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Rachel Maddow Debunks ‘Extreme Vetting’ Propaganda Of Muslim Ban

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Rachel Maddow Debunks ‘Extreme Vetting’ Propaganda Of Muslim Ban

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Reprinted with permission from Media Matters for America.

From the March 2 edition of MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show:

RACHEL MADDOW (HOST): Now tonight, we have got this, this is another leaked report. I’m not going to tell you how we got it, but the Department of Homeland Security has tonight confirmed to us that this is authentic, that this is real. You can see at the top of it here, I think we’ve got it on screen, yeah — it’s labelled “Unclassified, for official use only,” it’s dated yesterday, March 1, 2017.

This is a report that’s from the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis. Again, that’s the U.S. intelligence agency that’s based inside Homeland Security, and interestingly, it says it was prepared by that intelligence office, but look at that small print there.

“Prepared by the Office of Intelligence Analysis” that’s the Homeland Security Agency, but it was coordinated with Customs and Border Protection, State Department, Immigration and Customs Enforcement — I.C.E., National Counterterrorism Center, and the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. So, all of those people coordinated in creating this report.

And now, here’s the title: “Most Foreign-Born U.S.-Based Violent Extremists Radicalized After Entering Homeland.”

Oh, and what’s the key finding here? What’s the key judgment here? This is it, quote: “We assess that most foreign-born, U.S.-based violent extremists likely radicalized several years after their entry into the United States.”

And why is that important? Say it again? “We assess that most foreign-born U.S.-based violent extremists likely radicalized several years after their entry into the United States,” comma, “limiting the ability of screening and vetting officials to prevent their entry because of national security concerns.”

Oh, right, so much for extreme vetting, right? The whole justification, the whole explanation from this administration for the Muslim ban was to stop people coming into this country, at least for a while, right? At least for a while, it’s a temporary travel ban so we can get the extreme vetting, so Trump could set up his extreme vetting plan, right? When he announced it in the first place, that’s the “Until we can figure out what is going on” part of how he announced it.


MADDOW: I look at this, and you know what I think? I think the Muslim ban is dead.



  1. dbtheonly March 4, 2017

    Muslim Ban dead? Hardly.

    Ms.Maddow is living in reality world. The Muslim Ban is in the world of image.

    It makes Trump look powerful.
    It makes Trump look like he’s fighting terrorism.
    It demonizes Muslims.
    It supports Christians.

    The goal is the image. They just need something that passes constitutional muster.

    1. Independent1 March 4, 2017

      And I think even the Muslim Ban was an intentional distraction/deflection. When Trump and Bannon created the list of countries for the ban, they did that knowing that because they left off the list six countries which have sent us more terrorists than the seven they banned (which has been no terrorists and we know Trump has a investments in a number of those he left off); Bannon and Turmp knew that the ban was going to accomplish nothing in the way of making America safer. So my sense is that given the timing and the nonsensical way the ban was written; it was written hastily as a cover up or smokescreen for Trump’s supporters.

      I’m fairly certain they knew the ban was going to create a major ruckus not only among a sizeable section of the American population but also outside of America;, and I think they were hoping that that ruckus would distract Trump’s followers from really focusing on the fact that trump was not following through on his promise to drain the swamp with his cabinet appointments; and that many of the EOs he would hastily sign would actually be making living conditions for his followers much worse instead of better.

      1. dbtheonly March 4, 2017

        Okay, but I’m guessing that Trump was surprised by the lack of coherence in enforcement and then the Courts staying further enforcement pending a hearing on the merits.

        It wound up looking bad. Stopping the former Norwegian PM, for example. People turned away at the landing gates, visas dishonored. Sad.

        Then the courts, surprisingly, in my mind, but perhaps less so because of how fubar the roll out was, stepped in to stay the order.

        Trump rants against the Judges, but notice, he calls it back to rework it, rather than risk a SCOTUS defeat.

        So Trump looks bad. He looks like a girly man. Arnold’s dumping on him. He’s got to bring out the new, improved, “Terrorist Ban”. His ego requires it.

        The product doesn’t have to work. Trump merely has to sell it.

        1. Independent1 March 4, 2017

          I agree. Given that neither Trump nor Bannon are too hep in many ways, I’d guess a lot of the aggravation and negative PR the ban ended up creating probably caught them by surprise.

          But as you say, Trump had to rework the ban and Blabber Buzz claims a revised version is coming out next week.

          See this:

          Trump expected to sign new travel ban into US by early next week

          President Trump is expected to sign a revised executive order early next week banning travel from several Middle Eastern and African counties, the president’s latest effort to
          prevent radical Islamic terrorism on U.S. soil.

          A senior administration official confirmed with Fox News on Saturday that Trump’s new executive order could come as early as Monday or Tuesday. Trump was elected in November in large part on a national security platform that included stronger U.S. borders and putting an end to ISIS
          and other radical Islamic terror groups.

          One of his first official acts after taking office in late-January
          was to sign executive orders that temporarily halted the U.S. refugee program and travel from seven mostly-Muslim, Middle Eastern and African countries.

          The orders have been held up in a federal appeals court since early-February, with Trump weighing his options but making clear as recently as last week that he fully intends to fulfill his campaign pledge.

          “The vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and
          terrorism-related offenses since 9/11 came here from outside of our country,” Trump said during his address Tuesday night to a joint session of Congress.

          “It is not compassionate, but reckless to allow uncontrolled entry from places where proper vetting cannot occur,” he said.


          Notice the lie about most terrorist acts being committed by individuals from outside the country. And no mention at all that not one terrorist act has ever been committed by anyone from the 7 countries Trump’s banning? While over 3,000 Americans have been killed by people from 4-5 of Muslim countries he’s not banning.

          1. dbtheonly March 5, 2017

            But you & Ms. Maddow are stil playing in the wrong ball field. You act as if the actual efficacy of the Muslim Ban matters.

            It doesn’t.

            Trump was, and is, a salesman. He’s selling the glitz, the image, the aura. He’s looking for the image of being tough on terrorism. He’s looking for the image of being strong on defense. The actual efficacy of his policies matter less, if at all, when compared to the picture it presents of Trump.

            The Clinton Campaign never caught on. We can’t afford to keep missing Trump’s point.

          2. Dominick Vila March 5, 2017

            You nailed it!

          3. lee March 5, 2017

            Yes, Trump is showing you how crooked the corportist globailst elitists are and you’re still not seeing it. What else can he do?

          4. dbtheonly March 5, 2017

            Good Heavens, do people still talk that way?

            “crooked the corportist globailst elitists” I haven’t heard people talk that way since the Maoists in college all these years ago.

          5. iamproteus March 6, 2017

            Please define “corportist globailst elitists”. Is that what is referred to in the book “1984” as “newspeak”?

  2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 5, 2017

    Trump needs to feed his ego, because he has been addicted to the high he’s been getting for decades from the sense of feeling superior. There was a response to some individuals who posed a question related to the unraveling of human society. The response mentioned how many of us humans are distorting our reality, as Trump is amply demonstrating front and center weekly, and has been doing so since his youth.

    The “tree” of Donald’s nature has grown crooked and no longer can be straightened out, just as an oak tree if constrained to grow as a sapling at a certain angle will maintain that misdirection for its duration. Trump is the same way, and his personality forces him to make life difficult for others regardless of whether this ban makes sense or not. For Trump, everything else is secondary to his ego; all must submit to his desires and whims.

    The statement from the Universal House of Justice’s letter on the state of human affairs and human nature is the following:

    “ Indeed,the expenditure of enormous energy and vast amounts of resources in an attempt to bend truth to conform to personal desire is now a feature of many contemporary societies. The result is a culture that distorts human nature and purpose, trapping human beings in pursuit of idle fancies and vain imaginings and turning them into pliable objects in the hands of the powerful. Yet, the happiness and well-being of humanity depend upon the opposite: cultivating human character and social order in conformity with reality. Divine teachings shed light on reality, enabling every soul to investigate it properly and to acquire, through the exercise of personal discipline, those attributes that are to distinguish the human being. ‘Man should know his own self’, Baha’u’llah states, ‘and recognize that which leadeth unto loftiness or lowliness, glory or abasement, wealth or poverty.’ “

    (from a letter dated April 2013 to a group of individuals by the Universal House of Justice)

  3. dpaano March 6, 2017

    45’s ban is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard in all my 70 years! Apparently, he isn’t aware that these people already go through over 18 months of extreme vetting before they’re even issued a visa to come to the U.S. I’m not sure how much more vetting they can be put through! I bet even 45 would have a hard time getting through such vetting!! I’m sure he has a lot of skeletons in his closet that might come forth! He needs to just come clean and admit that it’s a Muslim ban and that’s it! It has NOTHING to do with the country they’re coming from….it has EVERYTHING to do with their religion!


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