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Morning Joe crew *Shocked* that some Trump supporters are racist

This morning, MSNBC’s Morning Joe crew invited director and Hillary Clinton supporter Rob Reiner on for what became a wide-ranging discussion on the media’s role in creating Donald Trump, and the success Trump has had with one formally-marginalized segment of the Republican base. Namely: racists. But when Reiner dared to say that treacherous r-word, the show went off the deep end.

“How do you explain the millions and millions of people who do not watch this show who actually like what they hear from Donald Trump,” co-host Willie Geist asks Reiner, “and aren’t taking messages and orders from us in the media, but they listen to what he says for themselves and vote for him?”

“There are a lot of people who are racists,” Reiner responds.

Joe Scarborough, a former three-term congressman from Florida’s first congressional district, was shocked — shocked — at Reiner’s statement of a fairly plain truth: an alarming number of white nationalists have endorsed Trump, from the start of his campaign to the present, and the Republican frontrunner has barely made an effort to disavow them.

“Oh my God, did you just say that?! You just said that!” Scarborough responds, aghast.

Why? Has Joe forgotten that racism exists in America? Has he ignored Trump’s effect on overt expressions of racism? Does he not know that the supremacist website Stormfront was forced to upgrade its web servers to accommodate the enormous boost in traffic it has received since Donald Trump declared his candidacy?

Did Joe hear about the former prison guards (and Ku Klux Klan members) who were arrested at the beginning of April for plotting to kill a recently-released black inmate, just a few hours’ drive away from his former district?

What’s worse: saying that Trump’s campaign is differentiated by support from a large number of racists, or pretending ignorance of that fact?

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  1. Lynda Groom May 5, 2016

    Clearly somebody needs to get out of the studio once in while.

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  2. Otto T. Goat May 5, 2016

    Hillary’s campaign is getting support from a large number of rapists.

    https://dev.nationalmemo.com/virginia-gop-threaten-suit-keep-felons-voting/

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    1. jmprint May 5, 2016

      Trumps is getting a whole lot of vote from people that shouldn’t be called people, they are inhumane.

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    1. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

      Copied from the Daily Stormer, or was it Stormfront? And I guess we can see where you spend your time when you’re not trolling here.

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  3. greenlantern1 May 5, 2016

    I am a Caucasian.
    I used to be a Republican.
    My hatred, for the party of Nixon, is far deeper than my skin!!

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  4. Roseann Duchon May 5, 2016

    Rob is right. Many of Trump supporters ARE racists, either outright or closeted! Some people won’t even admit they are voting for Trump. God help us all if he were to win!

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  5. coyote521 May 5, 2016

    Trump supporters racist? Tough call. the KKK supports him, and he pretends not to know enough about them to disavow.
    and isn’t it odd that he doesn’t know much about the KKK when his own father attended their rallies back in the day?

    There isn’t any debate over Trump or his hate.
    What’s problematic is Scarborough, who should know better.

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    1. jmprint May 5, 2016

      He can’t he is so far into Trump it’s pathetic, I have to change the channel sometimes, he makes me puke.

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      1. coyote521 May 5, 2016

        So I’ve heard. I don’t watch him myself, I find him unbearable.

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  6. jmprint May 5, 2016

    All you have to do is read the comments on republican sponsored threads to see the hate, ie The Patriot, Horns News and Breighart (sp). I am voting for Hillary, I do not want America to be a white supremacist rule.

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    1. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

      Deadbart. FIFY.

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  7. CEB May 5, 2016

    Joe Scarborough lives in his own version of reality. I stopped watching him years ago. Good to know that I made the correct decision. He brings no original thought to his program, other than his unwavering support of the party of no.

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  8. msnyc10 May 5, 2016

    News flash; Clinton has a lot of supporters who are racist, as does Sanders. I’m not saying Trump is a legitimate candidate but writing off all his supporters are “racist” or pretending there is less racism because it is not over is a ridiculous simplistic reply from Reiner. Maybe his very approach is WHY Trump has so many supporters.

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    1. jmprint May 5, 2016

      Before you comment like this do go read the viral that is being spewed from the KKK, white supremacist. They are waiting the call from their supreme to start killing people that are not of the same color or race.

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    2. SandyTodd May 5, 2016

      They support Trump because they’re bigots and racists. Let’s count the ways. They don’t want equal rights for gays, in any form. They love the Confederate flag. They think the Civil War was fought over economics and taxes. They flip out over the Mexican border, even though half of illegal immigrants are here due to expired visas. They stick with him even after the most disgusting comments made about women, and Megyn Kelly in particular. They love the idea of banning Muslims. What else would you call all of this? Are there people who think like this but vote for Democrats anyway? Sure. But, there’s no Democrat making this a platform.

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      1. jmprint May 5, 2016

        Exactly.

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      2. msnyc10 May 5, 2016

        SOME of his supporters are racists and bigots. If you simplify his support as racist and bigoted and their positions to your examples, you/we will have a hard time beating him. I don’t really feel like repeating my point/position since i just did right above your reply but the gist is that underestimating the breadth of his support or supporters is not the way to defeat him (in fact it will only empower him).

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        1. SandyTodd May 6, 2016

          Oh I do. They want their jobs back — that he destroyed because he loves China and their products, as well as using Mexican laborers in hotels, restaurants and construction crews. They want their American made health insurance back, even though they never had any to begin with because their minimum wage job doesn’t give it. They want to bomb all these A-rabs off the planet. I get what they want – bottom line though, it’s all fueled by racism.

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          1. msnyc10 May 6, 2016

            Ok I guess you got it all figured out.

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          2. SandyTodd May 6, 2016

            I am 58 years old. For the first 20 years of my life, I thought we had turned the racial corner and only a teeny number remained. For the next 20 years, my head routinely snapped and exploded at comments and “jokes” made by church-going white people, some voted citizens of the year. The last 10 years has literally been the light turned on and the cockroaches multiplying to the point there is no room under the rocks for them. I know two kinds of people, liberals and racists. I didn’t make seemingly sane people go on Obama birther and Muslim rants. Bigotry did.

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    3. dpaano May 5, 2016

      Racism runs rampant in this ENTIRE country unfortunately, but it’s sad that white supremacists have endorsed Trump, and I think that’s where the problem lies.

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      1. msnyc10 May 5, 2016

        Agreed. However my issue is with Reiner (and others) dismissing Trumps’ support as being about racism or by racists. Not because it is unfair to Trump but because it misses the larger issue(s) by a mile and when you do that you miss the opportunities to beating him. I am a conservative who will be doing the previosuly unthinkable in November; voting for Hillary. She’s going to have to do more than call him a racist or assume his supporters are racists (or sexists, or xenophobes or idiots) to get more voters like me on her side. I’m saying Reiner doesn’t help the issue by writing off his supporters that way. All of Trumps’ supporters aren’t racists and all the racists aren’t supporting Trump. Since it is SO important that he not win, it is so important that people understand that.

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      2. plc97477 May 5, 2016

        Actually the biggest problem is that he did not distance himself from them from the get-go.

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    4. charleo1 May 5, 2016

      I’ll go with Trump on Trump. That many of the people he’s attracting are racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and poorly educated rubes. But I’m sure there are some good intentioned ones in there too….How’s that?

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      1. msnyc10 May 5, 2016

        Heck I’m sure some of Hillary’s supporters are well intentioned ones as well 😉 The issue is that people like Reiner are downplaying the scope and breadth of his support and it will make him harder to beat, not easier.

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        1. charleo1 May 6, 2016

          Historically, and to our credit, even in the worst of times, this Country has rejected the Trumps, the race baiters, demagogues, and the homophobes among us, that are always with us, but come to the forefront every now and again. Because most Americans realize if these people had been in charge when their families came to America, they themselves might be living in tyranny, instead of enjoying the freedom they embrace today. That America’s greatness has always emanated from it’s generosity of spirit, it’s inclusiveness, and respect for the inherent Rights of the individual over the authoritarianism of the State.

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          1. waggaze May 6, 2016

            I can agree on most of your assertion. America never embraced the indigenous as citizens until 1924 as citizens under federal decree. Prior to that American Indians had no rights as a person nor legal redress in a court whether state or federal whether for a capital crime or a theft of property including loss of freedom. America has been exclusive of these people who were and are the first Americans that Trump including his followers hate.

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          2. charleo1 May 6, 2016

            History being the past is unchangeable. But also should also be both informative, and instructive in our albeit flawed, never ending quest for that better, fairer, more just, and ever more perfect union. And I believe America is always best served, when we as a people acknowledge those black marks, admit they weren’t in keeping with our standards, and values, and vow to do our best not to repeat them, or allow them to be repeated in our name. Wouldn’t it be grand if could learn a lesson, and once learned, it would stay learned? I think Trump is testing us, and our sense of history on that point right today.

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  9. Cressett May 5, 2016

    It is time MSNBC dumped Scar. He has gone too far this time. And he is the most annoying people on TV anyway, a true mediocrity. Give the show to Mika so we don’t have to watch the ritualized sexist putdowns of her every time we tune in.

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  10. John N Florida May 5, 2016

    I have no idea how or why Joe should be shocked.
    He got TO Congress as a Southern Strategy Republican candidate.

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  11. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

    I’m not scared of the rayyyycist label, or labellers. So a fraction of Trump supporters hold some racist beliefs. So f-ing what. Get over it, you children.

    A much larger fraction of BLM dorks passionately, enthusiastically hate whites. So what? I have thick skin. Because I’m an adult.

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    1. jmprint May 5, 2016

      No I will not get over it, I do not want America to be run by white supremacist!

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      1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

        And what do you think will happen when Trump gets elected? He’s going to reimpose segregation? He’s going to establish death camps for non-whites? I read in one of your other comments that you believe people are just waiting to be called to start killing (presumably blacks or Hispanics).

        You’ve got to get real, brother or sister. I’m counting on you. You know very well Trump will not do any of that stuff, he’d be kicked to the curb overnight. We don’t want the crooked, capitulating (during elections) chicken hawk, Hillary Clinton. The entire middle of the country, the majority of our landmass, will not accept her.

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        1. jmprint May 5, 2016

          It’s the followers that are crazy, and more ammunition they don’t need.

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          1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            I know that some of them are crazy, probably at a higher percentage than Sanders or Hillary supporters, but people in this country WILL NOT vote 3rd party, no matter how hard I try to convince them. Gary Johnson, or any other libertarian or independent, would be better than any Democrat or Republican currently running.

            But because of the blasted media spreading the perpetual “X can’t win” nonsense, we’re forced to pick between Hillary and Trump. I would prefer Sanders, but with things the way they are, I extremely reluctantly support Trump. I know that that isn’t any kind of good argument, but it’s kinda what we’re stuck with..

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          2. jmprint May 5, 2016

            No that’s you opinion, I think Hillary is the better of the bunch, way better then Trump for America to be even as great as it is now.

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          3. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            Then when I become supreme dictator of America, I’m going to have to ban political “parties”. You now have to vote for the individual, not the “party”. Because I can’t believe that you think that woman is truly the best person to govern this country. It must be that you’re thinking party first, country second.

            Sorta like “I respect you too much to believe that you believe these crazy things”.

            I felt the exact same way about right wingers claiming that they like Sarah Palin. They must be saying this to provoke us, right?

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          4. jmprint May 5, 2016

            Well just like I can’t believe you think Trump has any substance or is fit to be president. Yes Hillary is a much better candidate for the job. She has experience and knowledge, people learn from their mistake, and she has proven over and over again that she is not closed minded, she is not going to make the same mistake twice. You can all you “I can’t believe, but Trump is a racist, I do not respect those people, not now, not ever. Al he has is a whole lot of I, I, I, me,me, me. I so rich, BS. He can take that to the bankruptcy court any time, but not the white house.

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          5. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            I also do not like Trump. I hope you got that from my 3rd party comments. He’s an egomaniac, but that would surprise no one so I don’t even waste my time saying all the ways he annoys me. His “substance” is “WALL WALL WALL!!!”. For a billionaire, I would swear to you that he never took micro/macro econ in college.

            Still, IMO, I have to say he’s better than Hillary. Out of curiosity have you seen this? The Sanders supporter brings up a ton of good points about Clinton’s lack of foresight and inability to learn from her many, many mistakes. Most importantly her points seem almost 100% objective. I agree with her entire argument but come to a different conclusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD2VO1xqY4g

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          6. jmprint May 5, 2016

            Again another independent that will not vote for Hillary, on lack of trust but it doesn’t bother her at all that not voting will get Trump elected and that is totally against her race, she would rather give the white house to the kkk, it’s her opinion, If she is comfortable with that, it is her prerogative, black live won’t matter.

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          7. Marta Hewitt May 5, 2016

            I am a democratic. Have been the past 4 decades. If the only two reasons to vote for Hillary is her experience or because she’s better than Trump, then those are two of the worst reasons to support her. Her experience is riddled with disastrous mistakes. We can not afford those mistakes. Our top leader should not be someone who has a lot of experience making disastrous mistakes. To support her only because she is better than Trump??? She is the lesser of two evils??? Is she? That is the biggest question that haunts me. I can be pretty certain how disastrous a Clinton presidency will be and to be, most likely, stuck with that for eight years! That scares me. It scares me because of her history of making colossal mistakes. The thing about Trump (I can’t stand him) is that I have no idea what kind of presidency he might have. My guesses are that it will be so crazy that we will be stagnant for four years (nothing gained but nothing destroyed) which is better than Clinton’s destruction. Trump has also spent only 6 years as a republican in the last 17 years. 11 years he was either Democrat (8 years), independent (2 years) or no party affiliation (1 year) so he actually may be more Democrat than we think.

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          8. northstate June 2, 2016

            Trump stands for everything Sanders is against. So, your choice is to vote for a man who does not agree with you. I have noticed that there a few people who post who make the same statement: If I can’t have Sanders, I will vote for Trump. Why not say if you can’t have Sanders you will write in Putin. This might come as shock to you, but democracy is the art of the possible, and it requires compromise. That is how it works. If Sanders does not want to go home to Vermont with a reputation as an angry, bitter old white man who lost his race for the WH, he will do what Hillary Clinton did when she lost the nomination to Obama: she got out and worked for his election. Of course, Sanders just joined the Democratic Party about 5 minutes ago, so he doesn’t care much about the Party he is exploiting for donations and votes. How about those chartered jets to see the Pope and to take his family home to Vermont? Bernie knows he has lost, but he is still taking your money. And, where are those tax returns prepared by Jane? Nixon presented his tax returns when he ran for office, even though he was being audited. Something is fishy with Jane’s returns; I wonder if it is because she received a huge severance package to leave her university position? That would show up, and might make Bernie seem less the “poor man’s” candidate.

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        2. jmprint May 5, 2016

          You are wrong about Hillary, she has more votes, than Sanders or Trump.

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        3. Dana Gossman May 5, 2016

          I am not worried. Congress will shut him down just like they shut down our president now. Then if he gets real racy they will impeach him. He doesn’t have a chance. He will not be calling the shots or he will have to use his own money to build a wAll to separate from United States. Then he will go
          Bankrupt.

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          1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            I agree with you completely. The crazier Trump acts once he’s elected, the further he’ll become functionally alienated. One thing the president has been doing since WWII is starting whatever wars they want with no proper authority, and I think Trump will be less likely to do that then Clinton. He wants closer ties to Russia. He wants other countries to pay for their own defense. He refutes the idea of the US being the world’s police.

            Trump is a dove compared to Hillary and most people supporting her don’t give one damn.

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    2. SandyTodd May 5, 2016

      It’s not his supporters I’m worried about. It’s him. He’s running a campaign based on bigotry and racism. He doesn’t value our basic rights, like freedom of religion and gender equality. HE is the one giving legitimacy to racism. If you’re voting for Trump to put those #blacklivesmatters folks back in their place, well that kind of speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

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      1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

        “If you’re voting for Trump to put those #blacklivesmatters folks back
        in their place, well that kind of speaks for itself, doesn’t it?”

        What are you talking about? Are you beating down a straw man, or did you actually think that’s what I was doing, trying to put the BLM dorks in there place? I said I don’t give a damn about their overt racism against whites, they can’t bother me. I only gave that as an example to demonstrate how adults deal with ideas they disagree with. I respect freedom of religion and not discriminating against women. And out of the major candidates running, I reluctantly support Trump. What am I getting wrong?

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        1. northstate June 2, 2016

          I don’t know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember the Civil Rights Movement; I had friends who left law school to go to Mississippi to register black voters. I remember the Life Magazine cover with the sheriff and his cohorts, the ones who used fire hoses on unarmed marching black people. I remember the three kids from NY who went down South to register voters and disappeared; their bodies were later found in a grave on a construction site; the sheriff and his deputies were known to be involved with that. It was a terrible time; the right to vote was not a right for black taxpaying, working people in the South. It was a right which had to be fought for in a country where voting was a right for all, outside of the South. The KKK was very much involved with violence against black citizens in the South. If you support a candidate who will not reject support from the KKK, you align yourself with a man who is catering to a racist vote, and is unwilling to own it. Trump has also stated that Mexicans are drug dealers, rapists and murderers; now he claims not have said that. I grew up with Mexican kids in the Central Valley; I went to college with some of them. Trump inherited a real estate fortune and went bankrupt four times – four bankruptcies wherein he discharged his debts, and left the people who worked for those companies without jobs. Four times. He has never had a job; he has never worked for a living; he lives on a trust fund managed by professionals. He is not a “businessman”; he is a rich fraud. His unaccredited Trump University with its bogus degrees is about to bite him in the butt. He even lies about his wealth, exaggerates it. He is not a billionaire; he is a multi-millionaire, who is asset poor. As for affirmative action, that is a dead horse; stop beating it. BLM came about due to real, documented persecution of black citizens in certain places; Ferguson was one of those places. The sheriff’s deputies admitted that they ensured their budgets with ticket fines, most of which were gotten from black drivers. Those ticketed who could not pay the fines levied were put in jail. They lost their jobs and drivers’ licenses. There was enough bad stuff going on it made national press. And, it was not defensible. Trump’s racism is not defensible; he is a bigot. I can hardly wait until November is over, and Trump goes back to NYC, a loser. He owns that word.

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    3. Paul Bass May 5, 2016

      “rayyyycist” rayyyycist rayyyycist

      YES, you are some kind of troll rayyyycist! I guess you think this is funny, when actually it just proves that you ARE indeed a RACIST! You are just too nutless to admit it, congrats, we all know it anyway!

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      1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

        Tell me how you know I’m rayyyycist. Typical left-leaner smear. I hope I don’t shock you when I say this, but you don’t know me. Not even a little bit. I happen to know that I’m not a rayyyyycist. I hardly have enough self-esteem to castigate others over some silly crap like skin color.

        Are you going to apologize now by blocking me like the other mindless dork trying to smear me as rayyyyycist? Is that really your only card? You know how weak your arguments are, you don’t fool me.

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        1. Paul Bass May 6, 2016

          Let me use simple words for you, even though it is apparent you are already set in your views.
          I KNOW you are RACIST because of YOUR writings! They are the writings of a racist loon who is so delusional he can’t even see his racism.
          That’s fine, I know to discount your writings as the rants of a yahoo who thinks his opinion is golden. So does everyone else on NM.

          If you want to appear non-racist, stop trying to be “cute” with the “mistyping” it makes you look like an adolescent.

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          1. Luke Skywalker May 6, 2016

            You “KNOW” I’m rayyyyycist like evangelicals KNOW god is real. It’s your stupid faith leading you around on a leash, making you look like a dog.

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          2. Paul Bass May 7, 2016

            Are you 12 years old? Yes, it is obvious to every NORMAL person you are racist AND totally immature. WE know by YOUR RACIST writings, you are proving you are a bigot by your WORDS!
            So your answers are the equal to “I know I am, but what are you.”
            For most of us that went out with middle school, but it is good to know where your mind is.

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          3. Luke Skywalker May 7, 2016

            List my racially offensive or condescending statements. You are a retard who’s dead set on finding rayyyyyycism everywhere you look, it’s that simple. You’ve decided I’m rayyyyyycist on zero evidence and now you won’t walk back that claim, even realizing you have no basis for thinking I’m rayyyyyycist.

            I love how the simpletons here have suggested, condescendingly, that I’m a young person. If I were to reply in turn, I’d have started calling you out much sooner, retard.

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          4. Paul Bass May 7, 2016

            rayyyist, retard, are just two “racist” terms in just your last post, plus your hateful comments about LGBT and liberals.

            So yes, everyone at NM think you are racist.

            And no we did not say you were young, just that you have the emotional maturity of a bully ten year old bigot, Congrats!

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    4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth May 12, 2016

      OK Darth—So you’re happy with racism and take pride in being a racist. Yet, strangely you can’t stay away from the topic of racism even though it grates on your nerves. Now where’s the logic in that?
      Do you have an agenda to enlighten us about the “glory” of racism?

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  12. waggaze May 5, 2016

    The entire nation has known and understood that some of the under educated were flat out racists and KKK, White Arien Brotherhood among other hate groups that not only support Trump but have endorsed him. This will definitely turn more voters against his campaign but thankfully most Americans are smart enough not to support a candidate who won’t revoke racist organizations and racists in general.

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  13. dpaano May 5, 2016

    They haven’t forgotten…..they just don’t want to hear it and refuse to believe it when they DO hear it! Typical of close-minded GOP voters!

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    1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

      Isn’t there a proverb about having such an “open mind” that your mind spills out? Rayyyyycism is a scary scary boogeyman that I’m not afraid of for some peculiar reason. Have you given time to divergent opinions, like those Larry Elder has? Why is the left obsessed with “equality” (except in pro sports) and where very strange people go potty?

      This seems like having such an open mind that it spills out to me, especially when their candidate is a right-wing chicken hawk who changes position on demand, depending on who her audience is. Weren’t her hot sauce stereotypes and “firewall” comments a clear demonstration of rayyyycism ingrained in her mind?

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      1. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

        . . . what the hell was THAT?

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        1. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

          Have anything to say, or was that it?

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          1. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

            Pleanty, but I’m reading dow the thread right now. However, based on what I’m seeg of your posts so far, well, what can I say. If the sheet fits, wear it.

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          2. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            So I’M rayyyyycist now. About what I expected you to say, but I’m so cynical that I was hoping you’d surprise me.

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          3. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

            Dude, you’re the one self identifying. I don’t need to label you, other than to point out that you sound exactly like some of the immature bigots I see posting over on the alt-right sites.

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          4. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            I self-identified as a rayyyyycist? I reminded you of someone else posting things you don’t like on right wing websites? Hopefully you grow up someday so you can have real discussions.

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          5. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

            Oh, good god . . . what are you, 17? Sorry, but silly adolescent troll ignored. Buh Bye!

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          6. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            You called me rayyyyycist, adolescent, immature, troll, etc etc. And now you ignored me, what, to apologize?

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          7. RobertCHastings May 5, 2016

            Either you are blind, deaf, or stupid, or any combination thereof. Your allusions to pro sports and the LGBT bathroom issue in your DENIAL of your bias clearly demonstrates your tone-deafness and blindness to what is going on around you. I am TRYING to give you the benefit of the doubt by not actually coming out and calling you either racist or stupid (or both).

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          8. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

            Why on earth are you feeding this teenage troll?

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          9. Luke Skywalker May 5, 2016

            I’m impressed, you’re only the second person I’ve found in this comment section who is big enough to try to take on my ideas, not just say “u r rayyyycist”. I’m not attacking you or trying to be a smartass, this just happens to be the state of things on the squishy, “look how accepting and gay and progressive I am!!!” left at the moment.

            I gave those examples you seemingly take issue with to demonstrate that there is no such thing as “equality”. That exists in the mind, not in the world. We don’t put vertically challenged people in the NBA to then feel good about how good we are, and congregate so we can all give each other awards that say how good we are at being good to poor, disadvantaged short people (facetious example). We DO give priority to blacks and Hispanics over whites and Asians for college admission. That’s very EQUAL of us, hooray!

            Do you care to reply on Hillary’s “rayyyycist” hot sauce stereotypes and “firewall” comments? That happens to be the meat of my comment. She says legitimately racist crap while Trump catches hell for less.

            And ignore Siegfriedchicken down there, he’s just upset that he didn’t have any real arguments against me once I rejected his phony ones.

            /ramble

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          10. The lucky one May 8, 2016

            I can’t say whether you are racist but the snide comments about LGBT people clearly shows that you are a bigot.

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      2. Joan May 6, 2016

        I think that the left, or liberals are concerned about equality because to paraphrase equality denied to one is equality denied to all. If we do not have equal rights then we have rights that are ephemeral. I support the rights of those very ” strange people” as a protection of my own rights which you seem to be willing to enfringe on a whim. Or it might be that darn Christian thing ( the Jesus Christian, not that thing that the radical right calls Christianity). You remember the judge not bit, the do unto others stuff and the not casting stones part; pretty much all of what is actually attributed to Christ himself.

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        1. charleo1 May 6, 2016

          Well said. Although it should not be Conservative vs. Liberal thing. This protecting of minorities Civil Rights in order to preserve the Rights of all. Have we learned nothing? This advocation of unmooring the fundamental protections under the law of these people here, or that group over there. The idea that doing so will never serve as precedent, or become an excepted rationale of how other groups might be singled out. Is to blindly discount the probability that to do so, will one day undermine the very premise on which the Constitution itself is based.

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          1. Joan May 6, 2016

            It should not be, however I was responding to a question, Why are liberals so concerned about equality? Asked without expectation of a cogent response by “Luke Skywalker”.

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      3. charleo1 May 6, 2016

        We’ve really got to watch that open mind stuff. All manner of facts might fall in, and then, the head being so hard and airtight, literally explodes off the shoulders….

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      4. The lucky one May 8, 2016

        First off, I pretty much agree with your “right-wing chicken hawk” characterization of HRC. But you seriously missed the point on “Why is the left obsessed with “equality” (except in pro sports) and where very strange people go potty?” In pro sports ability and performance dictates success not family inheritance, political connections or laws skewed to favor those at the top. It is a clear example of equal opportunity at least for the stars. It is still easier to hang on in the NBA as a marginal white player than for a black person at the same skill level in some cities at least. It is the right wingers that are concerned about where people “go potty”

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    2. charleo1 May 5, 2016

      What they are is cowardly dishonest weasels. That deny those things that are politically inconvenient, or embarrassing to confess. Or say their opinion is, (after much dodging, and ducking, hemming, and hawing, stuttering, and stammering. Is to defer, “that,” whatever that uncomfortable, indefensible, or obviously looney tune stance might be, to the glorious States.

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  14. yabbed May 5, 2016

    Rob Reiner speaks the truth about Trump and racism. Trump’s refusal to disavow the KKK and white supremacist groups fairly assigns Trump’s own racism.

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  15. Joan May 5, 2016

    Joe Scarbrough, former representative from FLORIDA, is shocked that there is a significant racist population in America. I had no idea that Joe was blind and deaf. I still don’t like him and his arrogance but I will have to develop some compassion for him, given his serious developmental challenges. Wow, who knew!

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    1. Siegfried Heydrich May 5, 2016

      Central Florida (up the US 27 corridor) and the panhandle is Klan country. Or, as we call it here ‘southern Alabama’.

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      1. Beethoven May 6, 2016

        I live in Alabama, and many of the people I know and associate with are racists, though they will not admit it. And many of them are Trump supporters.

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  16. Kurt CPI May 5, 2016

    The article is disingenuous. Reiner’s implication is that if someone supports Trump they are racist. He bases that, as do all of the “racist” propagandists, on the notion that border security equates to racism. The truth is that a few Trump supporters are indeed racist. Unfortunately the conservative model is more enabling to that faction than a more leftist philosophy. Mainstream Trump supporters can’t prevent racists from supporting their candidate. But to suggest that they are somehow joined at the hip is pure spin. Most Trump supporters have analyzed the current state of affairs and have thrown their support to Trump because his economic, trade, and general fiscal policies suddenly make sense, where the party-line (either party) strategies clearly only lead to the decline of the US as an economic, and ultimately influential, world leader. I call BS on Rob Reiner and this article.

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    1. Paul Bass May 8, 2016

      No we base our beliefs on your WORDS! If you spout out racists words with every comment you ARE a RACIST! Quit trying to justify your bigotry. If Donald’s supporters are spewing racist comments, then INDEED they are racist!

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      1. Kurt CPI May 8, 2016

        OK, to show just how much of an indoctrinated zealot you are, quote me the “racist” words in my post that you are referring to.

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        1. Charles Winter May 8, 2016

          Sorry, if you support a candidate who bases much of his campaign on racism, you are a racist.

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          1. Kurt CPI May 8, 2016

            Here we go again. I emphatically do NOT support Trump. Never said I did, never made a single statement as far as supporting him as a presidential candidate. But I know LOTS of people who do. They are working-class people who are tired of the politics of the two parties. You might step back from your lofty position of moral superiority long enough to actually LISTEN to the people who support Trump. The ones I know are no racists. These are people who have awakened to their alarm clocks every morning for 30 years, worked when they’re sick, never taken a dime of public assistance, but can’t afford to send their kids to college even though the people down the street on public assistance live in housing, eat food, and attend higher education institutes on the backs of the working class, They have seen their jobs leave the country, their industries shut down by regulation. All the while their “fair share” has risen such that they barely make ends meet. There’s NOTHING racist about ANY of those things. Even if they believe that cheap imported labor is holding their wages down, that’s not a RACIST belief. Believing that preventing foreigners from entering the country illegally and driving down their wages is a bad thing, whether they’re right or not, is not a RACIST belief, it’s en economic one. And they have every right to be upset when a government that continues to demand more of the fruits of their labor chooses to ignore immigration law. These are honest, noble, hard-working people who don’t care what race their neighbors are, indeed work alongside people of all races. They are pragmatic and have watched as the policies of BOTH parties has reduced them to government drones, and their support for Trump is their way of saying they’ve had enough.

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          2. northstate June 2, 2016

            The beginning of the end for the working class started when Reagan broke unions. The end came with the Bush/Cheney administration when corporations were allowed to move their headquarters off shore to avoid taxes and to ship their jobs overseas. Manufacturing in America disappeared to China. That was the end of the working class. We now have a “service” class, and even that has been off shored to call centers in India and the Philippines. There needs to be funding for retraining for those who can benefit from that. It is disingenuous to imply that Trump is the answer. Trump has imported Romanians to work on his FL estate; he refuses to hire local, qualified Mexican construction workers who are citizens of the U.S. Perhaps he really believes that Mexican citizens are all rapists, murderers and drug dealers. Perhaps, but I think not. I think he brings in foreign workers he can exploit. FYI: My father managed a big can manufacturing plant in the Central Valley; he worked with unions and preferred that to non-union workers. Unions had designated reps who spoke for the workers, and agreements made were honored. The workers were well paid, and had benefits. They were able to lead middle class lives with home ownership and enough money to save for their kids to go to college.

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          3. Kurt CPI June 3, 2016

            I agree with much of what you are saying. First, a couple of points. The “service” industry produces nothing. A service that is paid for may or may not lead to some other economic upturn. But either way, once a service has been rendered its value as a commodity vanishes. My dad was a partner in a plumbing and heating business. He and all of the employees were union workers. So I have no grievances against the unions. Finally, provide training for what? There’s no one hiring in America!

            OK. Reagan indeed began the process that has led to what we now call inversion. Bush the elder did far more damage in that regard. But these “trade” policies also continued to ramp up under Clinton, and Hillary supports this mindset as well. Both WJ Clinton and GW Bush saw seemingly huge economic growth as US profits soared along with real estate prices, and equity values rode the wave. In both cases, the ceiling was hit and the bubble burst as all bubbles must. Throughout that period our trade deficit has grown steadily while our production of durable goods has waned terribly. We now export raw materials like a third world country. 50 years ago that would have been considered near treason. Now it’s sanctioned policy. As manufacturing leaves our shores, it’s no stretch to understand that we now have to import what we used to produce. Lost jobs, lost tax revenues compound with this to produce a debt-financed economy with no end in sight. Debt is fine to a point, but not when it equals 40%+ of GDP. Add to that the cost of social programs to sustain our out-of-workforce, the enormous growth in the size of government (some estimates have 70% of the working population receiving their wages and/or revenues from government employment, government contracts, grants, purchases (GSA), allocations and entitlements). And because the government needs 2 to 4 dollars of input to generate 1 dollar of production…. Do you see the insanity? Trump is the only candidate who even acknowledges that the problem exists. The others either think or pretend to think that all is well with this system, or in the case of Sanders, have unfounded and unrealistic plans to deliberately take us further down the road to ruin.

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  17. dbeall May 5, 2016

    Bob Reiner is being way too polite The Media is inept (particularly Scarborough) – here is the Math http://stupidpartymathvmyth.com/1/post/2016/05/trump-win-nomination-via-67-percent-stupid.html

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    1. Daniel Jones May 6, 2016

      No, man–they’re complicit.

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  18. charleo1 May 6, 2016

    I’ll start to believe we’re turning away from racism, when the Alabama Legislature votes to change the name of the Edmund Pettus bridge in Selma. A Civi Rights monument still shamefully named after an unremarkable Confederate Brigadier General, is for me symbolic of just how little the South has changed in the 150 years since the War.

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  19. PapaRonn May 8, 2016

    I’m glad Rob didn’t allow Joe to talk over him. Whenever there is someone on his show that brings out Trump, Joe changes the subject. He and Mika are the biggest Trump supporters outside of the FOX network. Joe is republican to the core,he brings up Hillary’s e-mails more than the news people.Rob did what most people don’t get to do,Joe constantly tries to joke out of the subject or over talk people ,that’s why I have tuned to CNN in the morning,at least they stick to the tough question.

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  20. LCR78 May 8, 2016

    Joe Scarborough got an answer from Reiner that he didn’t like. Why is it okay for Trump to out and out lie and not be challenged on Morning Joe but it isn’t okay for Reiner to express an opinion that at least has a basis in fact? Also, why isn’t Scarborough shocked everyday with each new lie from Trump?

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  21. Sundance98 May 8, 2016

    *Saw Rob on Bill Maher last week. He said Trump was simply a loud mouth, trash talking, liar and sack of potatoes. We can’t wait to see how many “F Bombs” come
    out of Dfrump….(his original German Family name) before everyone pulls the lever
    in November! To date myself: Trump is “such a creep and clod!”. Racists? That
    would depend upon who he was with. Anyone YOU hate – he hates! And he just
    got into politics nine months ago – hard to believe?

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  22. Irishgrammy May 8, 2016

    This is one of the very reasons I don’t watch Morning Joe anymore. Scarborough’s bloviating faux outrage and Mika’s mealy mouth response is more than I can take that early in the morning…not a way to start the day! Trumps announcement to run for the presidency was clear and in your face with bigoted xenophobia and he has peppered every rally I have watched since TV stations ad nauseam coverage of his disgusting events where he repeats his BS and adds to it with encouragement for beating “those people” or anyone else he deems needs a licking…..along with disparaging Muslims, on, and on, and on. I am trying to think of one ethnic, race or group Trump hasn’t attacked, demeaned, bullied, blamed or insulted and can’t think of one, well maybe Eskimos…..Am sure it’s just a matter of time……….What keeps resounding in my head was Chief Justice Roberts stating that “racism was no longer an issue in this country” when he agreed with the majority on gutting Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act…….I keep wondering what planet did he just arrive from……..I am 70 + years old and I haven’t seen race relations this bad since the late fifties, early sixties with the Republican Party encouragement of divisive politics and a Donald J. Trump candidacy exploiting their hard work of racial politics to gain voting share!……And it was done DELIBERATELY for cynical reasons by the Republican Party to our shame…..But now the GOP is in turmoil with the result of their Frankenstein monster, Trump…….REALLY?????

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  23. Thomas Martin May 8, 2016

    Message to the JOE CREW: How ignorant can you be? Thanks for all you have done to stupidify the electorate. You are truly failures in the journalism profession. Peace and flowers in the universal flow of life. Enjoy the future.

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