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Donald Trump Sexual Assault Allegations

By Steve Holland and Dan Whitcomb

GREENSBORO, N.C./LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Friday accusations of sexual misconduct against him were part of a plot to discredit him after two more women came forward with allegations that he had groped them.

The accusations – including one from a contestant on his reality show, “The Apprentice” – coincided with the release on Friday of a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll taken on Oct. 7-13 showing him trailing Democrat Hillary Clinton by 7 percentage points among likely voters in the Nov. 8 election.

Summer Zervos, who competed on the television show’s fifth season in 2006, gave a news conference with celebrity attorney Gloria Allred in Los Angeles, saying Trump kissed her, touched her breast and tried to get her to lie down on a bed with him during a 2007 meeting about a possible job.

“He put me in an embrace and I tried to push him away. I pushed his chest to put space between us and I said come on man, get real. He repeated my words back to me, ‘Get real,’ as he began thrusting his genitals,” Zervos said.

Zervos said she thought Trump was going to take her to dinner to discuss a job, but the meeting took place in his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where he later ordered a club sandwich for them to share.

“I wondered if the sexual behavior was some kind of test and whether or not I had passed” by rejecting it, she said, but Trump later offered her a job at a golf course for half the salary she had requested.

Separately, the Washington Post published an interview with a woman who said Trump put his hand up her skirt in a crowded New York nightclub in the early 1990s in an unwanted advance.

“He did touch my vagina through my underwear, absolutely,” Kristin Anderson said in a video interview on the newspaper’s website. “It wasn’t a sexual come-on. I don’t know why he did it. It was like just to prove that he could do it,” she told the paper. Anderson could not be reached for comment.

The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment on the new allegations. But at a campaign rally on Friday, Trump angrily denounced the allegations several women have made about him in recent days, calling the women “sick” and saying the accusations were fabricated.

“I don’t know who these people are. I look on television, I think it’s a disgusting thing and it’s being pushed, they have no witnesses, there’s nobody around,” Trump said at the rally in Greensboro, North Carolina.

“Some are doing it for probably a little fame, they get some free fame. It’s a total set-up,” he said.

Trump‘s White House campaign has been scrambling to recover from the release a week ago of a 2005 video in which he bragged about groping women and making unwanted sexual advances. While Trump said the video was just talk and he had never behaved in this way, several women subsequently went public with allegations of sexual misconduct against the New York real estate magnate going back three decades.

SUPPORT FROM PENCE

Interviewed on CBS on Friday, Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence defendedTrump, telling the “This Morning” show, “Stay tuned. I know there’s more information that’s going to be coming out that will back his claim that this is all categorically false.”

Pence gave no details about the forthcoming information. On Thursday, Trump also said he would make public information showing the allegations against him were false, without giving details.

In denying the allegations, Trump has said The New York Times, which published two women’s claims, and other media, along with Clinton, are engaged in a vicious campaign to stop him from winning the election.

Trump, 70, on Friday mocked one of the women cited in the Times article, Jessica Leeds. “Believe me, she would not be my first choice, that I can tell you,” he said. Leeds, who is now 74, alleged that Trump groped her on a flight to New York, in or around 1980.

He called Natasha Stoynoff, a reporter who wrote in People magazine that Trump kissed her and pinned her against a wall, a “liar” and told the rally to “check out her Facebook page, you’ll understand.”

RYAN: ‘TAKE THE HIGH GROUND’

Many Republicans have sought to distance themselves from Trump. The most senior of them, House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan, angered Trump when he announced this week he would no longer campaign for Trump or defend him but would focus on trying to preserve the Republican majorities in Congress in the election.

Ryan gave a campaign speech in Madison, Wisconsin, on Friday without mentioning Trump’s name once. He urged college Republicans to look beyond the “ugliness” of the presidential campaign to focus on issues such as tax and healthcare reform.

“The kind of election we really want to have, it’s not the one we’re necessarily having right now,” Ryan said, urging students to “take the high ground.”

DISPUTES WITH MEXICO

Trump on Friday also accused Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim – the top shareholder in The New York Times Company – of helping to generate the reports of sexual misconduct.

He said Slim, as a donor to the Clinton Foundation charity who also holds a 17.35 percent stake in the Times, has an interest in helping her White House campaign.

Arturo Elias, Slim’s spokesman and son-in-law, said Slim had “absolutely no contact” with the newspaper’s reporters or editors on their Trump campaign coverage and “zero” contact with the paper’s news operations.

New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. said in a statement, “Carlos Slim is an excellent shareholder who fully respects boundaries regarding the independence of our journalism. He has never sought to influence what we report.”

Trump‘s allegation about Slim was the latest chapter in a running series of skirmishes he has had with Mexico and Mexicans.

Trump kicked off his campaign last year accusing Mexico of sending rapists and drug dealers to the United States and promised to build a wall along the southern U.S. border that he said he would make Mexico pay for.

(Additional reporting by Emily Stephenson, Doina Chiacu, Susan Cornwell, Michael O’Boyle, Anna Driver, Jessica Toonkel, Jeff Mason, Timothy Gardner; Writing by Roberta Rampton and Doina Chiacu; Editing by Frances Kerry and Howard Goller)

Photo: Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the TV show The Apprentice, is embraced by lawyer Gloria Allred (L) while speaking about allegations of sexual misconduct against Donald Trump during a news conference in Los Angeles, California, October 14, 2016.    REUTERS/Kevork Djansezian

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242 Comments

  1. Sand_Cat October 14, 2016

    Guess we’ll get the “further information” when we get the tax returns and most of the other stuff he’s promised: “at an appropriate time,” i.e. never. Why should he? His idiot followers believe everything he says, no matter how obnoxious or absurd.

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    1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

      YEP.
      We never got to see Darth Cheney’s WMD’s, never got to see all of Myth Romney’s tax returns, and we’ll never get to see Donald Slump’s tax returns, also. That’s how the RNC rolls.
      LET’S ROLL AS MANY OF THEM AS WE CAN OUT OF D.C.

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      1. Sand_Cat October 15, 2016

        Come now! How can you insult Darth Vader so? As Luke kept pointing out, there was still good in him.

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        1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

          Sorry, old Darth helped to BLOW UP a planet in the first movie and that made him unforgivable later on.

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          1. Sand_Cat October 15, 2016

            Sorry. I thought it was a pretty good joke, but you either didn’t or just missed the point.

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          2. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            I guess I did miss it. Sorry.
            I had “a GOP moment”, I suppose.

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        2. idamag October 15, 2016

          In Darth Vader, maybe

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          1. Sand_Cat October 16, 2016

            That was the point of the joke. Geez, is humor completely dead?

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      2. idamag October 15, 2016

        I SECOND THAT

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        1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

          Thanks and RIGHT ON, idamag….!!

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  3. PrecipitousDrop October 15, 2016

    The FIRST THING any candidate for national office ever does is opposition research — on themselves. Anyone but Trump, that is. His campaign had strict instructions not to.
    Clinton, of course, and the New York Times and Washington Post have filled warehouses with damaging information. It was cheap to get, too. Trump has cheated too many workers, contractors, accountants and attorneys. He has lied in print and on tape too many times, and he has left too many crumbs in his paths.
    He complains that Clinton and the media are engaged in a “vicious campaign” to defeat him? He complains? What did he expect? We’d serve him the presidency on a dinner plate?

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

      Look, the only reason the Mutton Chops, Dixiebelles and Corn Pone Kings and Queens are sticking with Trump is because they knew so little about who he really is. Anyone who lives in the NY/NJ Metro area was inundated for 4 decades of Humpty Trumpty. After a while, we just didn’t bother to pay any attention. Even when he and Marla divorced and he was already planning a run for the presidency and she told him if he did, she would out him.

      The only reason Ivana and Marla can’t do that is because they’d have to forfeit the divorce agreement for $2 million a month in alimony. But, they are both getting smart. They know when, not if, Humpty Trumpty loses, he is going to lose most of his wealth. Who on earth would get within 100 miles of the Trump name now that he has proven what a sleaze ball he really is?

      Prediction: Both Ivana and Marla will figure out their alimony will go down the drain and the Trump silencing of them will end.

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      1. Mama Bear October 15, 2016

        The only thing you said that I think could be wrong is that his followers know so little about him. I have come to understand that they do know about him but they so desperately need someone to “follow” who is as vile and sleazy as they are they think whatever he does is normal.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

          There was a photo on FB yesterday that proves how little these Trump supporters are. A woman was wearing a shirt that said, “Trump can grab my “…..” This is a woman with any sense of self-respect?

          And let’s assume that one of Trump’s male supporters takes a cue from Trump and decides to grab her. She’ll then play victim, sue and enjoy her new found wealth for the rest of her life when she was the one who gave HER permission in the first place.

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          1. Mama Bear October 15, 2016

            maybe…. but I did see that photo and my take was a little different – I think that woman was a sleazy tramp who meant what she wrote on her t-shirt. Self-respect? These women do not know what that even means because: a) they have never encountered the concept before, and b) they take their identity from the men around them and the sexual thing is a very good thing to them – it proves they are real women adored and desired by men.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

            The worst case scenario for women like this is that they smear their own parents who raised them. Just how many generations back do these Trump supporters need to go to prove what is really wrong with right wing ideologues?

            I would NEVER in my worst nightmare EVER show my face in public in such an undignified manner. If for no other reason, than that I love my parents and would never want to destroy the fine breeding they taught me. Most of us know not to act out in public in a way that would make our parents and grandparents look bad.

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          3. Mama Bear October 15, 2016

            I agree, but you and I were not raised as these people were. I live in Ohio and at one time I lived in southern Ohio where it might as well be Alabama or rural Mississippi. I have seen these people and experienced their extremely narrow minded uneducated unsophisticated ways and how the womenfolk were expected to “behave”. It scared me to death and I threatened divorce over leaving there, and trust me, I would have. I think they are pathetic and I think you are very fortunate to have never encountered that part of society.

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          4. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

            Actually, when I visited my then husband’s relatives in the Florida Panhandle, I thought I’d left Planet Earth. It isn’t culture to treat women like dog meat. It isn’t culture for men to be so grossly insecure that a woman in a position of authority or a woman who is more intelligent is a super threat.

            I do agree though. When I asked these women why their lives were so impoverished, they acted as if working for half of what their men earned was their right and privilege.

            I could NEVER live in the south or midwest. Life in the northeast is like living on fast track with no slow down ever. You either keep up or you get lost in the shuffle.

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          5. Mama Bear October 15, 2016

            Panhandle, OMG so you have seen it first hand too. It is another world – a 4th world.

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          6. Blueberry Hill October 15, 2016

            Gawd! Some women are so damn stupid! That is how they gravitate to the Trump Trash.

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          7. Blueberry Hill October 15, 2016

            I figured out a while back that he is attracting people who are just like him and think like him (actually they don’t think – brainless twits) They are the ones who are also sexual predators, liars, thieves, anti-women, anti-American, pro-Russian, racists, KKK, the dregs of society. They know who they are.

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          8. Jerryb October 15, 2016

            YEP.
            Deplorables and TEAplorables who are TEAvolting, TEApressing, and mildly TEAtarded.
            VOTE FOR ALL THE PROGRESSIVES ON YOUR BALLOTS.

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          9. idamag October 15, 2016

            See my post above.

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        2. plc97477 October 16, 2016

          They are all whimpering cowards who need a strong man to take care of them. They just aren’t smart enough to recognize a strong man.

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      2. idamag October 15, 2016

        Some of those corn pone people might come from where uncles introduce their nieces to sex.

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        1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

          Yep. These in-bred TEAlbillies meet their future wives and hubbies at their family reunions….yeee-HAWWW!

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    2. idamag October 15, 2016

      He said, in the debate, that Clinton was putting up horrible ads about him. She is just playing his own words from tapes. That is horrible.

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      1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

        HORRIBLE ads about a HORRIBLE individual.
        I bet he perved on either Tiffany AND/or Ivanka as they were growing up. If you notice, Tiffany says NOTHING on behalf of her dad. It’s so SAD.

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        1. idamag October 15, 2016

          Ivanka seems pretty quiet, too. You notice when she gained a little weight, she go right on it.

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          1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            Yep. IT’S GOING TO BE ‘DOOM AND GLOOM’ for them this holiday season.

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    3. july860 October 15, 2016

      Well, he was hoping.

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  4. Box October 15, 2016

    Lets say the groping is real and leave it there. Why cant the left? Because they use the groping as their version of damage control for the daily wikileaks which they refuse to address. Same in here.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

      And why would ANY woman, YOUR wife or YOUR daughter, just leave it there? Wikileaks is now in more trouble over its use of Russian propaganda to attack the US. Oh what tangled webs the sleaze commit with such each when first they practice to deceive.

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      1. Blueberry Hill October 15, 2016

        Yes, he even lied about the already compromised Wikileaks. Can’t believe Wikileaks in the first place. Emails can be altered and even faked; and already were, but he even lied about what they said. They should know better than to pass them on to a pathological liar. It is obvious that Julian Assange and Putin are supplying these lies and hacked emails to the Trashy Trump. He probably paid a lot for their “services”.

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    2. Jinmichigan October 15, 2016

      Funny stuff. Nothing in any of the so called emails is close to DON the PERVERT.

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      1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

        CORRECT.
        After this, the GOP will be known as the Pervertlican Party.

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    3. CrankyToo October 15, 2016

      You’re totally right!!! It’s all smoke an mirrors. Trump’s going to be vindicated on November 8th. He’s going to trounce Hillary with a landslide victory. Not only that, but he’s going to be the greatest President in history! He’s going to make America great again!

      Just ask my girlfriend, Morgan Fairchild.

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      1. dtgraham October 15, 2016

        LOL.

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      2. Jerryb October 15, 2016

        FUNNY!
        “Yeah….Morgan Fairchild…..whom I’ve seen naked…”
        Jon Lovitz at his BEST.

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        1. CrankyToo October 15, 2016

          Big deal. Trump groped her and shoved his tongue down her throat.

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          1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            Donald Grump grabbed Scarem Palin at one of his Nazi Party rallies but Sarah’s not talking….YET.

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          2. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            Donald Mumps keeps a big Siamese cat in his office at Trump Tower so he can say he grabs some p*ssy every few minutes.

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    4. Jenn October 15, 2016

      Let’s just say your daughter’s teacher was on tape bragging about how he just can’t help himself, he says, “I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait,” and “Grab them by the p—y.” You would just leave it there? No one needs damage control but your candidate and he, along with his minions are using every excuse possible. Yes, Hillary is flawed but nothing you can say about her equates to being a sexual predator, nothing.

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    5. Independent1 October 15, 2016

      Donald Trump is a proven sexual offender/predator (even based on his own admissions), and as such should be wearing a monitoring device so authorities know where he is every minute. And the neighbors of where he lives should be made aware of that just like with other sexual offenders and he should be included in the national list of sexual offenders.

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    6. PrecipitousDrop October 15, 2016

      The Clinton campaign is not at all concerned about stolen and leaked documents that have not been authenticated. They’re tainted, Box. Worthless as “proof” of anything.
      Trump, however, BRAGGED about assaulting women. A few of them have now come forward. Live with it. He’s your candidate.
      And he’s losing.

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    7. Jerryb October 15, 2016

      Box, we on the left aren’t LEAVING SHEET ALONE until the Donald and the rightists are DOA.
      The Wikileaks don’t come to Shiite, and that’s why no one’s paying attention.

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    8. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

      Give it up, Box. Your plea for leniency is immature and reflects your hard time to swallow the humiliation you should be suffering given Donald’s atrocious character and behavior, and given your irrational comments on these events.

      “Leave it there”? You are out of your cotton-picking mind and may as well be a groper yourself. You won’t get off the hook, and neither should “The Groper”.

      I’m sure Donald the Groper would be as eager as you to ignore the matter and sweep it under the rug. Well, Box—that ain’t going to happen. A major milestone has been reached and Trump has no one to blame but himself and his evil alter-ego that whispers “You’re a star—you can grope and molest all you want. No one will care.”

      Is any of this getting through to you, Box?

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  5. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

    That is ALL Trump has. He has NO evidence. Everyone who is anyone knows that any one of the women lodging these accusations can prove it. That’s how stupid some men are who play their “get away with it games.”

    As for Bill Clinton, smart people know that those jiggly butt Dixiebelles were a set up by Karl Rove and Grover Norquist who will go to hell rather than cease their vengence on Bill Clinton.

    As you can see ladies, some men in this country are SLEAZE BALLS who will cut each other’s throats if necessary and when they go after a woman, their first and ONLY reaction is to smear her reputation when theirs is worse than a rutting pig’s.

    Trump has no evidence. And if he is that stupid as to try and go after lawyer Gloria Allred, he proves beyond doubt his spiteful rich boy sleaze is way past mentally unhinged.

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    1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

      Yes, the alleged Clinton rape was fully investigated by the ARK FBI long ago and they concluded that there wasn’t enough evidence to prosecute. The alleged victim’s story CHANGED a few times, and there were no witnesses. No one saw Clinton enter or leave the hotel, and no records exist of the woman RENTING a ROOM at said hotel! She was cheating on her husband with a guy who wasn’t Bill, and the husband suspected and beat her. She got a FEW BIG CHECKS from the GOP and claimed Bill was the one who beat her. Her LIES have been debunked by ALL except Clinton-hating Debunklicans.
      BUT DONALD’S ON SEVERAL RADIO AND TV CLIPS ADMITTING TO MISTREATING WOMEN and telling other men to do the same to their wives! He’s an ADMITTED sexual predator and has admitted to sexual assault!
      VOTE FOR HRC.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 16, 2016

        Thank you so much for your great post. It would seem as if the Republicans in their morbid, rabid desperation will resort to any low. Personally? Since the 80s, there were whispers about Trump’s sexual activities at the Playboy Mansion and his sexual deviancies.

        You know as well as I, that dirt always comes out in the wash. It is long past time for Rove and Norquist to get what’s coming to them. Every year since their Young Republicans College Days, they have been trying to destroy Bill Clinton and later, Hillary.

        These two are every bit as bad as the Koch attack dogs, Gowdy, Chaffetz and Cotton. These guys are BAD news to any government. Their ONLY objective is what Newt Gingrich once told Al Sharpton in an interview: “We will have a permanent Republican Majority in the House and Senate.”

        There is only one way to accomplish that: Government takeover. Trump is about as close as they come to their Gingrichian Dream.

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        1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

          Thank you for the nice words, Eleanor. Your posts are wonderfully enlightening, also.
          Yes, the Donald is a PERV. And yes, Gingrich and Numbed-ya Bush, talked openly about “permanent majorities in Congress”. That, added to RIGGED elections a la the two Dumbya stole, amount to one-party rule and FASCISM!
          I’m betting MORE TAPES will come out in the days and weeks left before the election that will embarrass Rommel Trump and his neo-Nazi stooges, and that should SEAL the deal for HRC and the Democrats to win it all….!!
          VOTE FOR EVERY PROGRESSIVE ON YOUR BALLOT TO END GOP GRIDLOCK AND OBSTRUCTION IN CONGRESS.

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  6. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

    Most of us here in the Metro area regarded Trump as a fast talking P.T. Barnum who could sell the Brooklyn bridge to Brooklyn.We also ALL knew how he silenced anyone who dared speak the truth about him by using that pocketful of judges and his million dollar lawyers to smear and slander his opposition.

    Right now, the biggest problem isn’t with Trump. It’s with the Republican Party. They have NO idea what Trump can do if he chooses to smear them if he loses this election.

    According to Trump, “I never lose.” He’s right. He doesn’t ever lose. He just buys his way around losses and then claims he won.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 15, 2016

        Thank you for that link! It was great!

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  7. jakenhyde October 15, 2016

    Ahh yes…The old “casting couch”. It’s been around Hollywood ever since movies began and now Trump is making use of it.

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  8. Joyce October 15, 2016

    It’s just like when his wife plagiarized Michelle Obama’s speech. The campaign vehemently denied wrong doing even though evidence was right in front of us all. Trump’s sex scandals are no different. Deny. Deny. Lie.

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    1. dtgraham October 15, 2016

      Are you sure? I read on Wingnut hot- air.com that Michelle Obama is nothing more than a time travelling bi*ch who travelled into the future from 2008 to crib Melania’s speech.

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      1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

        And on The Former Communist Bloc Fun-Times dot com, Fearless Leader (Putin) said, “Trump would be a better POTUS to DEAL with since he’s run casinos….”
        DEAL Donald Slumped OUT and far away from D.C.

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  9. Blueberry Hill October 15, 2016

    He has gotten away with that sleazy behavior for so long, and is a constant liar, that of course he will try to lie his way out of this one too. He tries to blame his crappy behavior on anyone else, he has not grown up enough to admit and apologize yet. He has spread so many lies against others that he cannot handle it when the truth comes out about him. If there is one thing we don’t want near the White House, it is a professional sexual predator. His rape trial begins in Dec. for the rape of the now 13 year old child he raped, with a witness. He needs to spend a long time in prison and needs to be locked up even for the safety of others. His trials for the remaining 1500 fraud charges begins after the election. Wouldn’t it be embarrassing to have a president in prison for sexual and fraud charges? Can’t let it happen.
    NEVER VOTE TRUMP, HE IS A PREDATOR ON MANY LEVELS, EVEN SEXUAL !!

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    1. idamag October 15, 2016

      He has always gotten away with his behavior and thinks he will never pay the price. He was probably the little boy mothers did not want their children to play with.

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    2. july860 October 15, 2016

      Glad to hear he’s going on trial. I thought it was swept under the rug, like so much else.

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  10. Jon October 15, 2016

    Trump is beyond deplorable and irredeemable. He gets his own basket complete with throne. He is an embarrassment to decent human beings worldwide. His only support comes from Putin and Russia, Kim Jong-un in N. Korea, right wingnuts in Europe and his rabid hate-mongers in the U.S..
    I hope the voters get out to vote and get out the vote to save us from having Trump become our 1st President Pervert. His denials of perverted activity are nothing short of mind-boggling. His denials have ranged from I don’t know these women, I scarcely know these women, they are not attractive enough for me to sexually abuse, they are liars, Bill Clinton did it and Hillary attacked the women, this is a global conspiracy against me led by Hillary Clinton, MSM media, international bankers and media moguls, I am the victim, and it’s Carlos Slim’s fault among others. He convinces only the rabid rats who support him. He is nothing but a whiny immature loser. He’s a disaster.

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    1. Jerryb October 15, 2016

      YEP.
      Merv the Perv will embarrass the Office of the POTUS, his fellow GOPeanut Gallery supporters, and the NATION. It must not happen.
      VOTE FOR HRC AND EVERY PROGRESSIVE ON YOUR BALLOT TO END GOP GRIDLOCK AND OBSTRUCTION.

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      1. Jon October 16, 2016

        You’re absolutely right. There is a chance of regaining the Senate but regaining the House is a long shot. If the Republicans retain control of both, the obstructionism they engaged in during President Obama’s terms will appear mild by comparison. I feel sorry for her if she has to put up with the spiteful Republican majorities in both the House and Senate.

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        1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

          You make intelligent observations, Jon, and thanks for them. I agree that retaking the House is a long shot, but it’ll definitely help if we really make it a try. If we can just win HALF of the seats needed this time around, maybe by the midterms of ’18, we’ll get it back.
          But we do have a GOOD CHANCE of wining the Senate (only FOUR seats to flip!), SO please send any donations you can spare to those Senate races.
          We have to keep fascism on the run….!!

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          1. Jon October 16, 2016

            Absolutely. I expose our GOP senator here for the lying hypocrite he is every chance I get. I am doing all I can to get out the vote. We have early voting here and I have already voted. If I die tomorrow, I will die knowing that I have done all I could to try to defeat a madman and every Republican in my district and state.
            Thanks for your compliment but I don’t deserve it. I wish I was eloquent. I just try to be as comprehensible as I can. Sometimes I get satirical and have had people who don’t know me think I was a Trumpie. I can’t resist being a little snarky once in awhile.
            Have a great week and don’t forget about Act 3 on 10-19.

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          2. idamag October 17, 2016

            I don’t call my state’s federal senator, my senator as he never has been. He is guilty of treason by being one of those who signed a letter to a foreign leader while negotiations were being held. He is one of those who invited another foreign leader to address Congress and diss our president. He also is violating the Constitution by refusing to hearings on a presidential appointee. We cannot have a democracy with these kind of people destroying it.

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          3. Jon October 17, 2016

            My GOP senator who is up for re-election this year is a strong Trump supporter. I wasn’t surprised. He is a huge hypocrite and I can’t stand to listen to him anymore. I know it will be nearly impossible to unseat him but I will at least go down fighting. He ignores the U.S. Constitution and only acts on behalf of his wealthy donors. He is spineless.

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      2. idamag October 17, 2016

        Save our Democracy before it is too late. Vote the obstructionists out of office.

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  11. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

    “Stay tuned. I know there’s more information that’s going to be coming out that will back his claim that this is all categorically false.”
    Yes, we’re staying tuned to see how much fecal material Pence is willing to dip himself in in protecting an habitual assaulter of women assaulter who actually boasted as much.

    So despicable and depraved has Pence become that he dares to challenge these women’s claims and seeks to sew seeds of doubt into the minds of the public. with some hollow threat that he knows more information is coming to dispute the claims—evidence that he most likely contrived to save his face and that of Trump’s.

    The so-called “Moral Majority”, in which Pence and Donald would now like us to believe that they are permanent members of, were neither moral nor a majority—just pretenders with a habit of being sanctimonious.

    ” No one respects women more than me…”, asserted Trump.

    This “Mother of all Specious Lies”, is one that should be added to the dictionary as an example for the entry “specious”.

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  12. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

    Paul Ryan wants to take the “high road”, a phrase he’s unfamiliar with and has only recently learned of for the first, quite likely from Michelle Obama.

    Ryan can learn to take the high road by admitting he has been blinded into standing by an egomaniac due to a dogged insistence on bowing down to the false god called “Conservative Political Values”.

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  13. Jerryb October 15, 2016

    Rommel Trump has ALREADY admitted to being a “sexual predator” on an old tape taken from the Howard Stern show. He’s on FILM sitting next to Ivanka LAUGHING about it!
    These women aren’t lying! The Donald is MISOGYNISTIC PIG! Can you imagine him groping the female WH staff when business is supposed to be getting done?! And since he doesn’t know sheet about govt., not much will be done – just daily Twitter wars, groping, and sniffing [cocaine]!
    VOTE FOR HRC….!!

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  14. Jerryb October 15, 2016

    Party of ‘Family Values’, meet the Candidate of Sexual Perversion.

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  15. Jerryb October 15, 2016

    For years, the Bushitlicans have TRIED to hijack the Bible, stating to voters that they’re closer to Biblical teachings than the Democrats.
    Well now, they have to CHOOSE. They can either stick with an admitted sexual predator and sexual assaulter or they can reject him and not vote/vote for Johnson/vote for HRC.
    If they STICK with Donald Groped, they’re HYPOCRITES. FACTS.

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  16. Jerryb October 15, 2016

    Conned-all Trump offered a brief, halfhearted apology to women during the second Pres. Debate.
    As a husband and father (to one daughter), I’d like to offer ALL WOMEN an apology for pigs like this. Women, we’re not all good guys, as you know, but we’re not all groping, lying, misogynistic scum, and a lot of us TRULY LOVE, ADORE, RESPECT, AND PROTECT women and girls.
    As a Democrat, I LOOK FORWARD to having the FIRST woman POTUS and I hope many of you will see the Dem. Party as a party that respects and supports women, and denounces OPENLY jerks like Donald Chump, unlike that other hypocritical party.
    Thank you.

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    1. Box October 15, 2016

      Your apology for Trump is very nice and all but I didnt hear one for Bill. Dont you owe women a little more?

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

        What exactly do you want Bill to apologize for–for having a consensual relationship with Monica? Of having dalliances, perhaps, with other women—some of whom were paid, they acknowledged, to come forward.

        Were their encounters with Bill similar to the level of depravity of Donald’s? Are you confused by not knowing the difference between apples and a hulk who forces himself on women?
        If you need help understanding the difference, please let me know.

        You can do better than your response to “Jerryb”, by just applying yourself to think and look more deeply into matters in a clear-minded fashion.

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        1. plc97477 October 16, 2016

          Many of Bill’s “dalliances” were found to be baseless also.

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          1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            They sure were. Thanks for that. The “alleged rape case” the blight wingers are shouting about now was FULLY INVESTIGATED by local police in ARK and the ARK FBI long ago and they found no evidence to prosecute. FACTS.
            The rightists don’t need facts, just insinuations. They rush to judgment at the drop of a hat, and when told they NEED witnesses, faxes, letters, memos, records, emails, you know – PROOF OF WRONGDOING, they just say, “He’s guilty! She’s guilty! LOCK them up!” and other nonsensical utterances.
            That’s why they FAIL time and time again.
            Donald Frump is ON TAPE AND FILM bragging and LAUGHING about being a sexual predator and sexual assault, etc. He’s got WITNESSES talking against him, also.
            The left also has copies of his checks spent in Cuba in outright VIOLATION of Fed. law.
            Right wingers, that’s called PROOF….!!!!

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          2. PrecipitousDrop October 16, 2016

            It’s also called Really Sloppy accounting and legal work. If you can’t get rid of the evidence, HIDE it!

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          3. Jerryb October 16, 2016

            CORRECT, Sir!
            Donald Slumped had to be aware that he’d been on thousands of NY radio shows and TV shows over the decades and that he’d said some wild cheet on them. But somehow, his campaign team/s missed getting him to bury these tapes or tax returns, etc. You’d think he’d have had some high-paid flunkies try to doctor his returns or get Howard Stern to keep the radio interviews under wraps. But he didn’t because he’s an arrogant, privileged FOOL and now the PROOF is coming out to crush him.
            Even Rep. strategists admit that HRC is in GREAT SHAPE for the last three weeks. And Donald Flump can’t win the last debate – he still knows as much about govt. as a high chair.

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          4. idamag October 17, 2016

            When Bill Clinton ratified the Civil Rights Act for Arkansas, the racists went after him foaming at the mouth. None of his allegations were ever proven, except the one where he erred greatly in allowing himself to be seduced.

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        2. Jerryb October 16, 2016

          Thanks for that, Aaron. Box can apparently only think INSIDE the box, and then, only in a small corner where REALITY and RATIONALE can’t intrude.

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      2. Jerryb October 16, 2016

        Bill’s not RUNNING, and besides, HE MADE HIS APOLOGIES in the 1990s. He spoke for HIMSELF, I don’t have to speak for him.
        You need to apologize to women for the Donald’s outrageous sayings and actions. So the better question in this is: DON’T YOU owe WOMEN a little more?!
        The Donald’s NEVER made real apologies to Pres. Obama, WOMEN, Meds Cruz, Meds Cruz’s father, Heidi Cruz, John Waysick, Snarly Fiorina, John McSame, Paul Ruin, Rand Stall, etc. for his TEAplorable behavior.
        ALL FACTS.
        Try again, little man with weak posts….
        BTW, “don’t” is a contraction and has an apostrophe where I put it and where you should’ve placed it. Take a few adult night classes…

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        1. idamag October 17, 2016

          He is trying to sound smart, but all he is doing is removing all doubt.

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    2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

      Well said. And I too would like to apologize for a creature who looks like a man, appears human, but his actions define him as being anything but human and lower than a virus.

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      1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

        Thanks, Aaron. Yours was well-put as well.
        Did you notice that Box offered NO APOLOGY to women on behalf of connedservatives in his miserable TEAbuttals to all of this?
        Same as the Donald – it’s all about Bill Clinton, who’s NOT RUNNING and had consensual sex in his dalliances and who paid the price for his indiscretions.
        NOW, Donald is PAYING FOR HIS.

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  17. Box October 15, 2016

    Personally im not swayed by groping and its not a contest of who groped more, Bill or Trump even though Bill would win that hands down, no pun intended. No, I see the groping is compared to Hillary’s potential charges of espionage compared to Trumps groping.

    Before Bills time, sex encounters of Presidents, including affairs, gay affairs and pedophilia were kept completely quiet because we considered a presidents private life to be off limits. Bill Clinton opened the door to intense future scrutiny of candidates which is the current reason many qualified candidates on both sides dont seek the office.

    But Bill also elevated the bar of whats normal or acceptable. After all, humans are sexual creatures and being famous, especially a president, attracts more of it. Women literally threw themselves at Bill, and these two men’s behavior towards sex and women has been basically the same. Lincoln kept a gay lover, and living in the WH no less, JFK had numerous affairs, many of which we never got the details about, Bill was basically a sexual legend which is not a compliment. Question is, did the behavior make them a bad president? In those cases we turned our eyes and ears and let them do their jobs. So why not now too? Its not as if we have become a more moral society, not the least proof of which is the acceptance of Obama’s pot-smoking, twerking daughter, or even Michelle’s claim that Beyonce is a model for all women, Beyonce the twerking, half-naked dancer. So, if the standard of behavior has changed then its fair that the standard apply to all, and especially given in this circumstance that people are attracted to having sex with each other. I hope so or else we perish. If we let Bill be human, we let Trump be human too.

    But….we still need boundaries of professional behavior as presidents, boundaries that go straight to their jobs and when you overlay the allegation of Hillary’s espionage, there is no escape here. If you go search on Youtube you will find a video by Judge Napolitano, with no axe to grind with anybody, in which he details what espionage means and why Hillary would be guilty. Its older. Then now, with the reports that ALL FBI agents working the email case believed the charge should be espionage, and are now walking off their jobs because Comey wouldnt go that route, then the real line is drawn that says such behavior cannot be permitted of a president and thats the end of it.

    If we accept Bill Clintons extreme behavior as the benchmark, and knowing Trump could never come close to matching it, then its a non issue. Be fair and apply the same standard to all. Trump isnt accused of any crime that goes to a presidency like espionage does and thats where we draw the line. Hillary does not have to go to court for americans to draw a line. After all, everyone has convicted Trump without a trial, so convict Hillary too.

    Remember something I said before. Im a Democrat who liked Geraldine Ferraro, who ran with Mondale in 1984. They lost when something funny was discovered in her husbands finances, a problem not even her own. If you apply similar standard, even raising the bar a lot, both Clintons have to be kicked once and for all.

    In these daily threads moral standards are being applied. If you are unwilling to kick the Clintons then you are lying and its not about standards and we are back to arguing Communism vs. Capitalism for this election. Which is it?

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

      You’re trying hard to be fair in an odd way, but your emphasis clearly shows a helluva job of contortion and distortion as you try your best to skewer Bill. Why the preoccupation with Bill, Box? Do you harbor a personal grudge against Bill and the Clinton’s?
      Such an animus for Bill renders your pretense to be appalled by Trump’s action smacks of being disingenuous.

      Let’s leave it at that, OK?

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      1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

        YEP, these fright wingers love to OBSESS about Bill.
        If he’s not the subject of their ire, it’s HRC, or Pres. or Mrs.Obama, Al Gore, Reid, Pelosi, BLM, or Hillary’s emails or Benghazi, whatever.
        I wouldn’t be surprised if they start yelping about Whitewater in the next few weeks as they SINK into the SEA.
        VOTE FOR EVERY PROGRESSIVE ON YOUR BALLOT.

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        1. idamag October 17, 2016

          Whitewater’s prosecution team is endorsing Hillary with an apology for what they did.

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      2. idamag October 17, 2016

        When I see a trump sign in a yard, and there are very few, I wonder if little girls should be warned not to walk on that side of the street. It takes one to champion one.

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        1. Jerryb October 17, 2016

          WELL PUT, Idamag! Can you imagine pretty young girls in the White House with this perv as the Chief Executive??!!
          Rightists are ALL WRONG for supporting this deviant! Merv the Perv should’ve gotten help LONG AGO….!!

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      3. plc97477 October 18, 2016

        I think boxes problem with Bill is jealousy. Hillary is a very good looking lady.

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    2. I Am Helpy October 16, 2016

      You don’t care about other people or actual criminal acts against them. Got it.

      As I always say, it’s a real timesaver when people straight-up announce that they’re garbage.

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    3. Jerryb October 16, 2016

      Your post is WAY OFF in many respects. I’ll just answer a few. First off, Gary Hart’s dalliance with Donna Rice was the first sex scandal among politicians. THAT’S THE ONE that CHANGED IT ALL.
      The GOP tried to get the electorate to reject Gov. Clinton for his so-called dalliances, but the tactic FAILed because DUDdy Bush and Reagoonomics were bigger FAILs, and the FAILING economy and HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT mattered to more voters than so-called, unproved affairs from long ago. The GOPeanut Gallery spent 8 yrs. trying to destroy the Clinton Presidency with paid sluts from ARK brought out to LIE about him.
      Paula Jones, to name one, had her case THROWN OUT by a female judge because he left the hotel room, clothes and make-up unruffled, minutes after entering. NO REAL PROOF of anything other than a clumsy advance, if that. Monica was a paid slut, also, who CAME to D.C. to seduce the POTUS and keep evidence on her dress. FACTS.
      A lot of your claims are just imaginative assertions. There’s no real proof whatsoever that Lincoln was gay. Nice try.
      Back to Rommel Trump. His campaign is DOOMED by his connections to the alt-right extremists, his shady business dealings in Russia, his Russian moles on his campaign team, PROOF of his groping and sexual assaults, WITNESSES to said groping and sexual assaults, and his tax returns showing he’s not the businessman he’s claimed to be. He LOST $916 million in one year and that’s a FACT shown by the NY Times. He’s FOS.
      On Nov. 8, he LOSES and it’ll be YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE…..!!!!

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  18. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 15, 2016

    It’s time to review some of “Box” ‘s comments on the business of Trump’s behavior. I think you’ll see that Box is disingenuous, deceitful, and not coherent in thought.

    Point 1: Box said— “Remember something I said before. Im a Democrat who liked Geraldine Ferraro, who ran with Mondale in 1984. They lost when something funny was discovered in her husbands finances, a problem not even her own. If you apply similar standard, even raising the bar a lot, both Clintons have to be kicked once and for all.
    In these daily threads moral standards are being applied. If you are unwilling to kick the Clintons then you are lying and its not about standards and we are back to arguing Communism vs. Capitalism for this election. Which is it?”
    ———————————————————————————————————–
    Summary 1a: Box is trying to cover up for Trump in a clever way by bringing in Bill, and alluding to Hillary as being responsible for Bill’s former actions. Box wishes us to consider Bill’s behavior in order to cloud the issue of Trump while feigning concern for fair-play.

    Summary 1b: Box likes to throw a curve ball, by citing he’s a Democrat. This ploy would appear to allow him to have some breathing room by leading us to think–“Oh, Gee! He’ s a Democrat so we should take him more seriously”. Again, Box’s effort is to switch the conversation from Donald to Bill.

    Summary 1c: Box concludes his point here by saying that if we’re unwilling to kick Clinton then we shouldn’t be kicking Trump. Here we have Box trying to compare “apples” with “oranges”. Then, in an attempt to further obscure the issue he brings up “Communism vs Captalism”. At this point, Box is so confused and delirious that he has completely lost track of the story—a story which is about Trump’s bald-face hypocrisy, not once, but numerous times.

    Point 2: Box, in a complete contradiction which clearly outlines his duplicity, makes the following glaring and fatal mistake, playing his hand by saying:
    “Personally im[sic] not swayed by groping and its not a contest of who groped more, Bill or Trump even though Bill would win that hands down, no pun intended. No, I see the problem as Hillary’s potential charges of espionage compared to Trumps groping.”

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    Summary 2a: So, here we have it. Box is less interested in groping, a clear charge against Trump, and one in which he proudly proclaimed he would and could do because he’s a star. Box isn’t swayed by the trauma of women being imposed on by Trump and being fondled by this big ape of a human. Instead, Box is more concerned about “the potential charges of espionage”, despite Trump’s expressed affinity for Assad, Putin, and other despots. For Box, the issue of “potential charges” of espionage outweighs sexual assault committed by Trump.

    Summary 2b: Box lamely tries to be humorous by alleging that Bill would win in a groping contest against Donald, “hands down”. Again, Box shows an incredibly despicable and depraved mind in treating all of Trump’s assaults as though they
    were merry pranks.

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    The final summary is that Box approves of sexual assaults against women, tries his best at obfuscation by mixing in irrelevant topics, and then washes his hands and feels smug and secure that whatever Bill or Hillary did makes Trump’s actions OK, and that he feels we should forget that the whole matter of sexual assault ever happened and should be conveniently forgotten–as though it’s just a matter of a “Do Over”, to quote a line from “City Slickers”.

    Box, you’re a pitiful and pathetic weak-willed and weak-minded individual who needs to review what it means to be decent human being concerned about the status and on-going abuse against women. Until you learn this lesson, please keep your mouth shut unless you have something to say that expresses that you’re a noble human being.

    “O Son of Being! Noble have I created thee, but thou hast abased thyself. Rise then unto that for which thou wast created”. (from Baha’u’llah’s ‘The Hidden Words’)

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    1. Jon October 16, 2016

      Excellent rebuttal Aaron. You gave Box too much credit though by spending so much time typing. While your rebuttal is thorough and factual, Box won’t be persuaded by reason and logic. I no longer spend much time replying to him for that reason. He usually shows his lack of knowledge and has proved to be incapable of learning. He reminds me of the saying used to describe a person who is exceptionally dimwitted — dumb as a box of rocks.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 16, 2016

        I just had to release some tension in the face of Box’s prattle and Trump’s never-ending parade of sordid behavior. And also as a reminder for the AgLander’s, “itsfun”‘s, Otto’s,”InformedVoter” ‘s, etc. in the world.

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      2. idamag October 17, 2016

        Why should we waste time even reading what that low educated diptin writes?

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        1. Jon October 17, 2016

          The main reason to read their comments here and on right wing websites is to get a better understanding of abnormal thinking. I used to spend too much time replying to them. I found that was a waste of time because they lie, make up things, rely on alt.right websites for their “facts”, cannot argue in a rational and logical manner, and resort to immature name-calling and personal attacks as if that proves their point. I either don’t reply or make it a very short one now.

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    2. Gerry Francis October 16, 2016

      Forget about all that……where’s the ‘PROOF’ that Pence promised?

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 16, 2016

        All of what I listed as fallacies in the responses of Box, Trump, etc. to the charges, serve as a backdrop and canvass of a morally corrupt person with an irreparably damaged psyche, who barely resembles a human being anymore.

        As for proof, it’s only a pipe-dream of Pence’s, hoping desperately to save face and white-wash that which is indelibly etched on Trump’s character.

        So, we’re not holding our breath for proof.

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        1. Jerryb October 16, 2016

          Mike Tense HAS no proof that will exonerate Reichfuehrer Drumpf of anything. The TAPES AND FILM say it all and cannot be disputed, even by nonsense-minded TEAtrollicans.
          Tense can only hope he won’t be too tarnished by this. He can only hope he’ll survive the YUUUUGE loss to come and regroup as the party front-runner for ’20. He’ll get WIPED OUT by an incumbent Pres. Clinton then, if he even gets the nomination! But whoever gets the GOPee nod will get CRUSHED.
          The party’s agenda has been fully exposed for the nothingness it is, and they have no decent candidates, besides Mike Dense, to derail the Clinton Admin.

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 16, 2016

            Right on, and amen to that!! “Mike Dense”—clever of you.

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          2. Jerryb October 17, 2016

            Thanks, Aaron.
            I switch off to Mike Tense at times for variety. LOL

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          3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 17, 2016

            “Mike Tense”—lol.

            You’re a riot, Jerry, a regular riot!! Thanks for giving me more to chuckle about.

            Signed—Aaron(aka, “Aaron Ralph Kramden”)

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          4. Jerryb October 17, 2016

            Glad ya dig it, Aaron!
            And for his boss, I’ve got:
            Kaiser Donald the First , Mein Drumpf, Mein Trump, Rommel Trump, Conned-all Trump, Drivel Trump, and D’anal Rump! Collect ’em all!
            LOL

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      2. Jerryb October 16, 2016

        He’ll need more time, Gerry.
        He’s still hiding Donald’s truckloads of tax returns in Dick Shamedme’s undisclosed location…

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      3. idamag October 17, 2016

        Remember when trump got on cable television and said, he had investigators working on Obama birth certificate and had absolute proof that Obama was born in Kenya. While we were waiting for his proof, he changed his mind.

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        1. Jerryb October 17, 2016

          CORRECT.
          The guy who REALLY WROTE ‘The Art of The Deal’ says Donald has short attention span and can’t focus for more than 10 minutes at at time. He says he WROTE the book and Trumped-up just supplied comments and stats, etc.
          GOP = ADHD

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    3. Sand_Cat October 16, 2016

      I admire your posts, but are “Box” ‘s deranged fantasies really worth your effort?
      These guys thrive on attempts to meet their insanity with rational argument and actual facts. It depresses me to see article after article on this and other sites where some jerk has essentially taken over the comments, often with well over half dedicated to attempts to respond with facts, followed by his ongoing dismissals.

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      1. PrecipitousDrop October 16, 2016

        Isn’t that the epitome of trolling — hijacking the board to turn all attention to the troll?

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      2. idamag October 17, 2016

        August 29 issue of Time Magazine has an entire issue devoted to people like box. The cover says, “Why we’re losing the internet to the culture of hate.” One of the articles, inside, profiles trolls. It is not a very flattering picture.

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        1. Jerryb October 17, 2016

          I read it. Interesting article. Rolling Stone recently had a good one about the Culture of FEAR. Check out how the right wing fear-mongers manipulate their sheeple and TEAople.

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          1. idamag October 18, 2016

            I want to read that article. I have seen this fear mongering for quite a while now.

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          2. Jerryb October 18, 2016

            Good. It’s called THE AGE OF FEAR and Bruce Springsteen is on the cover. It’s the latest issue. Good article….

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        2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 17, 2016

          I read that issue also and will save it because of the accurate and disturbing profile it paints of a people who are truly wrapped in a darkness that is hard to understand. How anyone could be so delusional and sick as Trump and his supporters are, is hard to fully comprehend.

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          1. idamag October 18, 2016

            Each time one of those deplorables post, on here, we can visualize the type of person they are. The United States would be much better off without them.

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          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 18, 2016

            The ignorant in American Society who write and broadcast the sort of bile we occasionally see here are a menace not only to America and what it should stand for, but represent a danger anywhere else on the planet. We would be better off transporting them to a penal colony like the Klingon Penal colony “Rura Penthe”, or try to rehabilitate them here—an exercise most likely to fail as well.

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          3. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Please, NO, Ida!
            Loud, long political disagreement is one of the most thrilling aspects of our freedoms! It’s vexing as hell — I get that — but, please don’t take up the notion that we would be, somehow, “better off” without disagreeing and disagreeable voices.

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          4. Jerryb October 18, 2016

            YEP.
            They don’t like liberals, or long, hot soapy baths/showers.
            The Party of Lincoln is now the Party of STINKIN’.
            LOL

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    4. Jerryb October 16, 2016

      GREAT rebuttal, Aaron…!!

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    5. idamag October 17, 2016

      If Bill’s transgression should reflect on Hillary, then Melania’s bare gluteal mass all over the internet should reflect on trump. When hitler attacked the United States, the Nazi party became very unpopular. They were 30,000 strong in this country. They went underground and many of them came out as John Birchers. Hitler hated communists and the JB’s hated communists. Keep a body strong and it has more resistance to disease. Restore Democracy’s strengths and shut up about communism. Do we have capitalism? No. We have an oligarchy. You are right on the mark with your comments.

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  19. Jerryb October 16, 2016

    GOP CIVIL WAR will be more entertaining than CAPT. AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, I can assure you.
    The fighting factions will be:
    GOPreventers vs. TEAanderthals against Libertoonians fighting CEOs shooting at NRAgents-of-death against RINOs throwing punches at Trumpaholics who’ll be allied with KKKlansmen and Nazis but pushing around Log Cabin Realdumblicans who’ll be kicking around the GOPee moderates.
    I LOVE IT!

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 16, 2016

      Those factions are accurate portrayals of a huuuuge segment Trump Nation running helter skelter like chickens with their heads cut off.

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    2. idamag October 17, 2016

      See any resemblance to civilized people in that basket you mentioned?

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      1. Jerryb October 17, 2016

        NOT MUCH, they’ve been totally propagandized by the neo-Nutzi reich wingers. They’re fully accredited TEAanderthals with S.S. honors, at this point. TRULY TEAplorable in so many ways….!!!

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  20. Eleanore Whitaker October 17, 2016

    Anyone who thinks Trump is not amassing all the worst violent people in this country now have solid proof. 3 men in Kansas planned to use 3 or 4 cars loaded with bombs to blow up a small minority of Somalians.

    When one of these big mouths was being hauled off to jail, he stated that “Americans need to wake up and smell the coffee” and then proceeded to use every one of Trump’s talking points about immigrants stealing jobs, about how poor whites cannot find work, on and on and on. But these 3 lazy bums have time to sit around and listen to Trump right?

    Anyone else sick and tired of the southern and midwestern excuses for laziness? Look at from an economic standpoint. Their states take 65% of every tax dollar leaving Dems states a lousy 55 cents for the $1 we pay in federal taxes. But, to rub salt in the wounds IA, KS, LA, NC, MS, WI and OK all cry poverty. ONLY to take more of our tax dollars. Try to get them to get rid of their relic industries that hold the rest of us hostage to their constant pollution clean up and their pollution fines and you see why their lies about the deficit and national debt come directly from them and the spending their GOP politicians send their way.

    10 of the GOP states ranks highest in those who collect welfare. Another half dozen eat up SSDI. But then, to deflect these facts, they blame immigrants and any one else they can so they won’t have to get off their duffs and get a real job.

    The national debt is caused by their industries the rest of us are expected to keep flush with billions of tax subsidies and tax cuts. Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Oil, For Profit Prisons and their military industries that keep us in endless war to keep THEM in profit.

    They can whine and deflect blame all they like. NOW the spotlight is on them. Time to FORCE them to explain what in the evil name of hell they do with ALL the money flushed to their states? The Republican states on the edge of financial doom rely all too heavily on federal tax dollars and then demand Dem states rely on our state tax dollars to pay for our states’ needs. That’s BS. It forces Dem states to be the sole support of these lazy bums.

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    1. InformedVoter October 17, 2016

      More drivel. Please explain why, if all the blue states are so great to live in that, when it comes time to retire, these folks move to the “rotten red states”? Most blue states have more folks collecting from the government than they have folks working. California, NY and Hawaii are in a death spiral. But since you don’t have much of an education and worked mostly clerical jobs, what else would one expect from you?

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 17, 2016

        Maybe, stupid…some move out of blue states because they figure, “What the hell? I paid a lifetime for the lazy bums in the south and midwest to live high on the hog. It’s time I got some ROI.” Wow…you are such a dumb bunny.

        The Dems states if you bother to EVER check facts, get an average of 55 cents for the $1 we pay in taxes. EVERY one of your Republican FREELOADER states get from $1.35 up to Alaska’s $1.87 for the $1 they pay in federal taxes.

        Get off that trailer trash butt and get a job. I am fed up trying to support MY state and yours you lazy bum.

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        1. InformedVoter October 17, 2016

          Please tell me you’re joking! Even you can’t be that stupid. No one retires to a place to get some ROI! They retire to improve their standard of living. The climate, taxes, etc. The reason they relocate from the blue state to a red state to retire is because they realize that their life will improve with the move. And your claim about checking facts it totally fake! The reason the states you claim get less in return is that they get taxed and taxed. But that does not alter the fact that these states have MORE folks collecting welfare than working. Those poor bastards who are working are getting taxed up their butts. That’s part of the reason they escape to red states. Another fact you dummies don’t get is that when you libtards retire to a better state to live in, the first thing they try to do is to change their new state to match their old state. They’re so stupid that they don’t realize they will then destroy their new dream state.
          Must you prove you are so low information every time you post? Do you even read what you write? Apparently not!

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          1. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            OK thanks for explaining that they’re just freeloading because they … want to? I honestly don’t think you even read what you post any more, frankly.

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          2. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            This is exactly what I was talking about when I labelled you a low information fool. I NEVER said they retired to a red state to freeload. That was your fellow low information dummy Eleanore. I refuted her stupid statement that folks don’t retire and relocate to freeload. They relocate to improve their standard of living and in this case, it means moving from a blue state to a red state. Yet dummies like Eleanore and ID1 keep claiming that red states are less desirable states to live in. If that were truly the case, then why would folks relocate from blue states to red states when they retire. I await your stupid response.

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          3. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            OK sorry that you think anyone is going to take your incoherent word for something. A reminder, though: you literally fell for the dumbest, most lazy, MS Paint hoax possible, and nobody should ever take your opinion seriously (not that you can articulate one in the first place).

            I hope that helps!

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          4. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            You claim the emails that I refer to don’t exist. OK, then please explain why Debbie W-S resigned during the Dem convention? Please explain those arrested at Trump rallies for causing violence said they were paid by the DNC to commit those acts of violence?
            Yes you keep saying these emails don’t exist, but you are just fooling yourself.
            You should enjoy this latest on HilLIARy.
            https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/mPG0jk_uxNc?rel=0

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          5. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            A better answer would have been to link to the emails you’re talking about. You can’t do that, though, as they are 100% fictitious.

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          6. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            So according to you, Debbie W-S resigned as chair of the DNC over emails that don’t exist! With logic like yours, no wonder you’re called low information.

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          7. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            Sorry you can’t seem to find the emails that you claimed existed! It’s because you’re a poorly-informed conspiracy theorist motivated by dumb grudges and racism.

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          8. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Debbie W-S didn’t resign over fixing the primaries? Under what rock do you live? Talk about being low information – you just continue to prove my comments.

            I guess the following statement about the non-existent emails has no value. You and your low information crowd just bury your heads in the sand and deny everything.

            WND indicates that the number of leaked emails in now over 15,000, but according to you, no emails exist!

            Read it at go bury you head.

            Hillary Clinton has not had it easy lately. WikiLeaks continues to publish damning evidence against her and her campaign staff on a number of different issues-Anti-Catholicism views, corruption at her family foundation, reports of her husband’s continued infidelity, leaked emails which show her pro-Wall Street mindset, low likeability rating… the list goes on and on.

            In addition, Hillary has had to battle against rumors of her deteriorating health and questioning her stamina.

            Now Hillary is being forced to deal with yet another issue-violence at her campaign rallies. Recent reports from campaign stop attendees and viral videos from inside her campaign speeches show a very different-perhaps even dangerous-tone than the one the liberal media talks about.

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          9. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            To sum up:

            1. You can provide no evidence for any of your claims. Not one shred.

            2. You wilfully misrepresent the facts behind the DWS resignation.
            2a. You are too dim to understand that DWS is not Hillary Clinton, the next President, in the first place.
            3. You substitute insults in lieu of the arguments you are unable to make.

            I can’t imagine why people think you’re an illiterate dimwit who argues in bad faith. Sorry you made some stupid, stupid assertions – even if there was a shred of truth in any of them (and you’ve shown there is not) that wouldnt make up for the fact you were totally fooled by an obvious forgery assembled in MS Paint, though. And that when the hoaxer came forward, you doubled down on it, because – like all dumb bigots – you are utterly incapable of admitting you got sucked in by a trick that wouldn’t mislead a small child.

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          10. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Considering that it’s the left that resorts to insults, I find it interesting that you had your ego bruised because I labelled you low information. Yet, with each succeeding post, you continue to prove my label correct.
            Why do you think Deb resigned? It wasn’t because she was too pretty! It was emails between her and HilLIARy that showed what Bernie claimed all along was true. So the emails you keep claiming don’t exist certainly caused Deb to resign. To claim otherwise only demonstrates how low information you are.
            I made substantiated claims that HilLIARy crapped on many in her emails. You continue to deny those emails exist. How dumb does that make you look? You have to be one of the lowest information posters around.
            Forgery assembled in MS paint, what the hell is that supposed to mean? Do you think I threw something together or that several, non-liberal news sources, have been quoting the leaked emails for months (back to dear Deb having to resign) that they are just making it up?
            You are beyond hope. What’s a shame is that they allow someone as low information to vote. I guess there’s no cure for stupid. Thank you for helping prove that any award you obtained was for participation and not truly earned!

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          11. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            Weird how you cannot – despite being directly and explicitly asked to six or seven times now – seem to quote any one of these emails that backs up your deeply stupid claims! It’s almost like you’re lying!

            PS: sorry that you cannot understand why DWS resigned, or that she is not actually Hillary Clinton – it’s diagnostic of your lack of intellectual capacity, but other than amusing me has nothing to do with your conspiracy theories, which remain of the sort that only a credulous failure could possibly be gullible enough to buy in to.

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          12. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            But to answer your questions and “points”:
            1. DWS did not resign over “fixing” the primaries. You could look this up!
            2. I never said the emails were non-existent – I said that none of them have backed up your claims. You conspicuously fail to link to any that do.
            3. WND is a racist conspiracy theory site that no adult human takes seriously.
            4. Hillary Clinton has, in fact, had it easy lately. Donald Trump is spectacularly self-destructing.
            4a. I have no idea where you get his stuff.
            5. “We made up some dumb lies and nothing happened”.
            6. “Violence” at her campaign rallies is a thing that never happened.

            I hope that helps! Sorry you are so muddle-headed!

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          13. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Typical low information left response to non-liberal sources “they’re wrong, racist, etc”, HilLIARy, according to the poll that has been the most accurate in the past three presidential elections has Trump up by 1 point.
            The violence issue is included in the leaked emails, that it was DNC paid protesters who caused disturbances at Trump rallies and it was DNC paid protesters who inflicted the violence on their own people to show violence.
            That 69 year-old woman who claimed she was roughed up at a Trump rally just admitted that it was fellow paid protesters who roughed her up.
            As to rallies, HilLIARy gets 300-400 to show up, while Trump gets thousands. So Trump is not self-destructing. He easily won the last debate. HilLIARy is losing black voters by the bushel. Obama carried 90+% and HilLIARy is only getting 70% and Trump is getting 16%. Without the black vote, HilLIARy can’t win. For Obama, blacks came out to support a black. HilLIARy “ain’t no way black” and so the black voters will not turn out to support her, a person with the highest rating of dislike who ever ran for president. You are low information because you only read the left MSM propaganda crap. Any you continue to prove it every time you post.

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          14. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            So no quote huh? You got nothing.

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          15. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            You certainly have earned the title “helpy dummy”. So from now on, when you post, you can expect a response identifying you as “helpy dummy”. You don’t even believe your own left biased sources. How dumb does that make you look? Pretty damn dumb!

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          16. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            So you got nothing, huh. Just like I’ve been saying all along. Can’t cite a single quote from any email to back up your dumb lies. Not one.

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          17. InformedVoter October 22, 2016

            Hey Helpy Dummy, So you don’t believe the NYT that Deb resigned because of leaked emails? You can hold your breath and say “you got nothing” all you wish, but deep down you know you’ve been destroyed! So how about admitting that, after writing several posts claiming she didn’t, Deb did resign because of the leaked emails. That would be a start towards your healing. Anyone reading our debate now knows you’re just a low information “Helpy Dummy”. Go lick your wounds and bury your head in shame!

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          18. I Am Helpy October 22, 2016

            Sorry you can’t seem to find a quote! It must be hard, believing stupid things.

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          19. InformedVoter October 22, 2016

            Hey Helpy Dummy, You sure are a sorry excuse aren’t you? You continue to claim I didn’t provide proof, when I sent you the NYT article link at least twice. I know, you must be claiming that the NYT is a wacko conservative, conspiracy source.
            So let’s get the facts straight here. First you claim there was no negative information about HilLIARy in any leaked emails because there were no leaked emails. Then you agreed there were leaked emails, but that Deb W-S did not resign because of anything negative in the non-existent leaked emails. You even boasted for me to “check it out”. So I provided the NYT story, and there are many others that out and out say Deb resigned because of the leaked emails. Yet you continue to say I provided no evidence that Deb resigned because of the leaked emails.
            I also claimed that much other damning information about HilLIARy was leaked in the some 15,000 emails. Yet you continue to claim that there were no leaked emails and that if there were, there was nothing negative about HiLIARy in those emails. You continue to make yourself look dumber and dumber. Even your fellow liberal posters have started to ignore your information as being of no value.
            It must be lonely living in that dark, dumb world of low information fools.
            Of course you can continue to ignore all information and news sources unless it’s MSNBC or CNN. But then again, you are one of the fourth idiots who actually tune in on these shows.
            http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/leaked-emails-reveal-smear-campaign-against-bestselling-author-jerome-corsi/
            Time for you to go away. You should never enter into a battle of wits when you are only half prepared! So long Helpy Dummy!

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          20. I Am Helpy October 22, 2016

            Here let me help you out: your next posts will contain insults, argue that I said something I never did, a new and unrelated debunked conspiracy theory, and YET ANOTHER conspicuous failure to quote an email backing up your original moronic claims.

            I hope that helps!

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          21. InformedVoter October 22, 2016

            Hey Helpy Dummy, Unfortunately for you, you can’t delete your statements. The entire world can see that you made stupid claims, and now you are claiming that you never made them. Nice try, but you are lying and it’s obvious for all to see. So go ahead and claim that HilLIARy NEVER wrote emails that caused Deb to resign. You still have not answered that have you? You said, on more than one occasion that Deb did NOT resign because of fixing the primary and that information was revealed in the leaked emails. So how come you keep denying you made that claim (more than once)? You should quit while you’re just known as Helpy Dummy. If you keep trying to refute my true facts and statements, you will only keep digging yourself a deeper hole. Have a nice day Helpy Dummy. Why your low information crowd keeps saying debunked when the only news source that says that are MSNBC and CNN and their entire viewer audience of 4. Meanwhile, ALL other news sources have acknowledged my claims as being accurate. And you wonder why you are referred to as low information and Helpy Dummy? You are now closing on pathetic to replace the description of dummy. All others who are reading these posts have stopped considering you as a person who can be believed. Helpy Dummy you continue to be!

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          22. I Am Helpy October 22, 2016

            OK so let’s see how I did:

            1. Feeble insults – CHECK
            2. Strawman claims about things I never said – CHECK
            3. New conspiracy claims – CHECK
            4. Utter failure to provide the evidence you insist exists – CHECK CHECK CHECK

            Perfect score! Your rating is “impotent liar”.

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          23. InformedVoter October 22, 2016

            Hey Helpy Dummy, I agree with you that you have:
            Continued to deny what all can see that you wrote;
            Continued to deny undeniable proof provided by me; and most importantly;
            Continued to show all that you are, by far, the dumbest person making posts.
            You have now been reassigned the name of “Helply Pathetic Dummy”
            Congrats, there’s only one title worse than your present one.
            It’s truly amazing that you even think you’re scoring any points in this discussion.
            You may be beyond help. Once more, it’s too bad they don’t have some sort of intelligence test given at the polls. You would never even come close to passing.
            As far as insults go, you keep saying I insulted you. Unfortunately for you, one can’t be insulted when the statements about them are TRUE! But then again, you’re too stupid to realize that! Even your fellow posters are aligning behind me and wish you would just go away. Your mother weeps that you were ever born and you no longer have any friends! According to Twitter, Rachel Madcow just proclaimed you as the most pathetic and the stupidest poster of all time. Good riddance “Helpy Pathetic Dummy”!

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          24. I Am Helpy October 22, 2016

            1. Petty insults – check
            2. Imaginary strawman arguments – check
            3. Even dumber conspiracy theory – check
            4. Failure to provide a single quote from a single email to back up incredibly dumb claims – check check check check check

            Your rating is: COWARD

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          25. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, You just keep ignoring the facts that you are wrong and keep watching MSNBC. They need to keep the 4 viewers they have. It’s frightening how low information your crowd is and yet you think you know what’s happening. You have definitely earned you title – Helpy Pathetic Dummy! Enjoy.

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          26. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

            OK sorry you fell for a dumb MS Paint hoax and – after initially doubling down – tried to pretend it never happened by Gish galloping to a different conspiracy theory, that you think that a neo-Nazi website that STILL thinks Obama was born in Kenya is credible evidence, and that you can’t quite seem to come up with any yourself (because there is none). No amount of juvenile abuse makes up for how publicly stupid you’ve been!

            I hope that helps!

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          27. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy: So you’re still claiming that Deb did NOT resign because of the leaked emails? You, more than once, said she did not resign because of the leaked emails. You can try to deny you never said it, but your words are here for all to see. So, yes or no.
            I predict you will respond that you never made that claim, but that would mean you would be caught in a lie (just like HilLIARy).

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          28. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

            OK, sorry you can’t admit you were publicly fooled, and can’t see that’s exactly why nobody takes your claims seriously. It must be weird, being both illiterate and gullible.

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          29. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, I was not the one fooled as what I claimed has been proven, by more than one media source, to be correct. On the other hand, you have been outed as being a total fool for thinking Deb did not resign because of the leaked emails.
            You continue to make yourself look dumber with each post. Try checking a news source other than MSNBC.

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          30. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

            Not really sure why you keep trying to make this about me – the topic here is how you can’t admit you were made a fool of. Are you still claiming that Hillary paid pollsters, even though the hoaxer came forward? I bet you are, you’re just that stupid.

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          31. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, Yes, it is about you! First you claimed that none of HilLIARy’s emails were leaked. Then you claimed that Deb did NOT resign because of leaked emails. This list goes on and on.
            Regarding paying “pollsters”, YES HilLIARy used what is called “push pollsters” – where she pays the “pollsters” to alter the response the person makes to the pollster and thus seems to be much more popular than she really is. I quoted a poll, one that was the most accurate in the last three presidential elections, and that poll shows Trump leading! The ABC, etc polls are using “push polling” – i.e., the pollsters are being paid by the DNC. No MS Paint or any other weird method you accuse me of falling for. The ones who disrupted Trump rallies were paid by the DNC. Even the ones who did the beating of those making the noise, were being paid by the DNC. The 69 year-old who claimed she was roughed up, now admits that it was her fellow “workers” who harmed her and she has dropped all assault charges and hopes she doesn’t get charged with making a false police report!
            Hope that helps! But in your case, you really are that low informed and stupid.

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          32. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

            Hahahahaha man I knew you couldn’t admit you got duped. So very, very stupid. I urge you to keep it up – it’s credulous, abusive, morons like you who have destroyed conservatism for the next decade.

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          33. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, For the record, I’ve never seen the MS Paint source you keep quoting that fooled me. Since I never saw it, I never read it, so how could I be duped by something I’ve never seen? See how dumb you are? You have been duped by it, not me! Did you check out “push polling”? I thought not. It was used by HilLIARy during the primaries and I’m sure she’s using it now. You are just too dense to check out something negative against crooked HilLIARy. Since the only poll that’s been accurate during the past 3 presidential elections, has Trump leading, you may have lots of catching up to do to try and figure why HilLIARy lost. Even the most ardent liberals are beginning to concede that the GOP will retain control of the House and Senate, even if Trump loses.
            Hope this helps!

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          34. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            OK sorry you can’t seem to provide any evidence except the opinions of neo-Nazi birthers who think the moon landing was a hoax.

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          35. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy – typical low information response. Change the subject and try to inject humor in the hopes that I’ll forget you failed to answer the question. I can play that game too. I know from your posts that you are a member of “The Flat Earth Society”. You share so many of their ideals. You must be afraid to travel to the “far East” lest you fall off the edge.

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          36. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Why can’t you quote a single email that supports your claims? What is so difficult about that?

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          37. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, I provided proof that Deb DID resign because of leaked emails. And it wasn’t some conservative site, but your bible, the NYT. So now you claim the NYT is some neo-Nazi birther site? Even PD threw you under the bus on this one. And I;m sure you are a charter member of the flat earth society, so why not admit it.

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          38. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Your meltdown has been going for a couple of days now. Why can’t you quote a single email to back up your claims (I mean, I already know the answer: your claims are 100% false)?

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          39. InformedVoter October 26, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, You are the one in meltdown mode. You still have not admitted that on several occasions that you said that Deb did NOT resign because of leaked emails. You have lost just about all your credibility on that. OK, you want proof that HilLIARy paid pollsters to fake results etc. Read these few (just the tip of the iceberg) that HilLIARy has in the past and is still paying pollsters to publish fake results.
            And don’t try that “these sites are conservative so I can’t believe them” bull. If you don’t believe them, then YOU PRODUCE sites that show HilLIARy DIDN’T pay pollsters!
            Read ’em and weep!
            http://thebernreport.com/pro-clinton-superpac-pays-for-a-poll-to-show-her-winning-the-debate
            http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/301220-you-cant-trust-polls-clintons-winning-but-our-polling-methods-are
            https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/media-polling-fully-exposed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/new-podesta-email-exposes-dem-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples

            http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/leaked-clinton-internal-document-discourage-trump-supporters-bogus-polls-declaring-election/

            I’m sure you’re barfing all over the place because you have once again been shown to be low information. Good bye!

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          40. I Am Helpy October 26, 2016

            OK sorry you can’t quote a single email; it’s just because you’re a dumb gullible liar.

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          41. InformedVoter October 26, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were only semi-literate. If you bothered to read the few links, they say that the HilLIARy’s emails showed … So for you to even post that “you can’t quote …” shows how utterly stupid you are. You have no place to hide your ignorance as it’s out there for the world to see.
            You can continue to lie and you can continue to say no leaked emails showed HilLIARy paid pollsters, but you will just keep showing you are a LIAR and a dumb one at that.
            You best beware of where and what you post in the future. You have NO credibility and now you have proven no knowledge. You will be outed each and every time you make a stupid post! You proved to be even less of a challenge than your fellow low information posters. YOU LOST and big time AND you know it. You are just too stupid to realize it.

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          42. I Am Helpy October 26, 2016

            See previous post; sorry you can’t find a quote and instead have to argue about imaginary things. I’d expect no less .

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          43. InformedVoter October 27, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy, You and PD LOST and you both just admitted it! HA, HA. Losers both!

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          44. PrecipitousDrop October 27, 2016

            I’m glad you’re happy, Misinformed, but, why are you still HERE?.

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          45. I Am Helpy October 27, 2016

            See previous post; it’s amazing that you’re so crazy that you think I even read your posts. Sorry you can’t back up your dumb lies!

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          46. PrecipitousDrop October 27, 2016

            What’s UP with Misinformed Voter and his Debbie Wasserman-Schultz fixation?!
            He’s been at it for DAYS.
            Weird, huh?

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          47. I Am Helpy October 27, 2016

            It’s incredibly funny; I don’t even remember what his original crazy claims were, and I suspect he doesn’t either. I just know he can’t ever prove them but also can’t back down.

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          48. PrecipitousDrop October 27, 2016

            Really, Misinformed? I mean, Really?
            Even after you said Good bye?
            Please, just run along now. Go.

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          49. PrecipitousDrop October 27, 2016

            There are some fairly effective treatments for obsessive/compulsive disorders, Misinformed — they’re expensive, but it doesn’t cost anything to look into it, OK?
            Get help soon.

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          50. InformedVoter October 27, 2016

            You and Helpy Pathetic Dummy LOST but you’re just too stubborn to admit it. Helpy Pathetic Dummy is in need of help. He posts something, gets proven wrong, yet keeps claiming he never posted it. You are not helping him by your stupid comments, as it just demonstrates your low information intelligence.

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          51. PrecipitousDrop October 27, 2016

            So, what does it really mean when you say ‘good bye’, Misinformed?
            Do you have your own spin on the concept?

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          52. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            PS it’s amazing & weird – although not more so than your inability to back up a single one of your assertions – that you are claiming haven’t seen the thing I’ve posted three or four times in reply to your posts.

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          53. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Dummy – you sent a picture of something that was not related to what we were discussing, so I never read that “joke”. So you claim you sent something 3 or 4 times, another lie! You are running out of excuses as to why you lied about the reason Deb resigned. No comment? No surprise there. Like I posted earlier even PD has thrown you under the bus on this one. Perhaps pathetic dummy isn’t strong enough to describe you.

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          54. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            A better answer would have included some evidence for your claims; you can’t do that, though, as they are 100% false. No amount of trying to change the topic will work: you are a liar and you fell for the world’s laziest troll. It’s hilarious that you think anyone will take your opinion seriously.

            I hope that helps!

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          55. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            Hey Helpy Pathetic Flat Earth Society Dummy, I stand by my statement that I’ve never seen or read the source you claimed that fooled you. You are the one who changed the subject, not me! You can’t even keep your lies straight! No one has any faith in anything that you post and you wonder why. Meanwhile, I continue to destroy posters like you, Eleanore, Independent1 etc. You low information fools make it soooo easy, because the only source of information you have is from MSNBC. Enjoy listening to the state of the union message from President Trump!

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          56. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            See previous post.

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          57. I Am Helpy October 23, 2016

            PS: Sorry you still think this is about imaginary things I never said; it’s about how you’re a conspiracy theorist but can’t provide any evidence for your claims (NB: a bunch of white nationalist birthers agreeing with you is not actually “evidence”).

            I hope that helps!

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          58. InformedVoter October 24, 2016

            So Helpy Pathetic Dummy, Now you claim you NEVER said that Deb’s resignation wasn’t because of leaked emails? You’re a bigger liar than HilLIARy! Even PrecipitousDrop admits you are wrong when you claimed Deb didn’t resign because of the leaked emails. You are losing credibility among you own fellow liberal posters. And you wonder how you earned your name.

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          59. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            Hey do you think the President was born in Kenya and is a Secret Muslim?

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          60. PrecipitousDrop October 22, 2016

            Wow.
            Helpy’s prediction was spot on!

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          61. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            His “prediction” was predicated on lies and you, hopefully, are intelligent enough to know that. No matter. You just keep viewing MSNBC, like Helpy Pathetic Dummy, because you represent half their viewing audience.
            So now you are claiming that Deb W-S did NOT resign because of leaked emails? If you do, then you have proven that Helpy Pathetic Dummy is as his name describes him. If you don’t, then that means you are claiming that the NYT and ALL the other news sources are incorrect. You’ve certainly backed yourself into a corner. Pick your poison!

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          62. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

            “Pick your poison!”
            Awww, Misiformed…aren’t you just the Living End!
            I DID pick my poison, baby, and it’s You. Now get over here and give us a kiss.

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          63. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Are you really that low information? You posted that you agreed with Helpy Pathetic Dummy so that means that:
            1) you believe that Debbie W-S did not resign because of the leaked emails, which every news source says is true, or
            2) you believe that Debbie DID resign because of the leaked emails, which means you have just thrown Helpy Pathetic Dummy under the bus.
            That is the corner you’ve gotten yourself into, so you can pretend and act dumb (really easy for you) or you can man-up and state which position you believe in.

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          64. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

            Aww, C’mon. Gimme some Sugar…

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          65. InformedVoter October 23, 2016

            Typical low information poster – ignore the subject and just type whatever comes into you small mind. That is what Aaron does when he posts.
            So why can’t you say what you know to be the truth (unlike Helpy Pathetic Dummy)? Do you believe D W-S was forced to resign because of leaked emails? If you’re not going to answer, don’t waste your time responding.

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          66. PrecipitousDrop October 23, 2016

            Kiss me, you Fool!

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          67. PrecipitousDrop October 22, 2016

            What’s the matter, Misinformed?
            You’ve become so dismal over the last day or so! All of your posts are “…you’re destroyed…” and childish name-calling.
            Did you have a fight with your lover?
            The landlady kicked you out?
            Your car won’t start?
            Tummy ache?
            Whatever your trouble, please leave your keyboard and deal with it.
            Don’t worry about us. Your friends will be here when you get back.

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          68. InformedVoter October 22, 2016

            Thanks for your concern, but I’m doing just fine. However, your social media pages just revealed that your boyfriend has run off with your mother, after she murdered the doctor,who gave your illegitimate child, the illegal drugs that you normally sell to Helpy Dummy. This was just on MSNBC and Rachel Madcow was laughing at Helpy Dummy because he didn’t believe that there were damaging emails about HilLIARy. Social media is still piecing how Eleanore had enough evidence to blackmail you. Have a nice day!

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          69. PrecipitousDrop October 22, 2016

            Whew!
            Glad you’re back in your FantasyLand!
            I was worried about you, old son.

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          70. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Even your extremely left-leaning NYT reports that Deb resigned because of leaked emails that showed Sanders claim of fixed primaries was true. Now how dumb does this make you. And this one was soooooo easy. You, on more than one occasion claimed Deb didn’t resign because of the email scandal of her being involved with HilLIARy to fix the primary. You are truly a sad specimen.

            Debbie Wasserman Schultz to Resign DNC Post – The New York Times

            http://www.nytimes.com/…/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-...

            The New York Times

            Jul 24, 2016 – PHILADELPHIA —Democrats arrived at their nominating convention on Sunday under a cloud of discord as Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, abruptly said she was resigning after a trove of leaked emails showed party officials conspiring to sabotage the campaign of Senator Bernie .

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          71. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            OK sorry you can’t come up with a single quote to support your claims. Not one. I don’t see how doubling down on a new false claim about someone other than Clinton is going to prove anything more than how gullible you are, but you do you!

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          72. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            You claim Deb did not resign over leaked emails and you are so dumb you even claimed “check it out”. You further claim I produced no evidence. So according to you, the NYT is not good enough.
            You have been outed as a low information LIAR!! You can either accept that description of you or the one that calls you the dumbest poster. Take your pick.

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          73. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            So no quote. Weird! It’s like all you can do is link to other dumb liars like yourself making the same assertions, yet can’t cite the actual parts of the email that prove your 100% fictitious claims. Who would have thought, aside from everyone.

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          74. I Am Helpy October 21, 2016

            PS: DWS did not resign because she was caught “rigging” the election. It’s freaking hilarious that you call OTHER PEOPLE “low information” when you can’t even get basic facts about public events right. You ought to be ashamed, although obviously as a Trump voter you lack the capacity.

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      2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 17, 2016

        Hello uninformed voter. You and your twin, AgLander, are as dense as concrete in the thinking department. Has any of what has transpired and come to light added to your dearth of information? Is your brain stuck in “Neutral” and unable to move forward?
        Try as much as you may to struggle free, you are stuck to the idiocy of supporting Trump like a fly is to flypaper.

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        1. InformedVoter October 17, 2016

          As usual you sling words around, yet you have no idea of their true meanings! Idiots like you retire to red states to improve their lives. It’s your life long dream to relocate to a better place to live out your remaining years in a better state. Why didn’t you jump on Eleanore about how dumb she looks when she claimed they retired to get an ROI? How dumb can one be? They retire because their way of life will improve by retiring to a red state. Ask yourself why? It sure ain’t for ROI!
          Some advice, next time, try including some thoughts of value and cut the bull of using words that are way over your level of comprehension.

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 17, 2016

            As usual, you’ve chosen to revert to a stage of child-like behavior—petulant, peevish, and belligerent. By continuing to act and write your thoughts in a juvenile manner, you’ve shown us that you’re willing to shirk your obligation to be an adult, and have settled to act as a child. Thus, you’ve proved how uninformed you are of the duties of being mature.

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          2. InformedVoter October 18, 2016

            Your way of saying things is strange. Your fluent phrases twist and change, How shall I know that you mean, with true and false to choose between? That just about sums up your words of drivel.

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          3. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Aaron of Portsmouth is quite articulate, Misinformed.
            Your inability to comprehend is defective.

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          4. InformedVoter October 18, 2016

            Aaron has nothing of value to contribute, but in an attempt to make poorly educated folks (like yourself) think he’s knowledgeable, he spews words around, mostly using them incorrectly. That way he can deny claiming something when he gets proven wrong (like just about all the time). Plausible deniability is the term.

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          5. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Fish around some more in your limited lexicon. “Plausible deniability…” isn’t even close.

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          6. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            OK, try malapropisms, except Aaron isn’t close to being funny.

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          7. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 18, 2016

            What I say, and what others here say, is strange to you because your experience is limited, and your knowledge of other trends of thought and cultures are severely ham-strung due to a mental myopia that is most virulent among conservatives.
            Once you become truly informed, and not misinformed, you’ll learn to appreciate what I and others have to say. Right now, you’re boxed in a corner with a straitjacket around your mind.

            Fare thee well, misinformed one.

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          8. InformedVoter October 18, 2016

            You spew words that have been used incorrectly. You are trying to impress folks, but the only ones impressed are small children (smarter than most of your fellow lefty posters) and dogs. You make verbose posts that contain extremely little fact or information. Then when you get exposed (just about all of the time) you claim you were misunderstood. The term is plausible deniability.

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          9. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 18, 2016

            Your bellyaching is a waste of your breath, misinformed one. What do you hope to accomplish aside from relieving your self of excess hot gas in your system?

            Did anyone ever tell you that the name you refer to yourself
            as, is the acme of hubris and self-conceit? Well, if I or anyone else hasn’t, then consider yourself possessed of a bloated ego by your choice of name “InformedVoter”. It speaks volumes of your ignorance, sense of self-importance, and a gigantic ego to boot—much like Trump.

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          10. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            You’re the one who’s complaining. And why? Because you spew words without value. You’re not even funny like a malapropism. My handle perfectly describes my posts. Only the low information jerks like you can’t comprehend the truth.

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          11. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            Hi, sorry to interrupt, but I was worried you didn’t see my earlier post elsewhere about this insanely obvious hoax that you fell for:

            https://twitter.com/therealcornett/status/786950941706637312

            Can you explain why anyone should ever take you seriously again?

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      3. PrecipitousDrop October 17, 2016

        That’s an easy one, Misinformed.
        Folks retire to mostly southern blue states because the climate is warmer and because it’s no longer necessary for them to have great-paying jobs.
        California, NY and Hawaii are not in a ‘death spiral’. They’re just a lot more heavenly places to live, work, pay taxes (Ask your candidate about paying taxes.), and… vote.

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        1. InformedVoter October 17, 2016

          You are really dense aren’t you? The states they retire to are red states! And yes, CA, NY and HI are paying out more in social programs than they collect from their workers. What really amazes me is that when dummies like you retire to their dream state, they try to change their new state to match the miserable model their original state was. They are so dumb they don’t realize that if that happens, they will destroy their dream state. Talk about being low information. You certainly fit the picture.

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          1. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Not at all, Misinformed! Not at all.
            California does a great deal for the stumbling economy of your miserable red state — and they have one of the highest budget surpluses in decades. They’re even putting millions aside for the eventual slowing of the tech boom.
            I didn’t bother to look in on NY or Hawaii since you were so clearly mistaken about California.
            Why don’t you do that and get back to us?

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          2. InformedVoter October 18, 2016

            You are not correct. California has more folks on welfare than are paying into the system. The state is losing population as folks move out to get away from the high taxes and poor services (like jammed roads, running out of water, losing homes to fires).

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          3. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Nearly every state has “…more folks on welfare than are paying onto the system,” Misinformed. That’s because more than half of aid recipients are children, or the disabled.
            Your “news” sources are feeding you a bill of goods.

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          4. InformedVoter October 18, 2016

            You are, once again, using faulty logic. The children don’t enter into the formula. There are more FAMILIES getting welfare than paying into the system. That would exclude children for both sides. You low information trolls are so easy to destroy!

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          5. PrecipitousDrop October 18, 2016

            Inclusion of children in the total count of welfare recipients depends on the origin of the statistics. Some counts include children and some do not. I expect that the figures used to develop your premise DO include children. Please check them, and — as I know you can do — cut and paste if your numbers include a footnote regarding adjustments to the contrary.
            You still overlook the disabled, including people temporarily disabled due to accident or disease.
            You aren’t convincing anyone.

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          6. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            You must be referring to the 95 million Americans not working, which includes many categories. I speak of persons collecting aid vs. persons working. In no case, dependents are counted.

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          7. PrecipitousDrop October 19, 2016

            Please try harder to focus, Misinformed. We’re talking about people who benefit from aid programs.
            Children who participate in meal subsidies through schools are included in state and federal aid totals.
            Millions of the working poor also qualify for aid programs.
            Finally, millions of the disabled and elderly receive food subsidies.

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          8. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Once more you demonstrate you low information status. You just spew gibberish and hope you somehow scored a point. This is not essay writing 101, so reams of BS don’t garner points.

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          9. PrecipitousDrop October 21, 2016

            Don’t be sore, Misinformed.
            Just accept new information based on the facts and move on, a little wiser.

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          10. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            it’s obvious that you are the one that’s sore. I make a claim, provide proof, and you respond that you don’t “think” the information is correct, yet you provide zip to support your low information claim. Once more you, and your low information crowd, put their tails between their legs and just sneak off, having been destroyed once more.

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          11. PrecipitousDrop October 21, 2016

            Sure, Hon.

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          12. InformedVoter October 21, 2016

            Your favorite movie must be Forrest Gump! You fit his comment perfectly … “stupid is as stupid does”. I just love destroying low information posters like you and Aaron, and Eleanore.

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          13. PrecipitousDrop October 22, 2016

            Tsk.

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          14. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            Hi, I’m not sure where you get your “facts”, but they are incredibly wrong. From memory, California ranks 46th out of 50 states for dependency on federal money, and 36th for number of people on any kind of welfare.

            I hope that helps!

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          15. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            You’ve shown time and again that you’re a low information person. Must you flaunt your obvious lack on knowledge so that even you fellow posters shy away from you?

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          16. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            OK sorry you couldn’t back up your ridiculous claim! Doesn’t excuse the feeble insults, though.

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          17. InformedVoter October 19, 2016

            Speaking the truth must be hard for you to accept. You have to be a product of the “participation trophy” crowd .. never really earning a trophy and find the stark truth painful.
            You claim the polls (manipulated by HilLIARy) show a landslide loss, so try this link.
            http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/most-accurate-poll-trump-leads-hillary-by-1/

            As to the claims I made about the leaked HilLIARy emails, every reputable news agency has revealed the contents, but it’s the low information sites that you and your low information crowd frequent that buried the email content on page 161. Hence you never saw them. As I said, you are low information and prove it every chance you can.

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          18. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

            See previous post. Sorry you can’t back up your bizarre and stupid assertions!

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          19. I Am Helpy October 24, 2016

            This is at least the second time you’ve made that claim; still not true.

            Reply

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