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Donald Trump’s Very Weird Russia Thing

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Donald Trump’s Very Weird Russia Thing

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Donald Trump, the Republican Party presidential nominee, has a Putin thing. The Trump campaign has a Russia thing. And Trump Tower has a Russian mobster-running-an-illegal-gambling-operation thing.

The Clinton campaign has a Russian-hacker thing, as does the Democratic National Committee. WikiLeaks is apparently on the receiving end of the yield from the Russian-hacker thing—the Clinton campaign and the DNC being the purloined-upon.

Roger Stone, the dirty trickster and Trump campaign adviser, seems to have a very good WikiLeaks thing going for him, but it would have gone much better if that video footage of Trump on the “Access Hollywood” bus hadn’t crapped all over it. Still, you’ve got to admire the sheer ambition of certain men, the lengths to which they will go to achieve their idea of world domination.

Stone’s former business partner, Paul Manafort, had to leave the Trump campaign, of which he was chairman, when documents unearthed in Ukraine called attention to his work for the pro-Russia side in Russia’s grab of the Crimea. Oops, wrong side.

The persistent subdominance of Russia-linked themes in this election has reached levels a Russian absurdist would love. Had it not been for the leak of the 2005 Access Hollywood video, this campaign would be all Russia, all the time. Russia messing in our election with a very psy-ops approach, Russia messing with our heads. And that’s f*cking weird.

While there may be an anti-Russia bias in U.S. media, that doesn’t disprove the obvious fact that the Trump campaign has ties to Russia, that Trump has admired Putin and has sought his favor, and that law enforcement and U.S. intelligence sources seem convinced Russian intelligence agents are involved in the hacking of the emails of Trump’s opponent. It’s like a “Get Smart” plot.

There’s a toxic brew of archetypes served up in the Russia election drama. In Vladimir Putin one finds the kind of classic, cold authoritarian who served as a role model for Trump, starting with his father, whose “stinginess with praise” for his children was noted by Jason Horowitz in a New York Times story about the Trump family.

When challenged in a televised forum about expressing admiration for Putin, the dictator who disappears journalists and has incited violence against LGBT people, Trump responded, “Well, I think when he calls me brilliant, I’ll take the compliment, OK?”

Maybe I shouldn’t be indulging in such armchair psychologizing, being completely unqualified. But shit, you don’t need to draw me a picture. Truth be told, this campaign has completely unshackled me. Pussy pussy pussy pussy, piz’da (Russian for pussy). But enough about me.

What we have in Donald Trump is a little rich boy spoiled with everything he could possibly want, save his father’s affection—the one thing he couldn’t grab with impunity.

Roger Stone is long known as a dirty trickster who does his thing by jamming the works, sneaking through the back door and planting false narratives, sometimes through the use of a little walking-around money. For Stone, the thrill in winning is the thrill of the cheat, as when he told the Weekly Standard how he worked for the candidacy of third-party candidate John Anderson in 1980 in order to help Ronald Reagan win the electoral votes of the state of New York. He’s the ultimate evil imp, the joker, dandied up in a striped suit, transparently transgressive of the truth, boasting of his ability to change the dynamic of a race.

For Trump’s 2016 presidential run, Stone started out as an official member of the campaign staff, but left in August 2015 after conflicts with others on the campaign, only to assume a role as an “informal” adviser. He helped usher the exit of campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, and the hiring of his old business partner, Paul Manafort, to take Lewandowski’s place.

In the same Weekly Standard story, writer Matt Labash mentions in an aside that Stone, during the course of the writer’s interviews with him, suggested the two go to Ukraine together, where Stone has a client in Volodymyr Lytvyn, who was making a run for Parliament. What Labash doesn’t mention is that Stone’s client has been implicated in the murder of journalist Georgiy Gongadze, a thorn in the side of then-president Leonid Kuchma, for whom Lytvyn served as chief of staff. It’s a story full of intrigue—surreptitiously recorded tapes, an interior minister who may or may not have killed himself. The perfect client for the likes of Roger Stone.

Perhaps Stone’s most epic bit of stagecraft—thus far—is the so-called Brooks Brothers riot, when, as recounts of the 2000 election returns took place in Florida, he organized Republican Capitol Hill staffers to board buses to Miami and raucously storm the Miami-Dade board of elections offices where the recount was taking place.

In the interest of boosting Trump’s electoral fortunes, according to the Associated Press, Stone gave $2,500 through a pro-Trump PAC to Kathy Shelton for her story of Hillary Clinton’s work as a public defender on behalf of a man who had sexually assaulted Shelton when she was 12 years old. At Trump’s pre-debate press stunt October 9, which also featured three women who have accused former President Bill Clinton of sexual assault or harassment, Shelton accused Hillary Clinton of making her life a misery during the course of the trial, which resulted in Shelton’s rapist (who pled guilty) ultimately gleaning a light sentence on a lesser charge. Trump has alleged that Clinton “laughed at” Shelton’s victimization during an interview with an Arkansas reporter, a charge PolitFact has deemed “false.” (There’s no evidence of Clinton doing anything other than what a good public defender should do on behalf of her client.)

Stone is also said to have raised money for Kathleen Willey, one of Bill Clinton’s accusers, to pay off her mortgage, according to the AP. Stone has also coordinated with radio conspiracy theorist Alex Jones to advance the claim that Hillary Clinton belongs in jail. (Jones’ latest contribution to campaign rhetoric is a contest with cash rewards for people who attend Clinton rallies and shout, “Bill Clinton is a rapist!”)

But Stone’s biggest boast of the 2016 campaign so far was made August 8, regarding his purported communication with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange through “a mutual friend,” promising an “October surprise.” On August 21,Stone tweeted that “it will soon [be] [Clinton campaign chair John] Podesta’s time in the barrel.” On October 4, as he periodically does, Assange appeared from his self-imposed exile in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, live-streaming on the laptops of reporters throughout the world like a Cardassian general popping up on the screen of the Starship Enterprise command deck, promising a pre-election dump of documents that would embarrass Hillary Clinton.

The surprise turned out to be the hacking of Podesta’s email account by perpetrators purportedly linked to Russian intelligence agencies, according to FBI sources who talked to the Wall Street Journal—a charge Vladimir Putin himself does not deny.

“Everyone is talking about ‘who did it’ [the hacking],” Putin said in a speech at the October 12 VTB Capital ”Russia Calling!” Investment Forum in Moscow,according to Reuters. “But is it that important? The most important thing is what is inside this information.”

Big Daddy speaks. Trump is simply the conduit through which Putin communicates with America, chuckling as he executes a massive headtrip. It surely plays well to the folks back home in Russia. Let me hear your balalaikas ringing out….

From 1980, when he worked on the Reagan campaign, to 1996, Roger Stone was a business partner of Paul Manafort in the consulting firm Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly (BMSK). A staple of their business was representing the interests of dictators and strongmen such as Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines, Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire, and Angolan guerilla leader Jonas Savimbi before the U.S. Congress and government agencies.

In 1992, the Center for Public Integrity published a report called “The Torturers’ Lobby,” naming BMSK among the top five public relations and lobbying firms representing regimes with horrendous human-rights records. When BMSK merged with another firm in 1996, Manafort left to form a new entity, Davis, Manafort & Freeman, and got in deep with Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch, and Viktor Yanukovych, the pro-Putin president of Ukraine who was deposed in a 2014 popular revolution sparked by Yanukovych’s about-face on his promise to sign an association agreement with the European Union in favor of stronger economic ties with Russia. He fled to Russia, where he remains today.

On August 14, the New York Times reported that ledgers left behind in a Kiev office by officials of Yanukovych’s Regions Party showed $12.7 million in cash payments designated for Manafort in what Ukrainian officials describe as an illegal, off-the-books operation. Manafort denied ever having received such payments, but the revelation was too much even for the Putin-loving Trump campaign, and Manafort made his way toward the door. Initially, it looked as if he would stick around after the hiring of Breitbart News chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and pollster Kellyanne Conway to run the show, but that arrangement soon proved untenable, and Manafort left the campaign.

It’s not just Manafort and Stone who enjoy the company of Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs; Trump has shown himself to be quite impressed with those who have reaped the rewards of being part of Putin’s kleptocracy. Upon announcing that the 2013 Miss Universe pageant (of which Trump was then part-owner) would take place in Moscow, Trump tweeted: “Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant? [I]f so, will he become my new best friend?”

Although apparently disappointed after having tried so hard to lure the Russian dictator to the pageant, the man who is now the Republican standard-bearer was nonetheless pleased with the draw of his November event. “All of the oligarchs were in the room,” Trump told the New York Post after he returned to the U.S., according to a report by Michael Crowley in Politico. Among them were Aras and Emin Agalarov, the father-and-son team whose Crocus City Hall was the pageant venue.

Emin Agalarov, Crowley tells us, is a B-list pop star who got Trump’s attention when he made a music video featuring 2012 Miss Universe, Olivia Culpo, whom he stalks in the vid. Soon Trump was making the deal for the Moscow pageant with Emin’s dad, and talking about teaming up on real estate development projects in Russia. (Trump even appeared in a later video of Emin’s, reciting his trademark line—“You’re fired!”—from his reality show, “The Apprentice.”) Agalarov is said to be close to Putin. As of yet, no Trump-Agalarov partnership has been announced, though Crowley notes that Trump’s attention may have turned toward his plans to run for the U.S. presidency.

But just months before Trump announced his pageant plans for Moscow, something far stranger took place at Trump Tower, according to an investigation by David Corn and Hannah Levintova of Mother Jones. In April 2013, federal agents raided an apartment in Trump Tower—luxurious digs a floor below the Donald’s own sumptuous sanctuary—as “part of a larger raid that rounded up 29 suspected members of two global gambling rings” that were allegedly overseen by a big-deal Russian mobster named Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov, who was said to have collected $10 million in just two months from the gambling operation. Caught in the web was the owner of the Trump Tower apartment, Vadim Trincher, and his business partner in the gambling enterprise, Anatoly Golubchik. Each was sentenced to five years in prison and made to forfeit $20 million in assets. Corn and Levintova write:

The indictment also targeted an associated gambling ring operated by Trincher’s son Illya, Hillel Nahmad, the son of a billionaire art dealer, and others. (Nahmad also reportedly owned the entire 51st floor of Trump Tower.) This crew managed a high-stakes betting operation and money-laundering shop.

Nahmad and Illya Trincher pled guilty.

Not caught was Tokhtakhounov, who remains a fugitive from U.S. justice. But that didn’t stop him, just months after being indicted by the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, from attending Trump’s Miss Universe pageant, and walking the red carpet.

Not quite Putin, but one big kahuna.

Overshadowed by his #pussygate scandal in the second presidential debate was Trump’s defensive response after Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton accused him of being a Putin admirer when agents of Russian intelligence operations were hacking into the emails of the Democratic National Committee.

“I don’t know Putin,” Trump said. “I think it would be great if we got along with Russia because we could fight ISIS together, as an example. But I don’t know Putin.” Apparently not in that “new best friend” category yet.

Trump continued: “But I notice, anytime anything wrong happens, they like to say the Russians are—she doesn’t know if it’s the Russians doing the hacking. Maybe there is no hacking. But they always blame Russia. And the reason they blame Russia because they think they’re trying to tarnish me with Russia. I know nothing about Russia. I know—I know about Russia, but I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia. I don’t deal there. I have no businesses there. I have no loans from Russia.”

Had anybody asked Trump if he had loans from Russia? No. Clinton simply mentioned that he might have business interests there, which is probably a fair bet, if for no other reason than Trump’s Miss Universe adventure in Moscow where, gee whiz, all the oligarchs were in the room.

He then went into a seeming non sequitur about what a “great balance sheet” he has, saying because of that balance sheet, the U.S. government chose him to develop the site of the Old Post Office Pavilion in Washington DC.

“One of the primary area things—in fact, perhaps the primary thing—was balance sheet,” Trump continued. “But I have no loans with Russia. You could go to the United States government, and they would probably tell you that, because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development I had to have.”

Still, no one had asked him if he had loans with Russia, and now he had mentioned it twice.

And now he had contradicted himself with his assertion that he had no knowledge of Russia, having said during a Republican primary debate, “I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest which was a big, big incredible event, an incredible success.”

While Trump may have no firsthand knowledge of hacking, during a July press conference, he invited Russia to hack into Clinton’s private email server, the one on which she controversially conducted government business during her tenure as secretary of state, and the subject of endless investigation by Republicans in Congress.

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough asked Trump to justify his praise for Putin in light of the fact that Putin “is a person that kills journalists, political opponents and invades countries.”

“Our country does plenty of killing also, Joe,” Trump responded. “He’s running his country and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have in this country.”

It’s a hell of an election season, what with the Russian thing, and the pussy thing. Which has me thinking, pussy, Russia, pussy, Russia, Pussy Riot. Whatever happened to them?


Adele M. Stan is AlterNet’s senior Washington editor, and a weekly columnist for The American Prospect. Follow her on Twitter @addiestan.

Photo: Russian President Vladimir Putin cups his ear to listen to a question as he departs after a summit on the Ukraine crisis at the Elysee Palace in Paris, France, October 2, 2015. REUTERS/Philippe Wojazer  



  1. Eleanore Whitaker October 22, 2016

    There is nothing really that weird about a CEO failure like Trump who can’t be trusted to tell the truth any minute of any hour, sucking up to Putin, a bully and a murdering tyrant.

    But come on folks, so was Krushchev, Stalin and Brezhnev. Were are they now? Russians have been in a constant state of Civil war in their entire history. But, Trump is already losing most of his wealth. He smells profits in Russia if he just cozies up to Putin. Russian has revitalized its Siberian coal and oil production and Trump has lost the Saudis and Middle Eastern high rollers who frequented his NJ casinos thanks to his bashing Muslims. So it makes sense he would go Ruskee and try to get in good with Putin. A scumbag is a scumbag and there is no way to change that.

  2. ivory69690@yahoo.com October 22, 2016

    Trump responded, “Well, I think when he calls me brilliant, I’ll take the compliment, OK?”//// even knowing he is lying through his teeth ? for DONNY DUMP you may think you are brilliant but you’re just BRILLO that’s always used around dirty things

  3. Grannysmovin October 22, 2016

    Just an article originally reported by the Associated Press: “Fanning those flames, Russia’s government has asked Oklahoma and two other states to allow Russian officials to be present at polling stations on Election Day, to study the “U.S. experience in organization of voting process.” Allegations by the U.S. government that Russia is trying to influence the election by hacking Democratic groups has fed a Clinton camp claim that Russian President Vladimir Putin is siding with Trump.
    The Oklahoma secretary of state’s office said Friday it had denied the Russian request, in line with state law. At the White House, press secretary Josh Earnest said it was unclear what Moscow was trying to do.”
    “It’s appropriate that people might be suspicious of their motives,” Earnest said.

    Why are they asking to have Russian officials observe our elections?

    1. charleo1 October 22, 2016

      Talk about Chutzpah! Talk about emboldening Russia! Can I help you guys with something? No, that’s fine, President Putin sent us here to watch Comrade Donald’s back. You Americans carry on..

  4. charleo1 October 22, 2016

    Birds of a feather? Hasn’t any of Trump’s loyal supporters had even a moments worth of second thoughts about this particular group of companions? This cadre of dirty tricksters, authoritarian enablers, propagandists, and the anti-Semitic Steve Bannon, he has put in charge of running his campaign? His refusal to release his own tax returns in light of his known Russian business interests, ties with Eastern European Oligarchs, or have they considered the unsolved disappearances of journalists who rubbed Valdimir Putin the wrong way? While taking into account Trump’s own statements, a constant tirade of visceral seething hatred for America’s free press, that refuses to obediently go along with his claptrap demagoguery. So great his hatred in fact, the Trumpster has started his news network. That makes Fox News look like a bastion of hard hitting fact finders by comparison. A mix of Trump’s, alt-right propaganda, and conspiracy laden horse manure. Only briefly interrupted from time to time, by QVC style ads telling viewers what a magnificent fellow Donald L. Trump truly is. It supposedly raised 9 million dollars in its first 90 minute debut. Tump said, “Believe me, it was a huge success…the biggest success of all time..!!!” “Never in the history of such things has there ever been….!!!”

    1. Wolfesgang October 22, 2016

      By the way, ever wondered about why Trump is constantly using “Believe me” all the time? It’s not just an attempt at being chummy — it’s an indirect demonstration of his almost complete dissociation from accuracy, facts, and thruthfulness. He’s simply replacing these with his megalomaniac style of appealing.

      1. charleo1 October 22, 2016

        Agreed. I used to work with a guy, whenever he said, “to be honest with you,” Little bells went off that meant, Look Out, Here it Comes! Put your tall boots on! I thought of him when I first heard Trump announce he was running for President. Look out for this guy…Get the wading boots on!

    2. Independent1 October 22, 2016

      Just to expand a little on just how closely Trump is tied into Russia and Putin, here’s some excerpts from a RedState article:

      Why George Will Might Be Right About Vladimir Putin’s

      …At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on
      Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a
      conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where
      they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through
      administrations of both parties. There is also something between a
      non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed
      financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two

      2. Post-bankruptcy Trump has been highly reliant on money from
      Russia, most of which has over the years become increasingly
      concentrated among oligarchs and sub-garchs close to Vladimir Putin.
      Here’s a good overview from The Washington Post, with one morsel for illustration …

      Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips
      to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on
      Russian investors to buy their properties around the world.

      “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of
      our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in
      2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a
      trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”


      There’s no wonder Trump is so adamant about not losing this presidential election – there’s a possibility he could lose everything if he loses. He’s spent about 50 million on his campaign (of course his foundation kicked in a chunck of that) and the companies he runs are 650 million in debt; and there’s another deal that may make him liable for another 2 Billion. So if he loses and the Russians call in a lot of his debts, and he ends up with big fines on a lot of these outstanding felony cases t hat are coming up for trial; Trump’s financial future could be a real big questionmark.

  5. bobnstuff October 22, 2016

    Here are some facts about Russia, Largest land mass country but only the 13 largest economy, right below Italy. They have one thirty plus year old aircraft carrier that can hold 15 planes. If it wasn’t for their history as the USSR they would have little power in the world. Putin has sucked money out of the country to become one of the richest men on earth, he can buy or sell Trump out of petty cash. Trump wants to be Putin.

  6. yabbed October 22, 2016

    Hillary was so right. Trump and his supporters truly are deplorable.

  7. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 22, 2016

    This all goes to show in a nutshell what an inordinate love of money, fueled by an uncontrollable urge to dominate and be in control will do to an individual, to a society, and to its political and social institutions. Even the major Religions, from those during the times of Abraham and Krishna, up to Moses and Jesus, and continuing up to the advent of Muhammad, have been ravaged and corrupted by greed and the disorientation caused by fracturing into innumerable sects and trends of interpretations. Which is why Religion has always been subjected to the paradigm of Progressive Revelation to account for human’s built-in tendency to choose the wrong path when the straight path had already been laid out and re-emphasized by the Messenger for any particular era, in order to counteract these trends in human behavior.

    Trump is just one of numerous major examples of this kind of corruption wrought by materialism and the thirst to acquire and dominate—his buddy and kindred soul, Putin feels and operates under the same corrupt influences, which both the Protestant Movements in America nor the Russian Orthodox Church, respectively, can no longer exert an influence over.

    Shoghi Effendi, in a document in which he explores the deterioration of human society, expound s on this using the Writings of Baha’u’llah as his motivation. In the 1930’s from a portion from his book “The World Order of Baha’u’llah, he explains as follows:

    “…That the forces of irreligion, of a purely materialistic philosophy, of unconcealed paganism have been unloosed, are now spreading, and, by consolidating themselves, are beginning to invade some of the most powerful Christian institutions of the western world, no unbiased observer can fail to admit. That these institutions are becoming increasingly restive, that a few among them are already dimly aware of the pervasive influence of the Cause of Bahá’u’lláh, that they will, as their inherent strength deteriorates and their discipline relaxes, regard with deepening dismay the rise of His New 181 World Order, and will gradually determine to assail it, that such an opposition will in turn accelerate their decline, few, if any, among those who are attentively watching the progress of His Faith would be inclined to question.
    “The vitality of men’s belief in God,” Bahá’u’lláh has testified, “is dying out in every land; nothing short of His wholesome medicine can ever restore it. The corrosion of ungodliness is eating into the vitals of human society; what else but the Elixir of His potent Revelation can cleanse and revive it?” “The world is in travail,” He has further written, “and its agitation waxeth day by day. Its face is turned towards waywardness and unbelief. Such shall be its plight that to disclose it now would not be meet and seemly.”
    This menace of secularism that has attacked Islám and is undermining its remaining institutions, that has invaded Persia, has penetrated into India, and raised its triumphant head in Turkey, has already manifested itself in both Europe and America, and is, in varying degrees, and under various forms and designations, challenging the basis of every established religion, and in particular the institutions and communities identified with the Faith of Jesus Christ. It would be no exaggeration to say that we are moving into a period which the future historian will regard as one of the most critical in the history of Christianity….”

    Given the Trump phenomenon, the tragedy in Syria, the nativist influences in America and in Europe, the corruption in Russia, America, Latin America, across Africa and Asia, the destruction of the environment, and the economic chaos, we can see the symptoms echoed in the passage above written nearly a century ago being played out today.

  8. Todd Nelson October 22, 2016

    I love reading articles that are total steamy piles of bull excrement. This author shows that for liberals, reality is a option. She makes up all these supposed connections between Trump and the Russians, but leaves out Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta, with his 75,000 shares of a company run directly by Vladimir Putin. She also leaves out that he sat on the board of directors of that same company until he took the job as Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager. He did not give up his 75,000 shares in the company, however. The Russians may have hacked the Clinton campaign’s emails because Putin already knew all the lies Mrs. Clinton has been telling, and he got disgusted enough that he had to show the world jus how corrupt Mrs. Clinton is, and has been since she got fired from the Watergate committee back in the 1970’s.

    1. Independent1 October 22, 2016

      Please provide credible links proving all the BS you just spewed!! And by credible I mean non right-wing biased!! You know, none of those websites that make a practice of fabricating reality on a regular basis!!! (And just for your info, no YouTube-related links are acceptable.)

      1. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

        He can’t.
        But the HeraldOnline did have an excellent article Oct. 19th debunking Breitbart’s, Trump’s and Daily Caller’s assertion of a Podesta-Russian investment link. UK’s Herald has much to be desired sometimes, but I’d still accept their reporting over Breitbart’s doodles any day.

        1. Todd Nelson October 23, 2016

          Try actually reading the email stream instead of spewing claims by a left wing press outlet, then make your decision. All the news media, both sides, count on the public to be too lazy to actually find out for themselves if what the news outlet says is true. I go right to the source, Wikileaks. It is online and is there for all to read.

          1. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

            “I went right to the source, WikiLeaks, for my information.”
            So Todd Nelson ‘relies’ on stolen goods for ‘the truth’. Yup. That’s what he said.
            Not only are the WikiLieaks emails stolen from the DNC, Podesta, and other sources, a majority of US government and private security authorities assert that the stealing was done by Russian hackers. AND Newsweek’s Kurt Eichenwald exposed at least one of these WikiLeaks emails to be altered — to quote from an article that Eichenwald wrote!
            Compared to that, Todd Nelson, I’m sticking with actual, original, and authentic reportage from HeraldOnline.

          2. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Don’t forget the mysterious way that Putin’s RT posted an article about some Wikileaks nonsense an hour before Wikileaks did.

          3. Independent1 October 23, 2016

            Only someone totally devoid of commons sense does not realize Assange is modifying stolen emails he’s received or ones that have been altered before he received them. Wake up!!!

          4. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            “An actual email stream” (from the Russian intelligence agencies).

            You trust Putin but not the press. There’s something wrong with you.

      2. Todd Nelson October 23, 2016

        try reading the WIkileaks files on John Podesta. There are tens of thousands of pages of them, with details of his holdings in a company controlled by Putin, 75,000 shares and a seat on the board of directors, which he gave up when he officially became Clinton’s campaign manager. Instead of divesting his shares in a Russian controlled company, he transferred those share into a shell corporation he formed to hide who actually owns them. He shows he really is an excellent, if dishonest, lawyer. I didn’t get this information from anywhere but the files containing his emails, of which I have read . He has not denied the truthfulness any of the leaked emails. The link is out there and you can find it for yourself.

      3. Kemo Spear October 23, 2016

        This is too fucking funny! You said “Please provide credible links proving all the BS you just spewed!! And by credible I mean non right-wing biased!!” Yet when I asked you to provide credible links, you linked me to the daily Kos, an ultra far left liberal web site. You sir a totally hypocrite!!!

    2. Cory October 22, 2016

      Just wish we had 1 prime time news network worthy of Airing all of this, I’m just afraid at this point, On American soil, that news agency would be drone striked or burned down somehow. I only wish more people were waking up to this stuff faster and more widespread due to the time we have left. Crossing my fingers for a Trump win to perhaps get this stuff blown out in the open, forceably for all to see! The Domino effect after that should be quite satisfying I would say!

      1. Independent1 October 22, 2016

        A trump win to what?? What fantasy land are you living in?? If Trump wins you can kiss America goodbye. He’s in so much cahoots with the Russians that you’ll have to start learning Russian.

        1. Cory October 22, 2016

          I trust you can find it through basic Google searches. I’m not your bitch to hunt down what you fail to locate yourself. This isn’t the welfare office where I magically make up for what you can’t provide for yourself.

          1. Independent1 October 22, 2016

            ” I only wish more people were waking up to this stuff faster and more widespread due to the time we have left. Crossing my fingers for a Trump win to perhaps get this stuff blown out in the open, forceably for all to see! The Domino effect after that should be quite satisfying I would say!”

            So you post some gibberish like the above which has absolutely no meaning, and you can’t even explain what you meant??

            What in the creation were you talking about that would give you the notion to vote for a total ignoramus like Trump??

          2. Cory October 22, 2016

            I stopped at the part where it said fox news. Thanks but try again. unless you would like to give links on Hillarys connections with the Russians too! Then all I can view this as is Conspiracy theories via the System. I vote for Trump to voice I am against Hillary. that is my choice and right. Something you can not infringe upon no matter how much it makes your skin crawl. Hillarys life and her very well documented actions are what turns me against her and especially her policies.

          3. Independent1 October 23, 2016

            Sounds to me you’ve been brainwashed by Fox News. Hillary is the most qualified person to ever run for the presidency and she is a light-years better person than Donald Trump; no matter what lies you may have read. She’s helped more people in her sleep than Trump has in his lifetime.

            Here’s just some examples:

            But that night in the theater at the Women in the World Conference two years ago, the other six brave women came up on the stage. Anabella De Leon of Guatemala pointed to Hillary Clinton, who was sitting right in the front row, and said, “I met her and my life changed.” And all weekend long, women from all over the world said the same thing:

            “I’m alive because she came to my village, put her arm around me, and had a photograph taken together.”

            “I’m alive because she went on our local TV and talked about my work, and now they’re afraid to kill me.”

            “I’m alive because she came to my country and she talked to our leaders, because I heard her speak, because I read about her.”

            She’s just been busy working, doing it, making those words “Women’s Rights are Human Rights” into something every leader in every country now knows is a linchpin of American policy. It’s just so much more than a rhetorical triumph. We’re talking about what happened in the real world, the institutional change that was a result of that stand she took.

            Everywhere she goes, she meets with the head of state and she meets with the women leaders of grassroots organizations in each country. This goes automatically on her schedule. As you’ve seen, when she went to Burma – our first government trip there in 40 years. She met with its
            dictator and then she met with Aung San Suu Kyi, the woman he kept under detention for 15 years, the leader of Burma’s pro-democracy movement. This isn’t just symbolism. It’s how you change the world.

            And this:

            Hillary Clinton is smart, steady and able to rebound quickly
            from defeat. When her attempt at health care reform failed during her husband’s first term, Clinton worked with senators from both parties – Democrat Ted Kennedy and Republican Orrin Hatch — to create the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which cut the uninsured rate of American children in half. More than eight million children have coverage because of the program.

            Critics who claim Clinton has no record of accomplishment despite her sparkling resume need to look closer at her record.

            She helped secure more than $21 billion for World Trade Center redevelopment. She led investigations into the health problems of 9/11 first responders. She promoted increased National Institutes of Health funding for research into cancer and asthma. She was the principal author of sanctions – particularly on oil imports to the European Union — that brought Iran to the negotiating table. She helped bring about a 2012 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel that headed off an Israeli invasion of Gaza. She named an “ambassador at large” for women’s rights.

            “Nearly every foreign policy victory of President Obama’s second term,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., “has Secretary Clinton’s fingerprints on it.”

            And this:

            One basic test of a politician’s honesty is whether that person tells the truth when on the campaign trail, and by that standard Clinton does well. PolitiFact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking site, found 50 percent of the Clinton statements it examined to be either true or mostly true.

            That compares to 49 percent for Bernie Sanders’s, 9 percent for Trump’s, 22 percent for Ted Cruz’s and 52 percent for John Kasich’s. Here we have a rare metric of integrity among candidates, and it suggests that contrary to popular impressions, Clinton is relatively honest — by
            politician standards.

            And this:

            The Clinton Foundation hasn’t put one penny in the pockets of either Bill or Hillary Clinton. And extensive reviews haven’t found any evidence—any evidence—that it affected a single action at the State Department.

            Bill Clinton set up the public charity after he wrapped up his
            presidency in 2001 with the idea of bringing government, businesses and social groups together to tackle big problems. It was kind of a new idea at the time. On Monday, Clinton wrote in a post on Medium that the foundation is about “creating opportunities and solving problems faster,
            better, at lower cost so that more people are empowered to build better futures for themselves, their families and their communities.” …

            The foundation is made up of 11 non-profit groups that work on four major issues: global health and wellness, climate change, economic development and improving opportunities for girls and women. Health is a big focus. In more than 70 countries, according to the foundation, it helps 11.5 million people, including 800,000 children, with HIV/AIDS get their medication at 90% lower cost — more than half the adults and three-quarters of the children getting treatment in the
            world today.

            All those calling for the immediate closure of the foundation are calling for the disruption of health care to over 11 million people, and putting in doubt the lives of over half the people being treated for HIV anywhere in the world. Read that part again: the Clinton Foundation helps 800,000 kids getting treatment for HIV/AIDS. That’s what it means to shut down the Clinton Foundation.

            Hillary Clinton should be proud of everything about the Clinton Foundation. And those people like Trump, who is genuinely trying to profit by placing thousands of children at risk, or the pundits shaking their heads over the “optics” of the situation, should be deeply, deeply ashamed.

          4. Cory October 23, 2016

            Word for word from the Cornell Law Library Former United States Attorney General Michael Mukasey tells MSNBC that not only is Hillary Clinton’s private email server illegal, it “disqualifies” her from holding any federal office. Very specifically points to one federal law, Title 18. Section 2071. For those of us who do not have United States Code committed to memory, here’s what it says:

            “(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

            (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

            Yes, it explicitly states “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”

          5. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

            Michael Mukasey also recanted and apologized on multiple broadcasts August 27th and 28th, 2015.
            I guess you overlooked that, yes?

          6. Independent1 October 23, 2016

            I can only gather that Michael Mukasey is just one more crazy right-wing nut case just like you. Because Hillary did absolutely nothing wrong by having a private server.

            Fact is, that every government employee who is politically active HAS TO MAINTAIN POLITICALLY ORIENTED EMAILS ON A PRIVATE SERVER ON THE JOB BY LAW!! That means, every politically active government employee has to sort between emails they receive every day as to whether they are politically motivated or are of pure government-work intent.

            Which means that Hillary did nothing wrong for which she could be indicted for anything for numerous reasons:

            1) There was not directive active in theState Department, when Hillary became SOS which required her using a government server exclusively.

            2) No previous SOS had ever not used a private server for their work – Powell and Rice used the RNC’s private servers almost exclusively – as did 20 others in the Bush Administration;; where 80 million emails are still missing.

            3) Powell and Rice deliberately erased all their emails and were indicted for nothing.

            4) Not one email found on Hillary’s servers was appropriately marked classified at the time Hillary received it – NOT ONE!

            5) Senders of classified information are the ones responsible for a materials classification, not the receiver. So the 300 people who knowingly sent what could be classified government material to Hillary’s private server or more guilty than she is

            And I could list a number more reasons your post is total nonsense!!!

          7. Cory October 23, 2016

            seems like our so called leaders and leaders to be, have no problem pushing this ahead stat! just one more reason out of a plethora of reasons to not let her in.

          8. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            “What if I claim that Hillary is JUST AS BAD as actual Putin employee Donald Trump? Then you have to vote for him, for some reason!!!1”

            Deeply stupid.

          9. Independent1 October 22, 2016

            And if you don’t think Putin has a hold over Trump, spend a few minutes reading this article from RedState:

            Why George Will Might Be Right About Vladimir Putin’s Hold Over Donald Trump (VIDEO)

            Just an excerpt:

            …At a minimum, Trump appears to have a deep financial dependence on Russian money from persons close to Putin. And this is matched to a conspicuous solicitousness to Russian foreign policy interests where they come into conflict with US policies which go back decades through administrations of both parties. There is also something between a non-trivial and a substantial amount of evidence suggesting Putin-backed financial support for Trump or a non-tacit alliance between the two men.


            And it’s really not financial dependence, it’s financial indebtedness – Trump’s businesses are 650 million in debt most of it to the Russians. And he’s involved in another deal that may make him liable for another 2 billion.

          10. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Yes, you can’t back up those statements so instead: abuse.

          11. Cory October 24, 2016

            actually. I can.

          12. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            OK sorry that makes all the difference, I’m definitely voting for the delusional racist fake billionaire now.

          13. Cory October 24, 2016

            Care to wager that I can’t back those words up? name your price! I am guaranteed to win and teach you a lesson at the same time!

          14. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Yes I get that you’re self-important as well as delusional.

          15. Cory October 24, 2016

            Yes you want to wager or no? I’m guaranteed to win based on your request. Care to be proven a loser? I guarantee I can do it! or are too scared?

          16. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            I can’t imagine why you think I’d take you seriously.

          17. Cory October 24, 2016

            wise man, not taking a loss!

          18. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            yes a “loss” to some racist conspiracy theorist who can’t back up his lunatic claims. what would I do if that happened.

          19. Cory October 24, 2016

            But I can. And what you aren’t aware of, I allready have.

          20. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Uh huh. Some racist dullard who can’t spell “already” sure is proving something or other about his loser candidate.

          21. Cory October 24, 2016

            First, I can spell already, I don’t always sit and correct my phone everytime it auto spells for me. second, not at anytime have I expressed racism in anyway, you merely made this up in your head via your own Racist thoughts and have projected it upon me like I’m sure you do with anyone. and Third, I’m very much ready to back up my words when you feel ready to be embarrassed. Just waiting for your slow brain to catch up. Take your time, I think we all know YOUR NEED IT!

          22. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            OK sorry you come across as an angry illiterate conspiracy theorist, just because you’re abusive, can’t spell, and post conspiracy theories. Bad news, though – Trump’s going to lose. Better luck next vanity candidate!

          23. Cory October 25, 2016

            Between the scandals of Both Barry and The older woman, I seriously doubt it. But just because you lack class and intellectual means to survival, I’ve come to the conclusion it’s not my job to blow sunshine up your ass so you can see past your dark hateful soul. Being an obvious child left behind, as you are, I can see why anger, hate and racism is alive and well with you.

          24. I Am Helpy October 25, 2016

            Again, I can’t imagine why you think I care what some slack-jawed racist yokel thinks.

          25. Cory October 25, 2016

            well caring about yourself should matter. zip guess not with you! tsk tsk

          26. I Am Helpy October 25, 2016

            “I know you are, but what am I?!?” – the exact level of discourse to be expected from a white nationalist.

          27. Cory October 25, 2016

            it must be both demoralizing and exilerating at the same time to place yourself on top of that pedestal of yours. That pedestal located in your mommy’s basement. Your true claim to fame. As for your prior words, just remember who said them. you. It must be self admitting to what you are night. Do continue though, I love when the clueless bury themselves further and further in their hole of self shame. With you it appears there are many things people could watch and learn and know WHAT NOT to be. It’s important you keep yourself on that pedestal because it serves as a poster child of this is how low your life could be if you made choices like yourself. Besides these are just words tossed about the net? Seems as if you have insecurities to protect? Having an illusionalternative Hillary moment? Having doubts? Loss must feel normal to you I would imagine.

          28. I Am Helpy October 25, 2016

            OK sorry you think I even read your posts. I dunno where you got that impression.

    3. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

      If only people took your made-up conspiracy theories seriously, then they’d see how an unhinged thin-skinned racist Putin puppet should be President!!1 Why won’t they understand?!? It is a mystery.

      1. CPANY October 24, 2016

        Your pseudonym is “Helpy”? Don’t you mean “helpful?” Your fractured English suggests that you’re a foreigner. Are you Russian?

        1. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

          Uh huh. You got nothing, so you substitute insults. Doesn’t work, I’m afraid.

    4. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

      I seriously can’t stop giggling at this. Imaginary investment, with fictitious job on the board. Hacking of Clinton’s emails that never happened, with bonus “Putin did it because of what a swell guy he is” backstory. A story about Clinton getting fired that was debunked years and years ago. A claim that Wikileaks has somehow provided some sort of proof that the Clinton Foundation ever did a damn thing wrong. Another false claim about the Clinton Foundation.

      Not one solitary thing you said was true, and that is AMAZING. How do you function in the real world?

      1. Todd Nelson October 24, 2016

        It must be nice for liberals to live in a world where reality is just an option. You might notice the Clinton campaign has not denied any of what Wikileaks has published, from Mrs. Clinton talking about having a different position in private from the one in public, to her saying she wished there were open borders to a Brazilian banking concern. The open borders would open the floodgates for up to 600 MILLION people to just walk into America with NO vetting. This isn’t fiction, it is reality live with it.. If there was no hacking of Clinton’s emails, then how did her email conversations end up on a computer in Romania?? No wonder you are happy, you live in La La land. If you have any spare of whatever you are smoking, can I have some? It must be really really good

        1. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

          Don’t see why you have to try to make this about me; it’s you that believes the obvious lies and dumb hoaxes.

          I hope that helps!

        2. PrecipitousDrop October 24, 2016

          Check a map, ToddNelson. Romania is a whole lot closer to the Republic of Russia than the Ecuadorean Embassy in London.
          Or, do you suggest that Romania is complicit in the hacked emails given to WikiLeaks?

          1. Todd Nelson October 25, 2016

            It must be nice to be SO uninformed. It is from Guccifer that we learned of the existence of Mrs. Bill (the rapist) Clinton’s server. This has nothing to do with Wikileaks. It has to do with Sid Blumenthal’s emails and Clinton’s replies. They were “hacked” by a supposed farmer in Romania, who the FBI extradited to the US in an unheard of move. Guccifer also hacked the emails from Colin Powell and GW Bush, after they both left office. It was to find out how many of her emails he had accessed after the FBI found a number of classified emails on her illegal, unsecure server. It is illegal because it contained emails sent and received while she was secretary of state. Those emails are legally government property, which means she, technically, stole them.

          2. PrecipitousDrop October 25, 2016

            ANOTHER crackpot conspiracy slipped past me?

        3. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

          To sum up the ridiculous & false claims you made:

          – Podesta absolutely never invested in a Putin-owned company (and even if he did, it’s not clear to me how “guy that Clinton knows once buying some Russian shares” is supposed to outweigh “Trump fellating Putin at every opportunity”). Src: Herald Online

          – Clinton’s emails were never hacked; State dept. email was. Src: read a goddam newspaper.

          – Also, Putin is really, seriously not trying to help Trump win because he loves America JUST SO MUCH. Src: oh come on.

          – Clinton was not “fired” from the Watergate commission, and the guy who claims he fired her never had the authority to do any such thing (i.e. he’s lying). Src: Snopes

          – Nobody has shown any wrongdoing by the Clinton Foundation. Ever. Let alone Wikileaks, which mostly concerns itself with blaming Jews for bad-mouthing Putin. Src: reality.

          I hope that helps! Sorry you’re gullible!


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