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U.S. President Barack Obama delivers a statement after the Supreme Court left in place a lower court ruling blocking his plan to spare millions of illegal immigrants from deportation and give them work permits, at the White House in Washington, U.S., June 23, 2016. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday tried to limit the fallout from Britain’s vote to leave the European Union, which threatens to harm the U.S. economic recovery, derail his trade agenda and distract U.S. allies from global security issues.

Obama said he was sure Britain’s exit from the EU would be orderly and vowed that Washington would maintain both its “special relationship” with London and close ties to Brussels.

“While the UK’s relationship with the EU will change, one thing that will not change is the special relationship that exists between our two nations. That will endure,” he told an event at Stanford University, referring to close ally Britain. “The EU will remain one of our indispensable partners,” Obama said.

He spoke to outgoing British Prime Minister David Cameron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel after the stunning result of Thursday’s referendum, the biggest blow to the European project of greater unity since World War Two.

Obama vowed that the United States and Britain would “stay focused on ensuring economic growth and financial stability.”

The Brexit result rattled Wall Street and many other financial markets, with global stock markets losing about $2 trillion in value on Friday.

Obama had warned during a visit to London in April against Brexit, or Britain’s exit from the EU, in an unusually strong intervention into British politics.

“I must say we had looked for a different outcome. We would have preferred a different outcome,” U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, traveling in Ireland, said on Friday.

The historic divorce launched by the Brexit vote could sink hopes of a massive U.S.-EU free trade deal before Obama leaves office in January.

Negotiations on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, or TTIP, were already stalled by deeply entrenched differences and growing anti-trade sentiment on both continents.

As well as the global economic consequences, Brexit makes it more difficult for Obama and the United States to corral its Western allies into joint action against challenges such as Islamic State, Russia and the rise of China, as the Democrat enters the final months of his presidency.

Britain’s exit could present the next U.S. president with a decision on whether to turn to other key European partners like Germany and France, essentially downgrading the United States’ special bond with Britain, whose foundation was laid in World War Two.

Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, called on Washington’s partners in Europe to keep their eye on foreign policy threats.

“We must maintain our trans-Atlantic consensus on how to deal with a resurgent Russia and the growing threat of ISIS,” he said. “I urge leaders in London, Brussels and across Europe to not lose sight of these threats and remain coordinated in our response.”

THE TRUMP FACTOR

The U.S. presidential election candidates are casting an eye across the Atlantic at the unlikely success of Britain’s “Leave” campaign, which has similarities with Republican Donald Trump’s insurgent bid for the Nov. 8 election.

Trump’s rise was sustained by a similar brew of anti-establishment and anti-globalization sentiment and concern about immigration that helped the Leave vote.

“This is a protest vote against globalization and there is one presidential candidate who won the nomination who has put globalization in his crosshairs – and that’s Donald Trump,” Republican strategist John Feehery said.

Biden, in remarks prepared for a speech at Dublin Castle, took a swipe at Trump without mentioning him by name. He warned against “politicians and demagogues peddling xenophobia, nationalism, and isolationism.”

Brexit supporter Trump called the result a “great thing.” “People want to take their country back. They want to have independence in a sense. You see it with Europe, all over Europe,” Trump, 70, said in Turnberry, Scotland where he reopened a golf course.

Obama hopes his former secretary of state Hillary Clinton will win the November election and safeguard his legacy but economic volatility in the United States after Brexit could hurt her chances of beating Trump.

In response to Britain’s decision to leave, Clinton said the United States must first safeguard against any economic fallout at home at “this time of uncertainty” and underscore its commitment to both Britain and Europe.

The U.S. Federal Reserve sought to calm global financial markets by saying it was ready to provide dollar liquidity following the British vote.

After Brexit, the U.S. central bank’s ambitions for two rate rises this year now look unlikely. Traders of U.S.-interest rate futures even began to price in a small chance of a Fed rate cut, and now see little chance of any hike until the end of next year.

“One can forget about rate hikes in the near term,” said Thomas Costerg, New York-based economist at Standard Chartered Bank. “What I’m worried about is that the Brexit vote could be the straw that breaks the back of the U.S. growth picture.”

(Additional reporting by Doina Chiacu and Ayesha Rascoe in Washington,; Writing by Alistair Bell; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Bill Rigby)

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  1. itsfun June 25, 2016

    Anyone notice how the writer of this article managed to put Donald Trump’s age in the article, but completely ignored Hillary’s age?

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    1. ralphkr June 25, 2016

      Now that you mentioned it, itsfun, I noticed that the author did not mention Obama’s age, or Cameron’s, Merkel’s, Biden’s, Cardin’s, or Costerg’s ages either. I must admit that I am surprised every time I see Trump’s age listed at 70 since his speeches & thought processes are those of a spoiled two to four year old while he appears much older than 70.

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      1. itsfun June 25, 2016

        Say what you want about him, but he is a very successful businessman. My point was Hillary is 68, but you never see her age listed in these type of articles. Some writers will do anything they can to put Trump in a bad light.

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        1. ralphkr June 25, 2016

          Riiiight, itsfun, Trump is a successful businessman in the same way that Carly Fiorina was a successful businesswoman. In case you missed the news back then, Fiorina collected over $100 million while lowering the value of HP stock by 50%. The day after she was fired HP stock went up nearly 7%.

          In my opinion, successful businessmen do not make their fortunes by walking away with their loot from bankruptcies they have caused and/or running scams on people or refusing to pay bills. That is just legalized criminal acts.

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        2. Independent1 June 25, 2016

          Trump’s a successful business man in just the same manner as Al Capone was a successful gangster. Donald Trump never earned an honest dime in his life. Every bit of the money Trump has has been earned via some form of shady dealings. Hiring foreign workers under the table that he could pay next to nothing; conning investors into known fake projects that he could leave them holding the bag on while he pocketed millions; refusing to pay countless numbers of sub contracts for the work they’d done so he could keep more money in his pocket; and on and on.

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          1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            but at least AL killed you so you didn’t have to stay alive and suffer from getting screwed with DONNY DUMP he like to laugh at you after while your still alive (of course thinking that hew might be able to screw you again some time some how )

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          2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            Every bit of the money Trump has has been earned via some form of shady dealings. Hiring foreign workers under the table that he could pay next to nothing; //// but DONNY DUMP would rather (even and more so for people that live off crumbs ) wait till thy do the work and get the product then screw them by not paying them

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          3. charleo1 June 26, 2016

            Sure, but none of that matters. So what should that tell us about the mental state of the Right Wingers at this time? In the words of my thick as fence post, Mexican heritage, brother in law, “I don’t care what you say, I’m voting for Trump!” And they don’t! They don’t care what he says now, vs. what he’s said in the past. Or about his shady deals, his bankruptcies the taxpayers paid for, the jobs he’s outsourced, the illegals he’s hired, the taxes he’s dodged, the outright scams he’s perpetrated, none of it. That’s what we’re faced with. It boggles the mind!

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          4. Independent1 June 26, 2016

            Yes! It’s hard to explain how today’s right-wingers think; it’s like they have something wrong with wiring of their brains. There’s really no rhyme or reason to why they not only think as they do but are willing to actually openly lie in trying to justify what they believe so as not to lose face (I think even to themselves). When you present them with facts that counter their misguided notion, they simply refuse to accept the fact that they were wrong in what they misguidedly believed.

            I think all we can do is take heart with at least one of the latest polls which somewhat shows that at least some non-Republicans are starting to wake up and realize that Trump is not qualified to be president.

            See this article if you haven’t seen it:

            Clinton Opens 12-Point Lead on Trump as Two-Thirds See Him as Biased (POLL)

            Hillary Clinton surged to a broad advantage against Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, capitalizing on Trump’s recent campaign missteps. Two-thirds of Americans see him as biased against groups such as women, minorities or Muslims, and a new high, 64
            percent, call Trump unqualified to serve as president.

            https://gma.yahoo.com/clinton-opens-12-point-lead-trump-two-thirds-130147301–abc-news-topstories.html#

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          5. charleo1 June 27, 2016

            I’ll say this, if Trump is elected after all. I’ll need to admit that after my 62 years, I don’t know this Country anymore. Because the America I know is not a majority racist, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, or anti-separation of church, and state country. Whereby there is adopted a public policy of discrimination being upheld on the basis of religious freedom, or national security, or any such principle as a matter of law. That simply does not happen in a Country I’ve always personally considered, in spite of it’s flaws, the greatest on Earth. But, I agree it is sobering to consider the awful possibilities, if not probabilities, represented by Trump and his ilk actually winning the nomination of a very powerful Republican apparatus. Do you think that’s why they call us Americans brave? Or America the home of the brave? (Or stupid) Every 4 years in the interests of democracy, and politics, we put the bullet in the chamber, spin it, put it to our collective heads, and hope for the best.

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          6. Independent1 June 27, 2016

            Kind of an interesting way to look at our presidential elections – as Russian Roulette!! We live dangerously!!

            You might be cheered up a little by recent results from an NBC/WSJ poll that was published today by NewsMax:

            WSJ/NBC Poll: Majority of Republicans Want Someone Other Than Trump

            Only 45 percent of Republican voters say they are satisfied with presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll.

            Ideology and education are one of the key factors for liking Trump in the GOP, according to the poll. By a 53 percent-to-45 percent margin, conservative Republicans say they want somebody other than Trump. Moderates are split 49 percent to 49 percent. Meanwhile, 58 percent of Republicans with a high-school education or less are satisfied with Trump. But 60 percent of Republicans with a college degree want someone else.

            The poll reports that 55 percent of all registered voters said that what they had seen, read and heard about Trump over the last couple of weeks had given them a less favorable view of the real-estate mogul. Just 20 percent had a more favorable view.

            Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/poll-republicans-majority-want/2016/06/27/id/735917/#ixzz4CqJuXLXM

            So maybe only about 20% of GOP lovers are the real crazies???

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          7. charleo1 June 28, 2016

            They say I get too dramatic, and they’re probably right. Nice job of bringing me back to Planet Earth. But I do worry though. About what is happing to our Country long term, and when this insanity will reach it’s limitations. About seven years ago this started in earnest when the T-Party, a reincarnation of the fringe John Birch Society showed up, I thought the Right then was plumbing the depths of credulity as to what any reasonably literate society would accept. That if this fact devoid nuttiness proceeded any farther, they would surely pay a stiff political price, and that would be that.
            Not so. By Jan. 2011, the unhinged nut job Righties had not only taken back the House, but nearly half the Governorships. And most of those handed unstoppable, or nearly unstoppable majorities. For all intent and purpose aligning nearly half the Country against a Party, and President that had just spent the last two years steering us thru the most dangerous economic crisis since the Great Depression, unwinding Bush’s Iraq blunder, and finally instituting a national health program. Something Presidents Left and Right have sought to do since Harry Truman. We used to reelect success like that by landslides. So what is happing? Are we all watching the same set of events?

            And this new bunch was toxic. Idiotic nonsense extremists that obviously sought power by any means. Willing to do the unthinkable on a daily basis. They made Newt Gingrich seem like a shrinking violet by comparison. And I thought surely now, when the Country loving common sense heartland sees what these anarchists are about, they will quickly turn from their hasty stroll on the fringe of insanity, and return to a more traditional, even, dare I hope, a contrite Conservatism. Not so. Now the nuts were running the asylum, and crazier, and Apocalyptic as ever. Spewing spittle because the entire gov. wouldn’t bow to their know nothing reps. like that yahoo from FL. who said, “I think defaulting on the debt would help the economy.” Well, what the hell do they want anyway? I could not find neither a leader, nor a single T-Party adherent anywhere that knew, or would say. Their Country back, whatever that vacuous little ditty meant. They seemed wiling to literally run the Country into the ground to get it. Talk to them, they’re programed Zombies! This must end soon I thought, look at the damage!

            Not enough. The evidence so far shows, not nearly enough. Trump’s winning the GOP nomination, if it means anything sends a clear signal that the Right’s lurch into the abyss beats anything we’ve ever witnessed in our lifetimes. And, was not so much a lurch as a trek they are determined in large numbers to continue up to the cliff’s edge and beyond.

            Black. How black is their World? When one has lost their faith in every institution that encompasses the structures upon which they believe their very lives depend. The intellectuals often describe the RW base as frustrated. When in fact they have been panic stricken out of their wits. And Trump has their number. He not only confirms their worst nightmares. Finally someone has the courage, as they see it. But Trump builds on them, and promises to do those things that might seem radical to some, but are absolutely necessary in their minds, to save the Country, save their existence. And if Hillary is elected, it’s all over! Just like they said of Obama, and it didn’t happen, it don’t matter. Hillary means doom! Everything they’ve come to believe confirms that.
            So Donald, no matter his nonsense wall, his horrid deportation promises, the Muslim ban, or his complete lack of temperament, and qualification. All that being true, doesn’t matter to the larger 47% of the electorate who vote Republican ticket, if the alternative is known to be the appointment of perhaps (3) Supreme Court Judges, and dozens of lower court Federal appellate judges that have been put on hold, while positions have been stacking up due
            to a McDonnell run Senate’s refusal to hold confirmation hearings.

            All this does nothing but empower the radical nut jobs, who’s votes are essential if there is any hope for continuing to reconfigure the legal landscape to facilitate the agenda of that all important donor class the Republican Right relies on to be a political power. It is a also a basic symbiotic relationship that has the direct opposite of everything they claim to be to their poorly educated, outrageously propagandized, and conspiracy prone base. A tenuous situation not lost on candidate Trump. Which has shown himself willing to shake the GOP Est. to it’s core, by pointing it out in personal terms. And most of the establishment party groups are scared to death to speak out against him. What a tangled web!
            And my greatest concern: What will the next Trump, the next insane demagogue look like? And what will he say that the unhinged Right will immediately make their do, or wreck the Country trying, objective? This is the “Russian Roulette,” image I can’t get out of my head.

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          8. Independent1 June 28, 2016

            Great recap!! It is really scary that there seem to be so many totally deluded people living in America today who have totally wacko ideas about reality. It’s like there’s some hallucinogens in the water all across the nation that are causing a large portion of Americans to live in fantasy land. People who visualize and are willing to support an agenda that would have been considered totally insane, at least back when you and I were growing up.

            I wish I knew what the answer was. I know I get very emotional and sometimes carried away with my responses to right-wing bloggers here who as far as I’m concerned are hellbent on destroying our country. I have far too many descendants who still have a long time to live in America, and I’m virtually terrified that these wacko nut cases like Trump and his extreme-right supporters will actually get a chance to destroy their lives like they’re already doing for millions of Americans they consider worthless because they’re not part of the upper 20%.

            What’s really confusing to me, is that if these nut job right-wing bloggers on the NM are not part of the upper 20%, what kind of hallucinogens are they one to be so rabid in supporting an ideology that is working hard to send them even into the pits of homelessness. Is it possible these rabid right-wingers are actually part of the upper 20% of income earners and are too clueless to realize that the upper 1% are actually trying to turn them into nothing more than peons themselves???

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          9. charleo1 June 28, 2016

            Great post. My thoughts stated better than I stated them! And it’s exactly when I think of my grandkids, that I get the most emotional in opposing an agenda I am certain aims to snatch away all their hopes and young aspirations, at a time when they are really too young to understand. A time they need, and deserve our protection.

            As to these Right Wingers who come on here spouting their cocksure devotion to a group of sharks that think of them like something they would scrap off the bottom of their $600.00 Italian Loafers. These turkeys voting for Christmas, as James Carvel describes them. Deserve our pity as much as our scorn. Because, by and large they are no where near part of that 10% that own 1/2 the wealth. But in reality are victims as much as anything of cleverly crafted narratives put thru a highly coordinated multi million dollar propaganda operation that comes at them day and night. Often out of the mouths of some of the most charismatic personalities, and religious leaders in the business. The old adage like taking candy from babies is now applied on an industrial scale. So much so, that on my more pessimistic days I’m convinced in the end, the country will be forced to go there with them, suffer the consequences, and perhaps then? Then, I’m reminded by saner people like yourself, that the numbers, the demographics, and traditions of this remarkable Country do not support my despair. That I’m in danger of getting as Apocalyptic-isk as the Wingers. Now there’s a cold slap in the face! Just what I need every once in a while.

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        3. charleo1 June 26, 2016

          Trump was at least as successful a businessman as George Bush was a President. Both having previously run numerous endeavors into the ground, before the Country gave Bush a whack at the whole country, and let him work his magic there. Probably by assuming, like I’m sure many do of Trump, that because he was rich, he must be smart. So how is that theory working out?

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          1. itsfun June 26, 2016

            Whether anyone wants to admit it or not Trump is a very successful businessman. How many families have been able to buy homes, cars, feed their families, etc because of jobs he created? Trump is not stupid like you want to say. How many jobs has Hillary created. She is keeping some FBI criminal investigators working though.

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          2. charleo1 June 26, 2016

            As Trump himself admits, he’s taken advantage of the pro corporate, big money rigged system. Then, justifies it, as “something any, “businessman would have done.” Which is undoubtedly true. But it doesn’t make him smart, and certainly not a hero of the working class. On par, I’d say he’s one corporate parasite, the hard working family people of this country would have been better off without.

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          3. itsfun June 26, 2016

            If a President does not know enough about the economy to create jobs, then we have a big problem. A President can make a good environment for jobs and industry, or a President can over regulate until business people quit hiring and spending money to develop new products. When companies do not create jobs or spend their money because they don’t know what regulations or how many new one will be made, then we get depressions. The President has a lot to do with job creation or job killing. I wish we had wise leadership, then we could all that you want. The founding fathers were creating a new nation and were wise enough to know that big government is a bad thing. The 10th amendment was created to keep the federal government small. It specifically said that anything not covered in the Constitution was the responsibility of the individual states. Now our government is mandating what our kids can eat for lunch in schools. Education should be the responsibility of the states, not the feds. Our elected officials are only interested in their own power and how much money they can make. Just look at how much they are worth when elected, then look at their worth after being in public office for just one term. Its not about public service, its about getting rich.

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          4. charleo1 June 27, 2016

            There’s just a whole lot wrong with your perception of what the government’s role should be. First of all, if creating jobs is your standard, Democrats are the champs by far, going back a 100 years! And no one can honestly say too much reg, caused the housing bubble/collapse, and the worst recession in 80 years. It was the lack of gov, oversight, and loosening of the rules, and cash on hand requirements that allowed the over leveraging, and enormous amounts of speculative debt. Just as no one can say the deep water horizon, the worst man made environmental disaster in history, or the Flint lead crisis was caused by over reg. It is a fundamental role of government to ride herd over business in order to keep the crooks out, the honest people in, and to be on the side of the consumer. If not the gov, then who? When that doesn’t happen. Like when big money interests are able to buy gov. and intimidate good public servants, then write their own rules, the economy suffers, and, as we have seen, we all lose.
            Now, if the all of the States had shown themselves to be capable of maintaining high standards of education, and willing to fund their educational institutions. Or, had a history not intent on segregating their schools, and dozens of other irresponsible stunts motivated by political, and philosophical bent. Like defunding public education in order to funnel tax dollars to corporate, or religious schools, while lowering standards, and accountability.
            Then, you might have a point, But here again, which entity is ultimately charged with setting the overall standards? At which level of gov. must the buck stop? In the already here globally interconnected, tech heavy future, it’s simply not fair to MS. kids to put them in competition with kids from richer States with more wherewithal, and higher standards. There simply must be uniform ed. standards, and the Federal Gov, must set them, and enforce them. Sorry States Righters. Welcome to the future. There’s no going back, nor should we ever go backwards against our own best interests. That was never the intent of The Constitution.

            As to depressions, and recessions: They have occurred in modern Capitalists economies such as ours, whenever demand for goods and services declines, causing contractions in the labor markets. Thus lowering wages, prices, and profits, increasing unemployment, leading to further cuts in production, and more labor market contractions.
            There is nothing in there that logically says loosening regulations to provide lower quality or dangerous products to the consumer will help put the unemployed back to work. Or help in any way in the development of new, safer, or more effective products. Any more than claiming cutting a community’s police force will help small businesses hire more employees. It’s simply on the big business wish list. “If we didn’t need to wait until the concrete hardens, and dries, we could be drilling and making money yesterday.” Said BP. at he Deep Horizon oil rig. If no one checks, which as it turned out no one was, we get what we got. Not more jobs, but thousands of jobs impacted, and billions of dollars lost.

            And the cynicism, against gov. against public institutions. against public officials, both elected, and appointed. Where does it come from? Who profits from it? And where does it get anyone? If we were to say, I don’t trust restaurant inspectors. They are only in it for the gov. perks, and bribe money. Then where do you take your family? And how do all those honest waiters, cooks, and owners make a living? If all businesses always did the right thing, there would be no need for gov. regulation, and inspections. Maybe as some suggest, we should just keep the gov, out of it, and let business regulate itself. Then, all the worry about new regulations would go away, and investors would feel euphoric about the certainty, and that would provide great jobs! Do you really believe that? Where are you going to eat, and feel good about taking your kids, or elderly Aunt? If no one is watching the store outside of the guy who makes more profit by cutting corners, and cleaning every other day, or turning his coolers down to save on his electric bill?

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          5. itsfun June 27, 2016

            not what I was saying. I said government needs to make the environment good for business to create jobs. Over regulation and high fees cause job loss. Flint problem was cause by State employees not doing their jobs. People have to protected from things like lead in their water. Whether it is a state government or federal responsibility is stated in our Constitution. The 10th amendment says that anything not covered by the constitution is the responsibility of the states. That is how you determine where the buck stops. The housing problem was created by the federal government, when Barney Frank and his buddies demanded that banks give mortgages to people that couldn’t pay for their mortgage. People got their loans with a low interest rate, when the bubble came due, they couldn’t pay. The banks went along with the federal government and then took the blame when the feds program proved to be a disaster. No one is saying we don’t need law enforcement, highways and bridges being built and helping those that can’t help their selves. The government need to stay away telling a business man how to run his business. We have people that have never met a payroll or had employees telling the people that have done that how to do it.

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          6. charleo1 June 27, 2016

            No, not even the Republican are saying Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd caused the collateralized debt bubble. Learn, and you will be set free. Close your eyes, and except the excuses, and alibis of the thieves, liars, and con-men, that perpetrated the scam, and they will own you. “The banks went along with the Federal Gov. then took the blame when the Feds program proved to be a disaster.” Really? With the former head of Goldman Sachs serving as treasury head? With Wall Street owning Washington as they do? How can ye of so little faith in your elected gov. turn and take the word of those unelected lawyers writing the laws being adopted by a corrupted, and paid off Congress? How is this possible without mind bending propaganda? Without turning reality, and common sense on it’s head? And yet, here you are, no doubt a man of comparatively modest means, going to bat for the billionaires, and multi national banking industry, Who kept their winnings on the up side of the bubble, even as they publicized their losses on the downside. Poor little rich boy, mean old Barney Frank. Isn’t that the joke that was going around?

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          7. Independent1 June 28, 2016

            You’re spewing a failed notion that government regulations cost jobs and are a real problem for business. A group that represents many small businesses says that is simply not so – regulations are a minor nuisance for businesses and generally are not job cutters to a great degree.

            And here’s an article from Bloomberg which claims that regulations often create as many new jobs as people claim they cost:

            From Bloomberg:

            Regulations Create Jobs, Too – Vilified on the campaign trail, government rules often create as many jobs as they kill.

            http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-02-09/regulations-create-jobs-too

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        4. Independent1 June 26, 2016

          And part of it could be because people understand that women on average live 5 years longer than men; so realistically, Hillary has a 7 year age advantage on Trump: she’s two years younger with a 5 year longer life expectancy (she’s expected to live to 81; Trump only to 76).

          See this from USA Today:

          Life expectancy in the USA rose in 2012 to 78.8 years – a record high.

          That was an increase of 0.1 year from 2011 when it was 78.7 years, according to a new report on mortality in the USA from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics.

          The news is a little better for women, a little worse for men. Life
          expectancy for females is 81.2 years; for males, it’s 76.4 years. That difference of 4.8 years is the same as in 2011.

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/us-life-expectancy-hits-record-high/16874039/

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    2. Otto T. Goat June 26, 2016

      Most people are surprised Trump is older than Hillary.

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  2. greenlantern1 June 25, 2016

    The CHUNNEL remains a remarkable engineering feat!
    It was built on economic cooperation between Britain and Europe!
    Now what??

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  3. FT66 June 25, 2016

    Britain pulling out of EU is not a major thing. Ever since they isolated themselves to join other European countries. According to history books there was something known as EEC (European Economic Community) which turned to be called EC. EEC consisted of only five countries: West Germany, France,Italy, Netherlands and Belgium. (just google European Economic Community and you will get the real picture). During the sixties, the then France President called Charles de Gaulle vetoed Britain to join the Community. It was mainly because of selfishness and Britain refusing to change to “Metric System” they stuck up to now in using: pints, miles, pounds and not kilos etc. etc. The EEC did very well through the ninenties without Britain until when EC changed to EU and Britain joined. May be the EU can go back to EC by eliminating some countries that are not really producing much to the Community, just only to be members and get helped once they are in trouble, as Greece did.

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    1. A_Real_Einstein June 25, 2016

      Wake up Dems. Elititist and inside candidates are on the outs. Hillary will lose. How much more proof do you need? Feel the Bern and win in November or enjoy President Trump.

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      1. FT66 June 25, 2016

        Where do you live? In Mars! Bernie himself has said he won’t be the nominee and he will vote for Hillary. Why are you still talking about feeling the Bern? Is it because it’s the weekend or something else?

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        1. A_Real_Einstein June 25, 2016

          I live in the US where we will be inaugurating a Presisident Trump if we run a Washington Plutocrat like Hillary. Open your eyes for gods sake.

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          1. FT66 June 25, 2016

            I think it is you who has to open the eyes. By the time of inauguration Trump will be in Scotland and enjoying playing golf. Haven’t you realised anything yet since Trump joined the race?

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          2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            yes doing all the work for just his own pocket and money and not for the office he runs for

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          3. jmprint June 25, 2016

            OK, my eye are wide open, what am I missing?

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          4. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            yup sure and you and your clowns doing this would be the being of the end for the country and the world as we know it

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          5. Independent1 June 26, 2016

            You might find these latest survey results of interest:

            Clinton Opens 12-Point Lead on Trump as Two-Thirds See Him as Biased (POLL)

            Hillary Clinton surged to a broad advantage against Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, capitalizing on Trump’s recent campaign missteps. Two-thirds of Americans see him as biased against groups such as women, minorities or Muslims, and a new high, 64 percent, call Trump unqualified to serve as president.

            https://gma.yahoo.com/clinton-opens-12-point-lead-trump-two-thirds-130147301–abc-news-topstories.html#

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        2. A_Real_Einstein November 13, 2016

          I told you to open your eyes, but you refused.

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          1. FT66 November 14, 2016

            Meh, go back to your meds.

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker June 25, 2016

        Wow…Hillary will lose. Okay folks. The Einstein genius boy has posted. NO election in November needed. Now all get down on your knees and bow before the Great God Einstein who knows all and sees all.

        Hillary has over 2.4 million more votes than Trump and 4.3 million more votes than Sanders. But you’re right. How can she “possibly” win with such “low” numbers like that?

        She also has nearly 2000 more state delegate votes than Sanders and about 1800 more than Trump. So, do you want to inform Hillary she should concede now?

        Yeesh…Folks if Einstein is an example of the andocratic right wingers these days, you can see why they are a breed so “rare” they belong in mental institutions.

        When, not if, Hillary wins by a landslide, there will be little Einstein still licking his wounds, claiming she cheated and lied, and belongs in prison. La La Land…Home of the Mentally Deranged Righties.

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        1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

          get down on your knees and bow before the Great God Einstein who knows all and sees all. /// one might do this for the real Einstein , but for this clown wanna be ill pass on any bow for them thank you NOT

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        2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

          Yeesh…Folks if Einstein is an example of the andocratic right wingers these days, you can see why they are a breed so “rare” they belong in mental institutions //// but by right and the way thy are this is truly how all the GOP gang of idiots think

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        3. A_Real_Einstein November 13, 2016

          i have never been a righty in my life. I voted for and contributed to HRC after you crucified my guy Bernie Sanders and chased away his voters. I told you not to run her!

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      3. idamag June 25, 2016

        What does that have to do with Britain opting out of the European Union?

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      4. Independent1 June 25, 2016

        You realize right that Hillary is actually leading Trump even in the poles in Arizona a red state??? Keep on dreaming.

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      5. Independent1 June 25, 2016

        Oh yes! How do you expect someone to win the presidency who is intensely disliked by more than 70% of the American population???

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        1. A_Real_Einstein November 13, 2016

          You run someone who is disliked more. We should have went with Bernie.

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          1. Independent1 November 13, 2016

            Hillary didn’t lose the 2016 election. GOP rigging stole it. They somehow rigged the computers that compiled the votes from possibly as many as 13 red states.

            See this from alternet:

            Clinton was ahead in four key states — North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida — but lost the computerized vote count. That’s not the first time a “red shift” occurred between live exit poll results posted on CNN and the later vote count results.

            That suggests the exit polls were either deeply flawed, or the vote count was compromised or stolen.

            This latest affront comes after other attacks on the process by political insiders and outsiders throughout the race. Before the campaigning began, insiders in 14 Republican-majority states adopted new voting restrictions and barriers such as new ID requirements. In Wisconsin, where Trump was ahead by 27,000 votes, attorneys trying to challenge that state’s new law said upwards of 300,000 residents lacked the required IDs. That early attack was bookended at the election’s close by Republican election officials, from Ohio’s secretary of state to North Carolina county election boards, who gamed the field for brazen partisan advantage. They curtailed early voting, moved precincts, inaccurately purged voter rolls, and made perplexing decisions—as in Ohio—not to activate voting machine audit software, which means the results cannot be verified.

            See more here:

            http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/can-we-count-election-results-exit-poll-discrepancies-and-voter-suppression-are

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    2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 25, 2016

      what is so hard about putting both SYSTEM’s on every thing that’s what the USA dose today . every thing is there Metric System and what ever the one we use here is on every thing bottles ,cans ,weights have both on every thing and buy it the way you want it at the end its all the same size just different wording but it is broken down to a size so buy it in the quart size or the L OR ML At the end its comes out to one amount in size just a different name on the package

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      1. FT66 June 25, 2016

        I don’t know your religion, but we christians believe that you get baptise using only one name. That shows where your beliefs are. You don’t get many names and tell people call me whatever name suits you best.

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        1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 25, 2016

          dose that truly matter a rose by any other name is still a rose as for my religion well I was born a Christian raised that way too . then as I grew older I thought more about it and now (that im not being forced and hammered into what to believe ) my eyes I had to open myself like it hate it its up to you and what you want to believe . as for me I tend to go on known FACTS . not something that has been passed down from one person to another . so as for a GOD what I believe is there are ET’s from other worlds one has to be blocked from reality to thing we are the only life form at all . so my thinking of a god or what anyone believe in I think any a time and or many time there has been an ET that has said to the human race // we tell you that there’s good and bad in every one /// and being human knowing no one is perfect one of out race messed up and some where thy lost one of the (O’S) in good and got god . so with that I feel (and believe this ) each one of us is our own so called god . with the power of good and bad in each of us . so really its not a one god that talks from a burning bush . and never really being seen as the passing down from one human to another want you to believe . what all should believe is we are all our own god’s and its not some star in the sky that makes things happen . its us as human’s that make these things happen . say if there is a god (and what I was brain washed) into my early part of life that there is only one god that’s the Christian way . so say this is true then what god would let all the hate and suffering and death , murders and all the other evils in the world happen ? its said god see’s every thing right ? ok so dose god call all the saints together and sit around eating pop corn during Hitler’s time watching all that with the saints ? god maybe telling the saints watch this part its crazy . and god watches one of his so called children mind you chop off another child of his head or watches one of his children be roasted like a pig over a fire ? my belief now it is the belief ‘s of all these gods and the faiths thy believe in is what’s going to end the human race . with this we will kill off one and another . so if the Christian faith says there is only one god then being that one god why would he or she let humans believe in any other god ? one would thing he would of and should of straighten this out from the start . if for nothing else but to save his children’s life’s from his other children so you said you don’t know what my faith is or what I believe in . well I truly believe there is no god . BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS GOOD AND BAD IN EVERY ONE . so if you want to take away one O out of good to make it god you can do that . but it wont change to a point of there being a god you have to correct it and put the O back in and know there is GOOD and bad in every one so we are all gods with in our self’s but its spell’s GOOD not god so if all was to take the good we all have in each of us and make things good all would be much better . heck then the human race might last a lot longer but not killing our self’s off

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker June 25, 2016

        The problem with the Metric System is what it was in the 80s when the US tried desperately to convert everything to it. It doesn’t work with people who were not born and bred to it. Do you seriously expect some 70 year old grandmother to relearn how to configure farenheit to celsious so she can figure out what the temperature is?

        We use it in weights and measures with the American weights and measures parenthetical to metrics.

        And what you posted isn’t precisely fact. I worked in an international chemical company and I can tell you that it requires thousands of new pieces of weighing equipment to change kilos to pounds. Metrics may be more precise. But crooks who try to scam weights and measures in the products they sell are not.

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        1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 25, 2016

          as I agree im 55 myself not old (I think anyways 🙂 ) but as for the higher spect’s. for there weight in drugs and chem. yes its important for them to be right no matter what side you use . but in general like for milk and bread like things here in the USA thy at least give one both on the package’s (not that many even look at it ) like a lt. is bigger then a quart and a mm is smaller then an inch . the metric system has too many mm ml and just seem to mill out more confusing things lol so its more or less showing a change that might happen some day . and bring it in this way would be better then just waking up and bang this is what we will use . as too me im use to the way things are now and always have been in the USA . but the metric system is based pretty much on 10’s like witch in math I understand that for I use 10’s all the time to help me fig. things out . but with the metric system . its too small how thy break every thing down too the smallest amount its more persiese or how ever one spells it to perfect its like math and algabra lol

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        2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

          what system is a dozen in ?

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    3. runfastandwin June 25, 2016

      Retirees took a $2 trillion hit and more trouble could be on the way and you say it’s not a major thing? You are wrong.

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      1. FT66 June 26, 2016

        Thats the big problem we have in our communities nowadays. People go and vote without thinking the consequences of the outcome. Voting because of ANGER always brings regrets afterwards.

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        1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

          the people that voted it im sure are a long way from retirees

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          1. FT66 June 26, 2016

            Quite the opposite. Mellannials voted to stay and the retirees voted to leave which is against their interest as they will lose their retirement benefits.

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          2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            and this is where the sneaky DONNY DUMP sends his lawyers in to get money and rich off the ones that get hurt IF DONNY DUMP LIKE IT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT

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          3. charleo1 June 26, 2016

            The youth vote opposed Britain leaving by wide margins. It was the elderly that assumed, because they were being told they were protecting the healthcare system, that voted to leave. And now, they are being told the monies they thought were going to fund their healthcare are not going to be available. That that was all an unfortunate mistake.

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          4. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            well then that shows its the older one’s that don’t know their butts from their elbow . even more strange one might think it would be the older ones that would want to keep their money the same with the same name then to change . seeing for just how many of the ones in their family’s in history used that for of money

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          5. charleo1 June 26, 2016

            Very true. As I hear it, the deception was very much the same as the one being perpetrated in this country on the same factions. The fearful, the ill-informed, the poorly educated, and the Nationalistic Nativists. And, just like many Brits today, these Americans will be extremely sorry about the results if Trump is somehow able to prevail here.

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          6. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

            Very true. As I hear it, the deception was very much the same as the one being perpetrated in this country on the same factions. The fearful, the ill-informed, the poorly educated, and the Nationalistic Nativists/// (((WOW COOL CHARLEO1))) you just described the DONNY DUMP gang of idiots brain dead followers

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      2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

        well I don’t really know what the UK did this for but if DONNY DUMP likes it has to be a bad thing . and now ill bet DD is going to try to make money off the hurting ones now . as to what ever reason the UK did this I don’t know but I feel that it might been smarter if thy was to do something like this a little at a time . instead of jumping with both feet in from the start .

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    4. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

      good research I found that myself

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      1. FT66 June 26, 2016

        You are welcome. Thats why we are here blogging each day. We are learning from each other.

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        1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 26, 2016

          not trying to be a jerk or anything but I have nothing to be you are welcome for if anything you might say thank you for me saying (good research) for what you copy and posted I was stating that ive read that already for my own research . now as for your comment of learning from each other . I agree with that part and it happens witch is a good thing I just feel that the UK should try some kind of this them self and learn more about things and what can and cant happen before thy jump in the ocean with 2 feet and no life line . thy should of (if thy wanted to do something like this ) taken it slowly baby steps that way for right or wrong thy could adjust as thy went along . so at least that way it wouldn’t be almost like a one and first punch knock out . from the start . do I feel thy did wrong ? by the market id side with thy might have . but then again as much as the world thy effected its still their call . and now thy have to live with it and if its broke as make feel it is then its time for them to find a fast repair of it all . and if lucky thy can cut the damage (if thy feel there’s any ) thy can fix and make things better . who know how thy truly feel about what thy did your talking about a country that thought thy could take over the USA . what dose that tell one ?

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  4. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 25, 2016

    i really don’t know what the UK did or is doing with all of this but its said it will take like 10 years or more to get it all straightened out . if attention was what thy seek from the world thy got that . im thinking maybe thy should found a way to do this thing a little at a time . instead of jumping right into something that take’s 10 years or more to straighten out

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  5. Eleanore Whitaker June 25, 2016

    The EU is comprised of “countries” with very deeply embedded cultures. The UK culture has very little in common with the Polish or Greek culture. So, it was inevitable that trying to create a “union” similar to the US was never going to work. Their European culture is thousands of years old compared to the US’s 235+ years and no specific culture.

    The problem of refugees is not limited strictly to the UK. Germany and some of the Scandinavian countries also have been stretched to the limits economically by refugees fleeing the Middle East.

    While taking in refugees may be a charitable and humanitarian effort, it takes its toll on those who already were born or reside in these open door regions.

    And, let’s be honest. About 30 years ago, the UK already took in Pakistani refugees in the thousands. To expect them to endure another incursion of refugees the country cannot support isn’t fair or honest.

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  6. idamag June 25, 2016

    Two pillars of civilization are: communication and dialogue. Anytime we can have a mechanism for promoting that, it should be a priority. Unfortunately this country has too many me and mine people. I had hoped foreign countries had been around long enough to have overcome this. I think this is a blow.

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  7. Billabob Johnson June 26, 2016

    I appreciate this for what it was – an opportunistic power grab by UKIP that twigged to the fact that globalization is leaving many trod asunder. By demonizing immigrants, Boris, the British Trump Look-alike is next in line for British PM. By making this an emotional issue and immigrants the scapegoat, the Brexit teams took a page from the Trump playbook. Hopefully, by the time of the American election, we will have had the chance to see some early issues with the Brexit vote’s un-intended consequences and already the signs of major buyers remorse are setting in.

    One of those consequences is that with little doubt, both Scotland and Northern Ireland will leave the UK – turning it into little ole England. Whilst oil prices are depressed – Scottish oil will thus flow back to Britain via the EU as Scotland re-joins that body and England will pay a WTO tariff. Oopsies.

    This may be the kick the Bureaucrats in Brussels need to realize they must do a better job of engagement outreach to the remaining 27 EU countries, and then look a little more aggressively at speeding entry for Eastern European and Turkish memberships. With no UK, what does that do for language priorities?

    Any way you slice it, the Brexiteers have set themselves up for failure. They essentially promised jobs to their supporters by saying they will stop immigration. That ain’t gonna happen. And over the next decade, as major demand grows on the continent and more manufacturing and financial services depart, where do those jobs go? And don’t get me started on what happens over the next decade with automation and Robots.
    Meanwhile the EU, assuming it can address their marketing issues, will get bigger, and as the US completes TAFTA wither goest England?

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