Horowitz came to a straightforward conclusion. “Put simply: However measured, blacks made consistent gains under Democratic presidents and suffered regular losses under Republicans,” the authors found — and based on more limited data, those findings are also true for Latinos and Asians.

When a Democratic president has to deal with a Republican-dominated Congress, the benefits for blacks — and likely other minority groups — decrease.

3. Democrats are more fiscally responsible than Republicans.
The only way to shrink the deficit is to grow the economy — and because Democratic presidents are better at that, they’re also better at balancing the budget.

“In a study published last July, Princeton economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson found that from 1947 to 2013, gross domestic product, employment, corporate profits and productivity grew faster under Democrats than Republicans,” McElwee writes. “The authors also noted that unemployment and deficits shrank and the economy climbed out of recession in less time under Democrats.”

McElwee also credits Democratic policies with creating superior “market conditioning.” Because Democrats prosecute wage theft, support unions, encourage reproductive rights, and provide a safety net that encourages entrepreneurship, incomes rise. The trickle-up policies pursued by the right, however, dampen the economy and hurt growth.

And that’s not a Democratic president saying that. It’s Standard & Poor’s Financial Services and the S&P stock index.

4. Democrats get “lucky.”
This is where you scream, “Correlation doesn’t equal causation.” Sure, we have lots of data that show everyone does better when a Republican isn’t in the White House, but how do we know the economy isn’t improving just at the mere wish that Reagan will be reincarnated?

Blinder and Watson are careful to note that about “half these benefits [are owed] to productivity shocks, consumer expectations, and favorable economic conditions.” They don’t want to fully credit Democrats, despite the evidence that a shift to conservative policies that “immiserate the population” have led to a 40-year slump for workers.

The middle class is still suffering, especially compared to the halcyon days of the mid-20th century, when workers’ share of income was actually growing faster than the share of the super rich. And for this reason, liberals tend not to want to trumpet their own successes, knowing there are many miles to go before we begin to reverse the damage done to the economy by right-wing policies.

But this modesty could cost Democrats the White House.

“If liberals are those who can marshal an impressive amount of evidence for their case and refuse to deploy it, then Alan Blinder and Mark Watson are most certainly liberals,” McElwee told me.

He notes that Republicans’ belligerent foreign policy and lack of support for education are variables that need to be factored in. “Consumer confidence is stronger under Democrats, this makes sense, as a recent cross-national study indicates that left-leaning parties are very good for firm growth [Blinder and Watson find that the stock market grows faster under Democrats]. There are therefore plausible reasons to believe that what Blinder and Watson consider ‘random’ [variables] are not [random].”

5. The Republican Party is a “patronage machine” for whites and the 1 percent.
In the aftermath of the civil rights movement, conservatives recognized that a “color-blind” society required more subtle forms of worrying about the plight of the white majority. The reborn far right had been trounced under Barry Goldwater’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act. But Richard Nixon’s more subtle “Southern Strategy” pulled in many former Democrats who had supported segregation. And the movement became increasingly conservative throughout the 70s, as big business united with religious right-wingers, in pursuit of their shared goals of cutting taxes and taking over the Supreme Court.

Despite anti-“taker” rhetoric, Republicans love government benefits. Their favored benefits — tax breaks for the wealthy, the mortgage interest tax deduction, and subsidies to help rich people buy health insurance — just happen to benefit whites disproportionately.

And even though white people do better under Democratic presidents, McElwee suggests they may prefer Republican policies due to a phenomenon known as “last-place aversion.”

“Among white voters, racial bias is strongly correlated with lower support of redistributive programs,” McElwee writes. “For example, research shows that opposition to welfare is driven by racial anger. Approximately half of the difference between social spending in the U.S. and Europe can be explained by racial animosity.”

Racial bias may explain why so many Americans are willing to vote against their own interests.

Regardless, Democrats have failed to make the case to the white and rural voters who show up in midterm elections that they don’t benefit by voting Republican. Policies such as paid sick leave, free community college, and universal pre-K help make these contrasts more vivid. But the Democrats must start making the case now — as we face an election that will determine the makeup of the Supreme Court for a generation — that Democrats have proven they’re consistently, historically, reliably better for America.

Photo: President Obama waves from Air Force One as he leaves Miami after a town hall meeting on immigration at Florida International University in Hialeah, FL, on Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2015. (Pool photo by Pedro Portal/Miami Herald/TNS)



  1. MrBeale March 2, 2015

    Go Democrats!

  2. Budjob March 2, 2015

    The worst Democrat you can have representing the working man and woman,is much better than the best Republican offer up!!! Scott Walker is living proof of that!!!!

  3. Dominick Vila March 2, 2015

    There is no question that Democratic policies and leadership have been more effective than those of their counterparts, and the record confirms that reality. Unfortunately, what influences voter’s decisions is not the record, but perceptions, and that’s where the GOP has the upper hand. They have managed to convince millions of Americans that we were better off when Republicans were in control of the White House and Congress, that the U.S. is going in the wrong direction, that Democrats are the tax and spend party, and that something evil, called socialism, is looming on the horizon ready to destroy America as we know it. The lack of substance in their message, their record, and lack of vision are irrelevant to those who form opinions based on the cutest retort, on grandiose statements such as “Mr. Gorbachev, please tear down that wall”, or “You are either with us, or you are against us”, or Nixon’s assertion that borrowing at low interest is good for the USA. Even the dichotomy of their actions, such as insistence on deportation, while passing legislation that protects employers who hire illegal immigrants from prosecution, fall on deaf ears.
    The only reason the GOP remains a viable alternative, against all odds, is because they have controlled the national discourse since the 1980s with absolute impunity.

    1. mike March 2, 2015

      GOP controls the national discourse! Another load in your pants Dom, 95% of all media outlets are left leaning. Practically all print, networks and cable are control by the progressives.
      Perfect example is Giulani’s unnecessary remake about Obama. The media was all over Giulani for his remarks but the network news, NBC 14 minutes, CBS gave 4 minutes, ABC gave 3 minutes, and Print basically ignored the Clinton foundation taking foreign govt. money and Ethic questions. ABC gave it all of 32 seconds, NBC and ABC totally ignored it even though the WP had it on the front page.
      So save me the statement that GOP controls the discourse. The Mainstream Media is all Democrat and well to the left, but the GOP controls the discourse. What a load of you know what.
      it is the democrats that if they had their way would have more taxes, more spending and more deficits. But more importantly would take every possible bit of freedom and liberty away from all Americans.

      1. Dominick Vila March 2, 2015

        The reason our media did not pay too much attention to the latest “scandal” regarding foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation, is because most charitable institutions get both domestic and foreign contributions to function. Especially those that perform charitable work overseas, such as Clinton’s help after the hurricane that devastated Haiti. Personally, I think the media should resurrect Pat Robertson’s reference about heathens to highlight the difference between institution that care about fellow human beings and the religious zealots whose only contribution to humanity is to demonize victims and enrich themselves.

        1. mike March 2, 2015

          Sorry Dom, nice try. Yes, Clinton Foundation has done some good.
          The Clinton have a history of going to the edge of ethic violations and it seems it continues. The foundation still took money from Foreign Govts. even while having an agreement with Obama Administration they wouldn’t.
          I know you can explain how before the “donation” Algeria lobbyists had contact with the State Department just a hand full of times but once the donation/bribe was paid it had 12 meetings within a year. I know you can explain the drop off after those 12 meetings. It is all about perception. Even the left is shaking their heads. Algeria could have given it to any charitable foundation other than Hillary’s.
          The foundation has been about as transparent as the Obama administration and we know how Obama’s lack of transparency is going. The Clinton’s had over 8 million dollars worth of travel expenses in 2013-IRS 990. The ulterior motive is to keep the donor machine going for 2016.
          I noticed you wouldn’t deny the fact the Mainstream Media and Networks are to the left in their coverage. They have protected Obama and the left for years, which won’t change in 2016. The Media was all in for Obama 2008/2012 and have protected him and their investment.

          1. Dominick Vila March 2, 2015

            There is no evidence whatsoever suggesting that Hillary Clinton benefited from the donations given to the Clinton Foundation, ran by her husband and daughter, while she was Secretary of State, or that such donations, including the half million dollar donation given by Algeria to help the humanitarian efforts carried out by the Clinton Foundation in the aftermath of the hurricane that devastated Haiti, influenced her stewardship as Secretary of State. The donations, and related expenditures were listed in the Clinton Foundation website for all to read. The admission of an ethics lapse acknowledge by the Foundation involves the fact that it would have been better to formally inform the State Department of the Algerian donation to avoid misinterpretations.
            This is just the latest example of smoke and mirrors politics used by the GOP to deflect attention from their record, from the pathetic field of candidates seeking the GOP nomination, and an attempt to torpedo the candidacy of a Democrat that they know they cannot defeat using conventional means.

          2. mike March 2, 2015

            Talk about smoke and mirrors, your post takes the cake.
            I never said she benefited but what I did say it has the appearance of buying access and the look of impropriety, questionable acts that go all the way back to Arkansas.
            The 12 visits documented by the WP is an example. Contact with SD leading up to the donation were few and far between but after the donation 12 visits.
            You know darn well this is a way to gain potential favor with the Clintons out side of the political limits. Money talks and the Clinton’s love money.
            Keep that dream going about Hillary and the Presidency, we have a long way to go and she is not a good campaigner.

          3. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            The whole lot of the DC politicians are corrupt, ALL of them, including Hillary “what difference does it make now” Clinton.

          4. mike March 3, 2015

            I never said she benefited directly.
            The perception of access is the problem.
            Now we find that she used a personal email when she was Secretary of State, raises more questions and possible violations of Fed. Regulations. Clinton turned over what she wanted released to the NARA. What is lacking are those sent to Foreign Govts. WSJ
            We went through this with Bush 2007-09 on private emails and you would have thought Clinton would have gotten the message when she took office. She never set up a govt. email showing a total disregard of transparency requirements. Where was the WH and senior officials emailing Hillary on her private account???


            You can try and justify the Clinton’s conduct but there is a pattern of deception that goes to the character of this possible Presidential candidate.

  4. chisolm March 2, 2015

    Apparently you missed the $18 trillion dollar debt, much of it accumulated under President Obama, more people on food stamps than ever, more people in poverty, long term unemployment for record numbers of people, and the list goes on and on. Socialism works great until you run out of other people’s money to spend as Margaret Thatcher reminded us. Democrats solution to every perceived problem is to spend more. As for the civil rights issue you need to brush up on history and not the edition children are taught today.

    1. drdroad March 2, 2015

      I notice Republicans/Conservatives only talk about the debt when there is a Democratic President. I never heard Conservatives holler at President Bush when he took Clinton’s yearly Surplus and turned it into big yearly Deficits. Every President since Kennedy has contributed to the Deficit.

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Maybe you should learn the difference between deficit and the Federal debt. The US has had a debt since WWI. Obama, has managed to increase the Federal debt more in 6 years than any President in history. It was under 10 trillion when he took office, now over 18 trillion. Do your homework .

  5. Godzilla March 2, 2015

    The Democrats do, in fact, do some things better than anybody, well, almost anybody. Here’s a better list.
    1. LIE
    2. Break the Law
    3. Commit Treason
    4. LIE
    5. Write ridiculously delusional propaganda brainwashing bullshit for the mindless sheople who fall for it

    1. jamesowens March 2, 2015

      where b he epublcan arebeter at
      #1 broadcasting misinformation
      #2 brainwashing the ueducated
      #3 selling out the American people
      #4 turning America into an oligarchy
      #5 redistributing the wealth to themselves

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        #1 the media is mostly Left Wing= LIE
        #2 the education system is run by the Left Wing=LIE
        #3 Clinton signed NAFTA=LIE
        #4 The progressives are turning this place into a fascist state= LIE
        #5 Redistribution is a Left Wing specialty, to their donors as well= LIE
        LIE, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES. See you proved my point, thank you very much, have a great day!

        1. jamesowens March 2, 2015

          only thing proven is you are either to well indoctrinated or so stupid you cant see when you are being fed the bs

          1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            Typical Liberal loser, can’t argue the points in front of you, so just call names. Hence the term “mindless sheople”

          2. jamesowens March 2, 2015

            lol you are the one “trying’ to make an arguement against the article
            as per rules of debate you should make a meaningful statement NOT your highly opinionated lies that DONOT pertain t o the article and then i rebut which i did in the same style and format as you. to call it pointless and mindless reflects to you as you chose the style

          3. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            The article is bullshit and racist.

          4. jamesowens March 2, 2015

            lol that may be the only thing you have said that makes sense even if opinionated and untrue.

    2. tntlimited March 2, 2015

      Godzilla: The only problem with the things you described…are that they are the GOP’s founding principles…lies, treason, and unlawfulness are the stepping stones that lead the unwise into supporting the GOP! Principle example is the recent near destruction of the US economy by George Bush and Dickless Cheney…caused by their incessant lies and attack on Iraq. This folly is still being paid for by the United States…and the rest of the world!!! Godzilla, you need to crawl back under the rock that spawned an ignorant propagandist such as yourself!

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        If Obama was Pinnochio, he wouldn’t fit his nose on Air Force One.

    3. WakeUpAmerica March 3, 2015

      Like the LIE we were told about Iraq? Or the 900 plus LIES told by the Bush Administration about Iraq? Or the LIES that tax cuts for the “job creators” would, you know, create jobs? Or when Reagan LIED about the Iran-Contra matter? Or that he broke the law and committed treason by selling arms and giving money to terrorists? Or the treason when the House gop held the Debt Ceiling hostage in August 2011, thereby having our credit rating lowered for the first time ever? (And repubs who were also in office during W voted to increase it 7 times). Or the treason committed by boehner by inviting netanyahu to undermine a multi country endeavor to keep Iran from making nukes for war? (If you don’t have a problem with this, what if pelosi invited a head of state during W’s time in office to lecture Congress on how bad our involvement in Iraq was? Would you be ok with that? ). Also, Google a variation of “august 6, 2001 presidential daily briefing” and tell me you’d be ok with that if it was Obama. If gop policies are so good, why do most gop-led states so lousy in terms of health, education, yet “lead” the country in levels of poverty ? Why is it that most gop-led states receive more in federal dollars than they pay into the system? Talk about moochers and takers!

      As for brainwashing, consumers of fox and other right wing noise machine entities are the poster children for willful ignorance.

  6. Pete Perez March 2, 2015

    Racial bias may explain why so many Americans are willing to vote against their own interests. BS, It all boils down to the attack on the 2nd amendment.

    1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

      The race card is BS and always has been. People vote mostly with their wallets. The Democrats will get their butt’s kicked again in 2016.

    2. whodatbob March 2, 2015

      Do not forget abortion.

      1. Independent1 March 2, 2015

        Oh! You mean the totally misguided push to ban abortions which actually ends up with more abortions because there’s really no one to talk them out of having them and not only that, but more women start dying during botched abortions because they resort to getting quacks to perform them – sometimes with a coat hanger????

  7. disqus_QR7ejvoSVU March 2, 2015

    The Tea Party, the Faux News followers, the GOP, and the
    Heritage Foundation have nothing to worry about — President Obama until 2016
    and President Hillary 2016-2024. By 2024 the Republican Party will cease to

    1. mike March 2, 2015

      Keep dreaming.
      I will take all the young faces of the Republican Party over an old aged feminist, who is a poor campaigner and has no accomplishments to show she deserves to be president other than being a women and married to a womanizer. American woman are far from a monolithic group and many woman recognize she is an “enabler”, for one simple reason, Power.
      So you have Hillary, Webb, Warren, not much of a field. If I was a democrat I would be wondering why!!!
      I wouldn’t count your chickens before they hatch.

  8. Godzilla March 2, 2015

    “What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Obama, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

    “This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.


    1. Jeff Bottaro March 2, 2015

      This is one of the most insightful things I have ever read. I would love to meet the author.

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        I like history, always have. If you do as well, look up Kitty Werthmann. She grew up in Austria when Hitler was coming to power. Amazing first hand view, also on you tube as she speaks quite well.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 3, 2015

          You only love history when it supports your bully BS. Who the hell are you trying to fool? History didn’t begin in TX. It began on the East Coast of the Colonies. Hate that don’t you sucker?

    2. Eleanore Whitaker March 2, 2015

      The whole process of GOP partisanship fails because it represents Business not people. These are men and women elected to work for their constituents. They only recognize business as their major prioirty.

      Year after year, the House Republicans vote higher and higher amounts to industries who flush money to their political campaigns. Since when does Big Oil need an annual $15 billion plus every year?

      The reality is that the GOP strains the guts out of every working American for no reason other than to pour money into businesses. This would not normally be a problem if there actually EVER was trickle down or any reciprocity from business owners. They do not hire Americans on the one hand and hold the other hand out for Americans to pay higher and higher taxes, knowing the GOP will flush it into their corrupt businesses.

      Big Insurance today is THE worst fraud going. They demand higher and higher premiums for life, auto, health, house, dental and flood insurance. Comes time to pay a claim and they act like you are asking for them to hand over their own personal wallets. What the hell do we pay for then? Investments these businesses use OUR money to invest in?

      The reason Democratic presidents are far more successful is because they clearly recogize “balance” between people, business and tax revenue use.

      All the GOP today cares about is squeezing blood from turnips and handing it to their corporate vampires.

      Businesses do not have a RIGHT to our tax dollars. If the government would pay its bills first and then decide which businesses are worthy of our tax dollars, perhaps, that debt the GOP bitches about would stop growing.

      But, the GOP incessantly squeezes money from taxpayers to keep money flowing to businesses instead of paying our bills.

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Why do you post? Not one person with a brain will listen to a ranting Communist leach. Then again, you do have an audience here, so feel free to continue, BWAHAHAHA!

        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 3, 2015

          To answer your moronic question, I post because it is MY duty as an American citizen to put a stop to the kind of BS men like you try to pull on the rest of society. Your posts get more bashes and mine do not. Your posts are all lies and bias. Mine are provable in a court of law.

          I intend to continue while I hope you eat your heart out. You need to be reminded that men like you who try to force others to your mentally insane way of thinking are the real COMMUNISTS. After all, a regime like yours is the same as what the Communists pulled off in Russia isn’t it?

          How about grow the hell up and stop trying to bully everyone around you? Who died and left you God Almighty?

          You make NO decisions for anyone but yourself. Try again Commie. All village idiots like you laugh your loser lives away…but you get no where with Americans like me.

      2. Godzilla March 3, 2015

        You are nothing short of an authoritarian tyrant. No wonder your husband dumbed you. I can no longer disrespect the Communist’s any longer by adding you to the bunch. Your a Swastika arm band wearing Nazi. You should shave your head and join the skinheads, you would fit right in.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 3, 2015

          And you prove you are a Stars and Bars hick who can’t stand the truth Mr. Mutton Chops. Time to step out of preCivil War era. Everything you post judges others. But, you’ll be the first man to call himself a Christian, right? Judge not liar boy, lest we judge you more harshly.

          Men like always like to go extremist when you can’t win an argument with intelligence, facts and truth. Mostly because all of you are corrupt little liars who want to push your perversions on the rest of us. Not going to happen. There will be a woman president and your testicles will just have to stay tied in knots.

          But…do tell..when did you get that holier-than-thou Mr. Christian “religion” that makes you judge and jury? Tell us what skeletons you had in your closet in your perverted youth that you know feel you must convert others to your self-righteous thinking? We know you were no angel..out with it.

    3. charleo1 March 2, 2015

      “What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security.”

      Well, you left out, “mushroom cloud,” “slam dunk,” and “yellow cake from
      Niger.” But I don’t recall as Obama having anything to do with any of that.

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Maybe you should read the whole article, it’s not about Obama, I changed the name to get people to read something besides Left Wing propaganda.

        1. charleo1 March 2, 2015

          Well, let me go find my tin hat, and I’ll give it a try. But you did say Obama, right? So if it’s code or something.

          1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            If putting your tin hat on helps to get a historical education, please do so.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker March 3, 2015

            Better a tin hat than a tin brain. You really think you are the Master of the Universe? Get over yourself. You’re nothing more than a right wing bully who when he is confronted with truths and facts we can prove, has balls that shrink down to raisins. Go change your Depends.

          3. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            Charleo, let me be clear on one thing. I don’t like anybody in the Federal government political cartel, none of them. It’s not a Left/Right thing to me. If you would like to ask any question of me, feel free.

      2. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Bummer when you don’t get the whole story, but claim to KNOW what your talking about, isn’t it?

        1. charleo1 March 2, 2015


  9. paulyz March 2, 2015

    If anyone on here believes this, especially item #3, after experiencing reality for the last 6 years, then they are completely beyond reasonable judgement. Democrats like Clinton run these talking points out knowing that just by stating it, it is factual. You must have enough intelligence to clearly see our National Debt more than doubling in just 6 years, the constant raising of the debt ceiling, years of steady unemployment, doubling of people on food-stamps, & increased poverty. To state the budget is balanced under Obama when he most years didn’t even have the required budget is completely false. Several times the Republican Party tried to pass a balanced-budget Amendment, only to be Opposed by Obama & the Democrats. Taxes have risen under Obama and also the taking of $716 Billion from Medicare, plus another $500 Billion in “new” taxes for Obamacare, while doing nothing for the long-term solvency of S.S. or Medicare.

    1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

      Liberal Progressives are delusional sheople with not a lick of brains among them.

      1. WakeUpAmerica March 3, 2015

        Project much?

    2. charleo1 March 2, 2015

      Please allow me to explain, these mysterious economic happenings. First, we had a severe recession, That’s where these funny things happen. Like unemployment. Deficits due to unemployment. More poverty, and more people qualifing for assistance. So that’s the way it works. I’ve been through several recession, and they all look the same. Budgets are never balanced in recessions. And when the economy sags, all Presidents since Roosevelt, have spent generously, and run up deficits in response to them. And both Parties have all previously understood, and supported this. Except for the Republican Party, this time. They supported the bank bailout, and backed up their losses. Then immediately started screaming about the deficits only after they lost the election. True or crap? Then they continued to scream about the stimulus money. Even though 1/3 was tax relief, and 1/3 went into State coffers. When before have Republicans ever been against tax relief, or Federal monies going to the States, block grant style, with no restrictions on how it was to be spent? That would be never, until these Republicans. President Obama has produced a budget each year. It’s has been Congress that has failed to pass a budget, and present it to the President. He can’t sign that which doesn’t exist. Now, when Congress has produced a budget, passed it, and sent it to his desk, Obama has signed it, every time. Social Security is solvent for 60 years. Medicare is important, and when President Obama took office, the program was 6 years from insolvency. Due to changes in the overall healthcare system, and savings realized by eliminating the expensive Medicare Advantage Plans, that insolvency date has been pushed back 7 years, without additional funding. Or, as Republicans refer to additional funding of anything, except the military, billion dollar bailouts for Wall Street, subsidies for oil companies, and budget busting tax breaks for the rich. “Freedom crushing debt, place upon the backs of our children!”

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Problem!!!!! There hasn’t been a budget since Obama became President. It’s all Omnibus and continuing resolutions, NOT ONE SINGLE budget. The low deficit numbers are due to deals HE had to make to raise the debt ceiling. However, both parties are equally guilty of playing the same game. I wouldn’t expect to EVER se an actual “annual budget” ever being passed again. They (all of them) can spend more without a budget. I posted a link today on how this has been done in the past, try reading it.

        1. charleo1 March 2, 2015

          Well first, to pass a budget they need to agree don’t they? And it ain’t the Democrats that went off to Bircher Land, now was it? The truth be told, there’s a evil wing blowing across the political landscape. that’s separating the people from their Gov. And it’s called big money. They’re slaves to it now. I don’t have it, and I imagine you don’t either. So, who are they listening to? Who are they accountable to, at the end of the day? That’s what’s at the core of all we see, much of what we can agree on has gone off the rails. In my opinion, can be linked directly to bought, and paid for government.

          1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

            There are many things we agree on. Look past the Left/Right paradigm.

  10. tdm3624 March 2, 2015

    You know if Democrats could just drop the gun issue, I could see myself voting Democrat.

    1. Allan Richardson March 3, 2015

      There is no gun issue. Liberals and conservatives both want guns to stay out of the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, and children. Liberals and conservatives (at least most conservatives I know) also want cars to be driven safely, insured for liability if the drivers have accidents, and traceable in order to investigate accidents and unsafe driving. Therefore, despite the fact that NO AMERICAN, as far as I know, does not believe we have a “right to travel freely,” no American, as far as I know, is opposed to (1) licensing drivers on the basis of skill, good judgement behind the wheel, and staying sober while driving, (2) registering vehicles so that those involved in accidents or crimes can be traced, and (3) requiring drivers to have liability insurance, and punishing those who drive without it.

      A gun is even more dangerous in the wrong hands than a car, since a gun’s ENTIRE PURPOSE is to kill or injure people when appropriate. Why shouldn’t gun owners be tested on safety knowledge and denied the right to use guns for a time when they use them carelessly or maliciously? Why shouldn’t guns (or better yet, when the technology permits it, AMMUNITION) be registered so that the legal owner can be contacted when they are used illegally? Why shouldn’t gun owners be required to have LIABILITY INSURANCE to possess a gun, to compensate victims if the owner, or anyone the owner allowed to take the gun, caused injury, death or property damage?

      And why should someone who legally owns a gun be allowed to sell or give it to ANYONE, who could be mentally unstable (sometimes “responsible” gun owners momentarily BECOME “irresponsible” due to emotional provocations), a criminal, or terrorist? Why should someone who has PUBLICLY threatened the life of another person be allowed to keep the means to take that life? Why should someone who has ALREADY been involved in a suspicious shooting, even if technically acquitted, and has threatened to shoot others several times, be allowed to keep a gun?

      The extreme attitude of the NRA lobbyists, who seek only to stoke fear of that “other” person out there in order to SELL MORE GUNS (at a time when fewer people WANT to own one, but those who do, want to own MORE) is like advocating no car registration, no insurance requirement, and no licensing or DUI laws.

      So maybe there is a gun issue after all. But surveys show that most VOTERS polled are in the middle, wanting REASONABLE regulations. There are NO American political leaders who want to ban guns COMPLETELY, or confiscate mass quantities of guns from the people, as the EXTREMISTS falsely claim. And only a small minority of voters (even a minority of GOP voters and NRA members) want NO REGULATION WHATSOEVER.

    2. Pete Perez March 3, 2015

      I totally agree.

  11. Whatmeworry March 2, 2015

    Hmmm no mention of $11T in new debt under

    1. Daniel Max Ketter March 2, 2015

      Speaking of race relations, did you know that organized labor has done more for race relations? God bless all of our trade unions and their families for their sacrifices.

  12. Whatmeworry March 2, 2015

    Hmmm its mention of $11T in new savings under 1 Dem president more than the previous 43 combined
    All of the centuries wars were started by Repub’s
    1 million babies murdered every year by Repub’s
    47% of the US population paying to taxes
    the worst race relations in 500 years

    Sorry Billy you have a leg to stand on

  13. Godzilla March 2, 2015

    This is how much prices have risen in the last year, under Democratic rule: (I know, you guys hate facts)

    Beef and veal +22.5%

    Ground beef +21.0%

    Steaks +14.9%

    Pork +7.4%

    Ham +11.5%

    Whole Chicken +6.1%

    Fresh Fish +3.5%

    Eggs +8.2%

    Cheese +7.8%

    Fresh Vegetables +4.3%

    Lettuce +12.2%

    Tomatoes +9.6%

    Coffee +6.7%

    Butter +19.5%

    Restaurant food +3.1%

    Housing +2.9%

    Hotels +7.6%

    Owners Equivalent Rent +2.6%

    Homeowners Insurance +5.6%

    Electricity +2.5%

    Water & Sewer +5.5%

    Home Repairs +4.4%

    Footwear +2.6%

    Car Insurance +5.0%

    Parking Fees & Tolls +2.3%

    Medicinal Drugs +4.2%

    Prescription Drugs +5.6%

    Hospital Services +4.3%

    Veterinarian Services +3.2%

    Sporting Events +3.6%

    Newspapers & Magazines +4.6%

    College Tuition +3.6%

    Educational Books & Supplies +6.5%

    Grade School & High School Tuition +4.0%

    Childcare & Nursery School +3.0%

    Postage +3.6%

    Cigarettes +2.5%

    Financial Services +5.7%

    Tax Return Prep +9.3%

    From BLS.gov

    1. Dar Dedar March 2, 2015

      Complete nonsense. Try again wingnut. Contrary to conservative predictions for about two decades, inflation is at 40 year lows, so there is no reason to “cook the books.” Note:
      “The Fed’s preferred inflation measure (core personal consumption expenditures) is running at 1.05 percent, the lowest level
      ever recorded, and the headline measure is running at 0.7 percent.”

      Inflation is at 40 year lows. “The average inflation
      rate during Bernanke’s tenure, at 2.3%, beats that of every Fed chair since

      January 3, 2014, 4:25 pm 32 Comments
      In Praise of Art Laffer
      No, really. Business Insider contacted him about his 2009 warning that soaring inflation and interest rates were just around the corner —
      and he not only admits that he was wrong, he admits that his error signified
      something wrong with his overall economic model:
      “Usually when you find the model this far off, you’ve probably got something wrong with the model, not that the world has changed,” he said. “Inflation does not appear to be monetary base driven,” he said.
      This is a remarkable act of intellectual honesty — remarkable because it happens so rarely.
      I do wonder exactly what model Laffer was using. As I pointed out again and again, basic IS-LM analysis said that even huge increases in the monetary base aren’t inflationary in a liquidity trap; and yes, I was making
      that prediction in advance. From where I sit, our models have worked just fine.
      But still, credit where it’s due — Laffer, unlike almost everyone else in the inflationista camp, has admitted both that he was wrong and that some rethinking is needed.”

      1. Godzilla March 2, 2015

        Dar Dar, Inflation numbers don’t include food or energy costs. If you had a fucking brain you would know this. The BLS is a government agency, that you should make an attempt to educate yourself with, that this info came out with. It’s not from some Left Wing brainwashing rag that your get your current education from. Facts suck when they don’t fit your pathetic Communist world view, tough. It’s the truth .

        1. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

          G: “Inflation numbers don’t include food or energy costs.”>>

          Yes grasshopper, they do. Get a clue. Inflation is a 40 year lows. We could use a bit more inflation.

          G: “It’s the truth.”>>

          No actually, what you posted is 100% poo. As was very easy to show. Maybe step out of the bubble once in a while.

          “The Inflation Obsession”
          “Much supposedly informed opinion has remained fixated on the supposed threat of rising prices despite being wrong again and
          again. If you spent the last five years watching CNBC, or reading the Wall Street Journal opinion pages, or for that matter listening to prominent conservative economists, you lived in a constant state of alarm over runaway inflation, which was coming any day now. It never did.”

          1. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            Getting your current education from Media Matters proves that you are an imbecile. The Government’s inflation rate excludes food and energy and has been that way for decades. NO, you do not want inflation, unless your wages keep up in kind. Only an idiot Keynesian like Krugman would call for higher inflation. You will get your wish as soon as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, if and when that ever happens. With the trillions of dollars pumped into the system to give a false sense of recovery soon to be introduced, let’s hope that hyperinflation can be avoided.

          2. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “You will get your wish as soon as…”>>

            Blah blah blah. Since you can’t get your present time facts right, I have zero confidence in your powers of prophecy.
            Poor conservatives, just don’t want to admit they have been totally, completely, utterly and incredibly wrong about inflation. And they have been for decades. Inflation is at 40 year lows wingnut, get a clue already. (Thanks Obama!)

            “The Fed’s preferred inflation measure (core personal consumption expenditures) is running at 1.05 percent, the lowest level
            ever recorded, and the headline measure is running at 0.7 percent.”

            Know nothing conservatives are largely fear based and fear driven, and their fear mongering about inflation and “bubble pops” haven’t
            materialized, other than your Bush train wreck of course. I did some excellent refinancing at 2.7% interest that will save me a couple hundred grand over the years. Thanks Obama).

            G: “Only an idiot Keynesian like Krugman would…”>>

            Yes, do let us know when you win a Nobel and the Clark award. Because that’s what idiots do right? Incidentally, not only is Krugman a genius economist, his track record also shows he is America’s most correct pundit:
            That’s kind of neat and makes him rather different that you in that regard. Cheerios.

          3. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            Core inflation represents the long run trend in the price level. In measuring long run inflation, transitory price changes should be excluded. One way of accomplishing this is by excluding items frequently subject to volatile prices, like food and energy.


          4. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            Poor simple dumb little uninformed conservative, bet on inflation, lost.

            Get informed:

            “Inflation is very, very low. Time to worry?”
            “…St. Louis Fed President James Bullard pointed to the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation — personal consumption expenditures, minus food and energy — which recently has shown that prices are up 1.3% over a year ago.
            “That’s pretty low,” Bullard said at a Levy Economics Institute event. “I’m getting concerned about that, and I think that gives the FOMC some room to maneuver on its monetary policy.”
            The Fed typically aims to keep inflation around 2% a year. Inflation at that level is considered healthy, coinciding with solid economic growth, a growing job market and gradually rising wages.
            “Economic history has shown that economies perform best with slightly higher levels of inflation, such as 2% to 3%,” said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist for the Economic Outlook Group. “Low and dormant inflation translates into a dormant economy.”

            Conservative don’t learn, because they don’t admit or learn from their mistakes. Which is rather ironic considering how much practice they have at being wrong.

          5. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            Oh, and simple person, healthcare inflation at historic lows too. Thanks Obama!
            “Even With Obamacare, Health Inflation Falls To Historic Lows”


            Bonus Obama awesome:
            14 Facts About The Obama Presidency That Most People Don’t Know
            1. We’ve now had 63 straight months of economic expansion.

            2. We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history.

            3. Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009
            to 5.9% and projected to reach 5.4% by summer of 2015.

            4. The stock market continues to set new records since President
            Obama has been in office.

            5. The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009.

            6. Under President Obama, spending has increased only 1.4% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.

            7. For 95% of American taxpayers, income taxes are lower now than just about any time in the previous 50 years.

            8. Our dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.

            9. At least 7 million more Americans now have health insurance than before.

            10. The Affordable Care Act has added years to the life of Medicare.

            11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.

            12. We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors and airmen in war zones than any time in over 10 years.

            13. There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda
            on US soil since Obama became president.

            14. We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before.


            Best president ever!

          6. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            If it’s on the internet, it must true, right DAR?

          7. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            You bring a water pistol to a gun fight, and then you forget to put water in it! Poor little conservative.

            “Health Care Spending Slows To Historically Low Rate
            For the first time in more than a decade, health care spending grew more slowly than the U.S. economy from 2010 to 2012, according to a new report by government auditors….
            The historic slowdown in the growth of health care spending since 2009 — the lowest rate since the federal government began tracking the data in 1960…”

          8. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “on the internet, it must true, right…?”>>

            This is the genetic fallacy, the conservative favorite when they have no response. Truth is independent of it’s source. It’s never a rebuttal to smear the source and attack the messenger. Respond to the data directly and avoid logical fallacies when making your points. You can learn
            about your fallacy here:

          9. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            1. Claiming “jobs created” from low points is a real life example of the broken window fallacy. Break two windows and then claim you created two windows when you replace them.

            2. The “non-farm” employment was on a steady trend, with small bumps due to recessions, until the housing and financial meltdown. The claims that the current Administration created “more jobs” than anyone else is based on starting at the low point of the Obama administration. FACT: The current employment has returned to about the historical trend in total numbers, but we have lost 8 years of this trend. Which is reflected by the “labor force participation rate”.


            Your Messiah isn’t doing anything special, AT ALL

          10. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “Claiming “jobs created” from low points is…”>>

            Smart conservatives know better than to talk about jobs. It never comes out good for them. Let’s review why:
            1) More private sector jobs were created in 2010 under Obama than under eight years of Bush.
            http://tinyurl.com/24smpkc And: http://tinyurl.com/4hq8dbt

            2) The US did not gain a single private sector job under Bush and had a net loss of 673,000 private-sector jobs during Bush’s term. http://tinyurl.com/4hq8dbt

            3) Your Bush has the worst job creation record since records began. http://tinyurl.com/9ylluu

            4) Private sector job creation under Obama in 2011 was larger than seven out of the eight years Bush was president. http://tinyurl.com/8xjbuc8

            5) As of June 2012, more jobs were created in three and half years under Obama, than under the entire twelve years of the three terms of father and son Bush. http://tinyurl.com/dtrrp
            And: http://www.eclectablog.com/2014/10/fun-fact-more-net-jobs-have-been-created-under-obama-than-both-bushes-combined.html

            6) Over the last 75 years, job creation has always been better under democratic administrations. The worst performing Democratic president beats every republican president. http://tinyurl.com/6cd9uo

            7) During Bush’s lost decade we lost 42,000 factories, an astonishing achievement and the worst job record *ever.* http://tinyurl.com/8u7wr3q

            8) Bush’s Great Recession lost as many jobs as the previous four recessions *combined.* That’s a really big deal. http://tinyurl.com/3zfyntq

            Poor wingnut conservatives, devoted to rooting for the nation to fail, but doggone it, it just keeps on thriving under Obama.

            “In just five years, Obama doubled the stock market, cut the unemployment rate in half, ended the Bush recession, stabilized the housing market, brought American manufacturing back, cut the uninsured rate by 30%… all while slashing the annual budget deficit Bush handed him by two-thirds.”

            Thanks Obama!

          11. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            Thank YOU! I just won a huge bet that you were a paid shill for Obama. You are so obvious it is ridiculous. Your an Obama whore, BWAHAHA! Thanks, the money comes in handy. Now go back to Media Matters and shill there. I hope your don’t have kids, I feel sorry for them. Your a propaganda whore. A paid shill. A better term, as was used in the past, a useful idiot.

          12. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            Unable to respond to any points with substance, we now just get foot-stamping and tantrum now from little godzilla. A pitiful display. But what else can he do? It’s not like he can refute my claims!

            G: “a bet that you were a paid shill…”>>

            Thanks for the fine compliment that my posts are so good I should be paid for them. And I certainly agree with your observation. I get that compliment about once a day. I suspect this never happens to you because of course your posts clearly aren’t worth anything to anyone. Just assertion stacking, wingnut talking points and fallacious logic.
            I correct conservative errors and lies like yours, as time allows, out of the goodness of my heart. I consider it a public service and it does provide much amusement. I find it really easy, or as you’ve noticed, I make it look easy.

            G: “Your an Obama whore, BWA…”>>

            That would be “you’re.”
            I do love me some Obama but really, who doesn’t? He truly is an awesome president:
            “Obama is the Greatest President in Modern Times”
            To bad you can’t actually respond to my points. Perhaps if you can attempt to raise your game a bit and scrape something of substance together I’ll make an example out of you. Again.

            G: “the money comes in handy.”>>

            Best to stick to assertions you can support with evidence. It’ll not only make your posts shorter but perhaps even worth reading. Unsupported claims are of no interest to anyone, certainly not me.
            Try to respond to points directly and with some substance. The above post clearly contains none of that, it’s just whining, whimpering and you rubbing your sore bottom. Never been smacked with the Big Truth Stick before? Now you have.

            G: “Your a propaganda whor…”>>

            “You’re.” And again, thanks for noting my rebuttals are so good I should be paid for them. I agree. However, I flatten conservative claims and tan conservative behinds like yours entirely for free. And as you have noticed, I’m rather good at it.
            Don’t sit down for a bit grasshopper, it’s gonna be sore down there.

            Cool: “Obama just tied Reagan in popularity”

          13. silas1898 March 4, 2015

            Epic troll-smashing!

          14. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “reflected by the “labor force participation rate”.”>>

            When poor wingnuts can’t address Obama’s awesome job record (and they never can), they burp up this LPR canard, just as they’ve managed to hear on their little talking head fox boxes. Here’s why that line crap doesn’t work:

            The labor force participation rate has been declining manufactoring since 1948: http://adamsewall.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/real-manufacturing-output-employment.png

            And, among men 16 years an older, it’s been declining since 1948. It’s called productivity and a wealthier population that can afford to retire earlier (they also don’t have to stay in a dead end job for health insurance), thanks Obama!

            Then: “Obama Outperforms Reagan On Jobs, Growth And Investing”
            “Labor participation is affected much less by short-term job creation, and much more by long-term demographic trends. As this chart from the BLS shows, as the Baby Boomers entered the workforce and societal acceptance of women working changed, labor participation grew.
            “Now that ‘Boomers’ are retiring we are seeing the percentage of those seeking employment decline. This has nothing to do with job availability, and everything to do with a highly predictable aging demographic.
            “What’s now clear is that the Obama administration policies have outperformed the Reagan administration policies for job creation and unemployment reduction. Even though Reagan had the benefit of a growing Boomer class to ignite economic growth, while Obama has been forced to deal with a retiring workforce developing special needs. During the eight years preceding Obama there was a net reduction in jobs in America. We now are rapidly moving toward higher, sustainable jobs growth.”

            Then “Consider this chart from the Fed: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS11324230

            In Jan 2009, the Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate for people 55 years and over was 40%. Last month it was 40%.

            In between, it went up. That’s because that’s the peak for the boomers. Now we will see a continued trend downward due to the aging boomer demographic.
            The Forbes article is correct. Add in the other factors (drop in spending under Obama, drop in public employees under Obama, a much worse recession handed to Obama) and you get better economic performance under Obama than we had under Reagan.”
            “Labor participation has declined” yes, that’s because the largest part of that decline was due to retirement , not “dropping out ” of the workforce:
            Shigeru Fujita (2014) ” On the Causes of Declines in the Labor Force Participation Rate”

            I share this knowing it will sail over your pointy head. Oh well. One does what one can.

          15. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “Getting your current education from Media Matters proves that…”>>

            Again with the genetic fallacy, the conservative favorite when they have no response. Truth is independent of it’s source. It’s never a rebuttal to smear the source and attack the messenger. Respond to the data
            directly and avoid logical fallacies when making your points. You can learn about your fallacy here:

            Incidentally, Media Matters is an *excellent* source.

          16. Godzilla March 3, 2015

            Media Matters is a Left Wing propaganda RAG that has you fully brainwashed.

            Here are a few numbers about all you little article you believe. Inflation is low, because it don’t count food or energy. It is also low because we are in a deflationary time in the whole world, try looking up the Baltic dry Index and learn something that means something.

            90+ million working age Americans out of work, the unemployment rate don’t count those who quit looking for work, your being lied too, which as naïve as you are, it worked.


            This is the Labor Force Participation Rate, which is now at 1978 levels. We are at a 40 year low in fulltime employment. These numbers are all at BLS.gov. Educate yourself with something other than propaganda and lies.

            One more note, you are obviously an economic illiterate. Healthcare spending is down, because nobody has the money to cover the huge out of pocket expenses that come with today’s high cost insurance plans. Hospitals are losing their butts and layoffs are looming this year. Doctors offices are closing at an alarming rate, they are just going on hospital staff, at least temporarily. Many doctors are not taking Medicare/Medicaid patients, due to the low reimbursement rates. Some are going “cash only”. You won’t be reading any of this on Media Matters, they won’t write anything that puts down your Messiah.

          17. Dar Dedar March 3, 2015

            G: “Media Matters is a Left Wing… [blah blah blah]…”>>

            Again with the genetic fallacy, the conservative standby when they’ve got nothing. Have the courage and competence to address the data rather than the cowardly and lazy method of smearing the source, attacking the messenger. Avoid logical fallacies when attempting to make your points. It’s really not too much to ask.

            G: “inflation is low, because…”>>

            Yes it is. It’s very low. We could use a bit more of it in fact. All clueless rightwing fearmongering notwithstanding. What else ya got? Because the inflation thing is garbage.

            G: “we are in a deflationary time in the whole world,”>>

            Indeed. Very little inflation all over. So get informed and stop passing along ridiculous, ignorant and uninformed BS on the topic.

            G: “90+ million working age Americans out of work,”>>

            That mindless bit of rightwing horseflop is beautifully unpacked in this one little poster. So easy a child could understand it. Do take a moment to read it. You’ll learn lots, that is if in fact you are capable of learning:

            Really, it wonderfully flattens your talking point, leaving nothing standing. Don’t you agree?

            G: “the unemployment rate don’t count those who quit looking for work,”>>

            And never has, so your point, has no point. Other than the one on the top of your head.

            1. The private sector has added 10.3 million jobs over 55 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. Today we learned that total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 248,000 in September, mainly reflecting a 236,000 increase in private employment. Private-sector job growth was revised up for July and August, so that over the past twelve months, private employment has risen by 2.6 million. So far this year, private employment has risen by nearly 2 million, on pace for the strongest year of private-sector job growth since 1998.

            2. The overall unemployment rate fell to 5.9 percent in September, the lowest since July 2008, and is down 1.3 percentage point over the last year. Notably, the 1.3 percentage point decline in the unemployment rate is nearly the largest drop in any one-year period since 1984 (behind only the 1.4 percentage point drop from June 2013 to June 2014). Of this drop, about 60 percent is due to declining long-term unemployment, even though the long-term unemployed represent about one-third of the jobless.”
            Chart: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzWuupNCIAEgLZW.jpg:large

            Keep the softballs coming. I’ve seen and smacked them all before. Conservatives don’t have much of a repertoire.

          18. RobertCHastings March 7, 2015

            And your source is what? Please enlighten us, oh grand master, enlightened brightness of the universe.

      2. Allan Richardson March 3, 2015

        When an economist admits having been WRONG in his/her past beliefs, it is news. When a POLITICIAN (or media pundit) does it, that is a MIRACLE! So the ONE legitimate economist whose prior collection of data “justifies” trickle-down ADMITS, in the light of NEW data, to having misinterpreted the old numbers, the politicians and pundits who support trickle-down have NO EMPIRICAL LEG to stand on. But they refuse to rethink their conclusions; they just DO NOT REPORT the change in the scientific data to their “constituents.” In other words, “Facts? WE don’t need no stinkin’ FACTS!”

    2. RobertCHastings March 7, 2015

      And your point is? As you SHOULD know, IF you are going to get into this kind of discussion, the rep. And Dem parties have very little to do with what things cost. I noticed you said nothing about the prices of gas, however. So, I must assume that, while groceries are costing more BECAUSE of DEMOCRATS, we can now AFFORD them because we can drive to the store CHEAPER, and got to work CHEAPER. Your argument is, at best, disingenuous, and apparently misinformed. Economists AND nonpartisan analysts agree that everyone does better when Democrats control the White House – employment rises (unemployment decreases), GDP rises (which means even the rich benefit more), not only is the pie for equitably distributed, the pie actually gets BIGGER. When George H W. Bush left the White House, the DOW was at 1,600; when Clinton left the WH, the DOW was at over 11,000; when W left the WH, the DOW was around 6,000 (1/3 of what it is now. Sort of blows your pretty little story out of the water, doesn’t it?

    3. Alison Cowan March 10, 2015

      A base rate of inflation of about 3% is healthy. It’s interesting that nearly all of your examples over this rate are food. All the crop failures and increasing feed costs have no impact on food prices, of course, and the fact that there are so many failures across the country has nothing to do with climate change because that isn’t real. Democratic demons are to blame. Yessir. Drought, storms, floods, wildfires and all other catastrophes are caused by Obama et al, and a complete lack of programs to enable farmers to adapt to changed environments is completely irrelevant. As are farm subsidies that pay the biggest “farmers” to NOT change their methods. Because Obama.

      1. dpaano March 19, 2015

        Yeah, it’s right up there with Benghazi!!!

    4. dpaano March 19, 2015

      Ever heard of inflation or perhaps some of these prices have to do with water rationing, etc. These items have been going up and down for as long as I can remember. It’s nothing new.

    5. joyfulmeme June 14, 2015

      I’m sure the drought and various weather related issues had nothing to do with it.

  14. Hans Ohff March 29, 2015

    In terms of understanding the various factions in the Middle East, I’ve found Martin Luther’s work on the Jews to be the best introduction to that particular tribe; especially for reading by those of us with a European heritage.


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