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Twice As Many Americans View North Korea As A Critical Threat Than Can Find It On A Map


Reprinted with permission from AlterNet.

recent poll conducted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs found that 75 percent of Americans list North Korea as a “critical threat” facing the United States, up from 55 percent just two years ago. The same poll found that 40 percent of Americans support conducting preemptive air strikes on North Korean “nuclear facilities”—a move that would effectively start and all-out war on the peninsula.

Contrast this poll with another one from March showing that just 36 percent of Americans can locate North Korea on a map. This means that there are more people in the United States who want to launch a unilateral, unprovoked war against North Korea than even know where North Korea is. This massive gap—between our collective desire to bomb something versus not having a clue what that something is—is stark evidence of a colossal media failure in the United States, a media failure that, as a rule, decontextualizes the “crisis” in North Korea and strips it of all political nuance.

Routinely, the media frames the US as responding to North Korean bellicose as if they are the ones initiating conflict out of thin air. Take, for example. President Trump’s recent threats to reign “fire and fury” upon North Korea, which was largely presented as a response to a hostile and unstable Kim regime.

“Trump Warns North Korea: Stop Threats,” the Wall Street Journal front page read Wednesday. This gives people the distinct impression the United States was just minding its own business and some random lunatic decided to provoke an otherwise benevolent and innocent Trump administration. Missing from this narrative is that North Korea’s “threats” are almost always qualified as defensive in nature, which is to say they are always on the condition of a US first strike.

This is consistent with a broader historical context that’s never provided. Rarely does the media mention that the Korean War never ended and the destruction the US leveled against the peninsula—while largely forgotten stateside—is still very fresh in the minds of both South and North Korea.

Rarely is it mention in the media that during the US bombing of Korea from June 1950 to July 1953 the US military, according to their own figures, killed approximately 3 million Koreans—roughly 20 percent of the population—mostly in the North. This is compared to 2.3 million Japanese killed in the whole of World War II, and that included the use of two nuclear bombs.

Rarely is it mentioned the US dropped more bombs and napalm on Korea in the early ‘50s than it did during the entire Pacific campaign against the Japanese during World War II—635,000 tons of munitions and 32,557 tons of napalm.

Rarely is it mentioned that, according to Dean Rusk, the Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs, the United States bombed “everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another.” Rarely is it mentioned that after running low on urban targets US bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams, flooding farmland and wrecking crops. Rarely is it mentioned the CIA oversaw South Korean death squads that killed thousands on suspicion of being communists.

Now, this may not matter to the casual media consumer but it matters a great deal to the North Korean government and this historical context goes along way explaining the martial posture on display. If this seems like ancient history we can go back to just 1994 when House Republicans helped torpedo a nuclear deal then-President Clinton arrived at with the North Koreans in good faith. Or to 2002 when George Bush listed North Korea in its “Axis of Evil” hit list then proceed to invade and destroy one-third of that list. Or to 2011 when NATO bombed Libya into a failed state six years after Gaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions in earnest. The US has, for decades, given the North Koreans no reason not to pursue nuclear weapons and contextualizing the situation as such would, perhaps, reduce the amount of Americans eager to bomb Pyongyang without provocation or attack.

One doesn’t have to like or sympathize with a government to understand its motivation. Once one understands the history of the US’s war on Korea and internalizes the fact that the North Koreans don’t see the war as being over, their actions don’t seem irrational or unhinged—they seem like the last resort of a country that views itself, fairly or not, as under siege. If only the media could make an effort to reflect this context far more often, perhaps it would reduce the amount of people itching for war and—along with some useful visual aids—significantly increase the number of Americans who at least know where or what North Korea is.

Adam Johnson is a contributing analyst at FAIR and contributing writer for AlterNet. Follow him on Twitter @AdamJohnsonNYC.



  1. Phil Christensen August 11, 2017

    Baby steps. Once Liberals are able to identify the real enemy, teaching them geography shouldn’t prove too difficult.

    1. Independent1 August 11, 2017

      My guess is there dummkopf that it’s mostly the GOP supporting Americans in red states around the nation who make up the vast majority of those people itching for war with North Korea and who haven’t got a clue where NK is because they are the most uneducated people in the nation!!!

      It’s conservatives DUMMKOPF WHO ARE THE MOST UNEDUCATED!!!!


      1. Jim Samaras August 12, 2017

        Oh I see….one needs a college degree to be viewed by liberals with enough respect to know where NK is on a map. Why is it when asked many college educated don’t know who fought in the civil war? This is why you elitists are regarded as educated idiots.

        1. Independent1 August 12, 2017

          No! That was just an example of the fact that its GOP-run, conservative leaning states, that are on average by far the least educated states in the nation. Just look at how these uneducated states consistently vote against their best interests by voting in Republicans who are working tirelessly to keep them stupid and in poverty.

          Of the 24 states with more than 12% poverty, 21 of those states are GOP-run. And studies have shown that on average, it’s people living in poverty who are not only the less healthy, they’re the least educated. Because many have to drop out of school just to take jobs and feed themselves or their families.

          And Phil the idiot was trying to imply that it’s liberals who are the ones mostly who don’t know where NK may be on a map – when that is categorically wrong!!!

          And it’s not even just that, it’s the fact that being conservative is an indication that on average, people have lower intelligence – lower IQ. They don’t have the mental capacity to assimilate the thinking of new things that liberals rationalize; because of that conservatives resist change and want to stay living in the past – or move back to the past, because they simply can’t mentally deal with what it takes to move into the future and experience new thoughts, skills and situations in their lives. (Just look at what Trump have been doing to America over the past 6 months – moving us backwards in time 80 or more years with respect to social and environmental laws and regulations.)

          They’re even too clueless to realize that it’s the politicians they keep electing into office who are the people that are working tirelessly to keep them poor and make their lives miserable (all 10 states Gallup-Healthways says are the most miserable with the worst quality of life in America are run by the GOP.)

          Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

          There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

          The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies,the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and
          resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

          “Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood,” he said.


          1. Eleanore Whitaker August 12, 2017

            Once you consider “WHERE” the US’s TOP Ivy League universities are located, you see why these nuts in the south and midwest can’t make two and two equal four.

            3 out of 4 of their colleges are based on religion. So, to them, teaching bogus views of creationism is far more important than being trained for an IT job of the future.

        2. Eleanore Whitaker August 12, 2017

          You don’t have a college degree do you Hoboken boy? You didn’t even finish high school. Your posts prove that.

        3. Independent1 August 12, 2017

          And where did you get that last statistic? From someone who ran a poll on the streets of Atlanta??

          Remember, a lot of college grads were born and raised in red states where the education system deliberately does not educate their students about the Civil War because it was conservatives who lost it. And many of those ill educated people go to colleges all around the nation.

          1. Jim Samaras August 12, 2017

            What statistic? I know many highly educated people who have little to no common sense when it comes to current events or anything unrelated to their field yet feel they know better because of the sheepskin acquired at a “prestigious” school. Snobbery at it’s finest.

          2. Independent1 August 12, 2017

            The statistic you posted about many college educated people who don’t know who fought the Civil War. Where did you get that stat?? From an Atlanta street interview??

            And I can’t disagree with you on the common sense bit: you can’t teach people common sense. I’ve encountered the same thing. But common sense isn’t going to help you answer a pointed question like: Where is North Korea in the world? That is something you have to be taught via a class like Geography; which is the kind of class that many schools today, especially those in southern and some other GOP-run states which try to run education on a shoestring cut from the curriculum of their schools.

            It’s not by accident that GOP-run states have a reputation for shoddy educational systems; because it goes along with shoddy police and fire protection which GOP-run states also try to cut corners on. And some of that (shoddy police enforcement) comes out in the increased violence that takes place in GOP-run states (all 10 states with the highest rates of all forms of violence are GOP-run states); and it even comes out in the fact that almost every GOP-run state has an auto fatality rate per 100,000 population that is considerably above the national average auto fatality rate.

            In 2015, the national average auto fatality rate for the nation was about 11 auto fatalities/100,000 population. Isn’t it striking to you that 24 of the 30 or so GOP-run states had an auto fatality rate above 11 while only 3 of almost 20 Democrat run states did?? And what’s even more striking is that GOP-run states like Montana and Wyoming had rates that were more than twice the 11/100,000 national average: Wyoming’s rate was 27/100,000!! Something is clearly wrong with GOP governance – it’s clearly a failure in virtually every aspect you can name!! Be it education, or police protection or fire protection, or manufacturing safety, or protecting the environment or providing adequate healthcare for a state’s citizens and on and on.

          3. Jim Samaras August 13, 2017

            I saw no stat there when I mentioned “many” but be that as it may. I’ll admit you can pick out some stats that on the surface many on the left could blame the GOP governance. However in many instances the right believes more of the fault lies at the feet of local democratic politics especially in bigger cities.

          4. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            Easy on 2Dependent. He’s still all butt-hurt from the time when his edumicated self signed that petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide.

          5. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Gotta love it Phil! Very similar situation within the climate change freak out. More low information easily duped morons.

          6. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            As opposed to misinformation easily duped morons who deny the tremendous amount of evidence supporting man-made climate change?

          7. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            I see….you’re one of those. Okay

          8. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Actually you see nothing regarding me unless you mean I am one of those who examines as much evidence as is available, considers the sources of the evidence, compares it against what is available to my senses and then decides what to believe. I also remain open to changing my view when presented with contrary evidence, something I see very little of among climate change deniers. BTW critical thinking ability and honesty are in short supply in the USA and the “highly educated” have no monopoly there but neither do the uneducated. There is no shortage of imbeciles here.

            You can believe me that I would love nothing more than to think that we are not destroying our habitat with wanton consumerism and the enormous pollution that it creates but all the evidence points to that conclusion and is further validated by what I can personally witness. Climate change is just one of the many ways our habits are killing the biosphere.

          9. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            The alarmists have done a wonderful job selling the program of climate change I must admit. It really makes me wonder who is trying to profit from it most. Nothing can be proven by a certain date unlike the Y2K handjob we were sold in the 90’s so it can be prolonged in perpetuity. Here’s a link, not debunking it, but showing how numbers can be skewed.


          10. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Yes the deniers have done a good job as well but as heavily funded as they are by the Kochs and others who rely on coal and oil for their fortunes it’s maybe not surprising. You may wonder who would profit from a climate change hoax but it’s quite clear who profits by a climate change denial scam, the aforementioned Kochs leading the list.

            I believe it is very well proven that the earth is warming. There are some questions as to what are the causes but I’ve seen no other “theory” that matches the evidence as well as man-made causes. There are also questions as to how exactly it will play out but from my POV it doesn’t look good.

          11. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            The only evidence is 100 years of climate records when climate has gone up and down for perhaps billions of years. Y2K scare with no definitive end….

          12. dtgraham August 14, 2017

            The alarmists are virtually 100% of climate scientists. Except for a few who are fossil fuel industry pimps, and are paid well by them to obfuscate if not actually lie.

          13. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            We know you are one of those. Time for you to start admitting the truth. A. You are a trough feeder who lives in a run down walkup in some inner city. B. Your Mommy and siblings long ago dumped you on your ass because you’re a lazy bum who thinks you are entitled to have it all handed to you by the hard work of others.
            C. You can’t find a job because you are a guy who never learned to shut the hell up and take orders from an employer. That is why WE KNOW you sit on your ass all day looking for anyone you can find to contradict. You are a contradiction …the alien life form kind.

          14. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            My my Ellie. Private parts particularly itchy today hun? Ditch the cats, put on some lipstick and get out there and do what you were born to do honeeeey. Then make me a sammich

          15. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            My my my Trough Feeder. You do need credit for one unusual “talent,”: Playing with yourself while using a computer keyboard.

            I make shitsandwiches just for you. Eat hearty little man.

          16. Independent1 August 13, 2017

            “However in many instances the right believes more of the fault lies at
            the feet of local democratic politics especially in bigger cities.”

            Really? If that’s true, why is there such a difference in cities in red states and blue states?? Why are the majority of the poorest cities in the poorest counties in America which aree rated to be the most miserable to live in with the highest murder rates mostly in GOP-run states??

            All 10 of America’s poorest cities for 2015 are in RED STATES: Brownsville-Harlingen,Texas, Dalton, Ga., McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, Texas, Gadsden, Ala., Lake Havasu City-Kingman, Ariz., Albany, Ga., Monroe, La., Cumberland.W.Va., Fort Smith, Ark.-Okla, Pine Bluff, Ark;

            -9 of the 10 most miserable cities in America for 2015 are in RED STATES according to 24/7 Wall Street: Huntington/Ashland, WVA, Charleston, WVA, Redding, CA, Spartansburg, SC, Hickory–Lenoir-Morganton, NC, Beaumont/Port Arthur, TX. Columbus, GA/AL, Shreveport/Bossier City, LA, Mobile, AL, Evansville, In/KY.

            -While 9 of the 10 richest cities for 2015 are in Blue States: San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, Calif., Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, D.C.-Va.-Md., Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, Conn., San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, Calif., Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, Mass.-N.H. , Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, Calif., Anchorage, Alaska, Honolulu,
            Hawaii, Manchester-Nashua, N.H., Napa, Calif.

            Could it because many of these cities are in the most violent, corrupt states with the highest city murder rates??

            -24 of the 30 Cities with the highest murder rates in the nation for 2016 – per neighborhoodscout.com – are in GOP-governed states with lax gun-control laws; or are in states that have been recently governed by the GOP or are right next to a GOP-governed state with very lax gun laws making gun access easy even though there are stricter gun-control laws in cities like Chicago. Here’s the top 20 with #1 being East St. Louis, IL then Chester, PA; St. Louis, MO; Gary, IN; Detroit, MI; Camden,
            NJ: New Orleans, LA; Riviera, FL; Trenton, NJ; Wilmington, DE; Jackson, MS; Harrisburg, PA; Baltimore, MD; Newark, NJ; Petersburg, VA; Prime Bluff, AR; Rocky Mount, NC; Flint, MI; Bridgeton, NJ; Harvey, IL; and note that Chicago, Heights, IL is

            -8 of the 10 most corrupt states are RED STATES: Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Alaska, South Dakota, Kentucky and Florida.

            -9 of the 12 states with 6 or more public servants per 10,000 public employees convicted of corruption are RED STATES: led by Louisiana with 10.5, Kentucky – 8.5; S. Dakota – 7.5, Delaware – 7.2; Mississippi – 7.1; Alabama – 7.1; Pennsylvania – 7.1; N. Dakota – 6.9; New Jersey; 6.7; Montana – 6.5; Ohio – 6.3 and Tennessee – 6.0.

            -All 10 of the states with the most gun-related violence are GOP-run states
            Analysis by 24/7 Wall Street – 2013
            Homicides/Assaults/Violent Crime

          17. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Boy you have the stats don’t ya! While the GOP is slowly but surely taking over the governorship of the US the local political landscape of the states/cities you’ve mentioned are democratically controlled. While both sides are guilty of the corruption a deeper dive will show where it lies predominantly. Also, a similar dive will show the cities controlled in those red states are democratic and will show great improvement when its’ citizens finally realize the error of their ways over the last 60 years.

          18. Independent1 August 13, 2017

            And if cities run by Dems are so bad why is the poverty rate in Dem-run cities (around 12%) less than the poverty rate in rural states run by the GOP – averaging 14% overall in rural areas but also way over at 21% in MS??? What big city in MS is responsible for that 21% poverty rate??

          19. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Because in those cities the no information voters keep voting in absolute nincompoops akin to Maxine Waters’ district. Now we can ALL agree that she is a moron can’t we?

          20. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
            >> City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
            >> 1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
            >> 2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%
            >> 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
            >> 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
            >> 5. Miami, FL 26.9%
            >> 5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
            >> 7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
            >> 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
            >> 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
            >> 10. Newark, NJ 24.2%
            >> What do these top ten cities (over 250,000 pop.) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
            >> Detroit, MI – (1st on poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961
            >> Buffalo, NY – (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954
            >> Cincinnati, OH – (3rd) not since 1984
            >> Cleveland, OH – (4th) not since 1989
            >> Miami, FL – (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
            >> St. Louis, MO – (6th) not since 1949
            >> El Paso, TX – (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
            >> Milwaukee, WI – (8th) not since 1908
            >> Philadelphia, PA – (9th) not since 1952
            >> Newark, NJ – (10th) not since 1907
            >> Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.’
            >> It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats… yet they are still POOR.

          21. Independent1 August 14, 2017

            Sorry, everything you posted is nothing but a bunch of right-wing propaganda!!! Cities have to live under the rules ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE THEY ARE IN!!

            And if that state dictates that there’s right-to-work laws which drive people into poverty virtually everywhere in their state, they can do very little about that!!

            And city governments don’t set the laws which refuse to expand Medicaid which kill people off and drive more deeper into poverty. Or GOP legislators who greedy enact other social benefit laws reducing help for people in need which also drive people into poverty – like in virtually every red state!! IT’S NOT CITY GOVERNMENTS THAT DO THAT!!!!!

            And city governments generally always need additional funding to provide adequate police and fire protection, so in red states that cut those budgets to the bone, city governments suffer.

            And in virtually all the states listed as the poorest, with the most violence and crime, it’s been GOP governors or legislators that have forced bare bones budgets onto those cities AND THAT INCLUDES NEW JERSEY AND MICHIGAN WHERE CHRISTIE IN NJ AND SNYDER IN MICHIGAN HAVE SCREWED UP THEIR STATES CITIES JUST LIKE SNYDER SCREWED UP FLINT’S WATER!!

            YOU are a clueless dumb right-winger living in total denial of GOP failed governance ideologies!!! All you know how to do is come up with one failed excuse after another for failure after failure after failure of the GOP!!!

          22. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            It is you who truly are the clueless one sir! You’re about to discover over the next 20 years (if you’re lucky enough to be around) how the cities will improve under conservative control as your policies have been a complete disaster. Even the clueless are awakening what’s you’re excuse? I’ll call it the Maxine Waters syndrome.

          23. Independent1 August 14, 2017

            And your mental delusion or outright pathological lying goes on and on and on.

            How can GOP governance improve the plight of cities when GOP governance of the states the GOP runs is turning them into disaster areas??

            All ten STATES WHICH ARE RUN BY REPUBLICANS THAT Gallup-Healthways identified as the most miserable places to live with the worst quality of life are run by the GOP.

            All 25 STATES RUN BY THE GOP that WalletHub identified as having the most citizens broke and on the verge of bankruptcy are run by the GOP.

            29 of 31 states that WalletHub has identified that have residents who can barely get by from pay check to pay check with respect to buying personal needs products for themselves ARE RUN BY THE GOP!!

            And all 15 states that CBS news identified as being the hardest states in America to find a job ARE RUN BY THE GOP!!


            -All 15 States a CBS News study found in 2015 were the
            hardest to earn a living in are GOP-run states or considered GOP-governed by CBS News: ID, MS, AR, MT, UT, NM, SC, WV, AL, AZ, KY, FL, GA, NV, IN

            -All 10 Counties considered the ‘Toughest Places to Live’
            are in GOP-run states per CBS News in 2015 and 6 are in KY and the other 4 are in: MS, LA, GA, AR (And the senator from KY is the GOP’s Senate leader.)

            -For 2014 and 2015, Gallup-Healthways/24-7 Wall Street
            designated 10 GOP-governed states as the most miserable states in America to live in with the worst quality of life. John Kasich governs the #2 most miserable state, Ohio and ike Pence governs #3, Indiana – both ran for president in the 2016 GOP primaries. The most miserable being West Virginia and then: Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and last but not least – Oklahoma.

            -For 2015, a WalletHub survey found that the 25 states in
            America with the highest percentage of their residents broke and on the verge of bankruptcy were GOP-governed states.
            And likewise, that 30 of the 32 states with the lowest personal consumption/capita (with the most people struggling to live just day to day and barely being able to afford to shop at W) were GOP-governed states.

          24. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Perhaps it’s because 50% of the population is on the countrys’ dole in some way, shape or form. Deciding to “get by” rather than to strive for more then complain it’s not enough. All brought on by the liberal point of view. You’ll soon see

          25. Independent1 August 14, 2017

            Yes!! And more than 75% of the people on the ‘country’s dole’ live in GOP-RUN STATES!!

            Of the 456 counties in America which suck the most welfare in America, 421 of those counties voted for Mitt Romney in the 2012 election. It’s GOP-run states that suck more than 75% of the federal aid.

            All 10 states that rely the heaviest on federal aid in setting up their budgets ALL OF THEM ARE GOP-RUN STATES!! Most of the welfare in America goes to rural America NOT TO THE CITIES!!!

            Why do you suppose that of about 30 GOP-run states that only 3 of them gets less than $1 back in welfare for the tax dollars they send ot Washington?? And those 3 get back more than 96 cents on the dollar.

            While of the 20 or so Dem states, 14 of them get back less than 90 cents on the dollar, many of them around 60 cents on their tax dollar.


          26. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            I believe it’s the liberal policies that have permeated our society since the 60’s that contribute to many of the social issues we’re paying the price for now. Your president Clinton brought us NAFTA in the 90’s which did NOTHING for the American worker but much for the rest of the world. The pendulum is swinging back to the right and will take time to turn us around but we will once again be the greatest nation on earth with opportunity for all who wish to contribute.

          27. Independent1 August 14, 2017

            You can believe any dumb asinine thing you want.

            But those 14 Dem states that are essentially feeding all the tax dollars to Washington that are keeping America running prove without question that the GOP’s policies are a disaster given that only 3 of 30 GOP run states can operate without sucking the tax dollars from those 14 states.

            And the fact the vast majority of states that have spiraled into violence, poverty and short life spans are run by the GOP proves that the conservative ideologies are outright failures.

            And here’s just one example of the difference between the two ideologies:

            1) A Republican named Pawlenty governed the state of
            Minnesota for 8 years from 2003 through 2010; at the end of those 8 years, Minnesota was 6 Billion in debt and had only created 6,200 jobs in those 8 years under Pawlenty. In 2010 a Democratic billionaire named Mark Dayton was elected and took over. And despite the fact that he raised taxes on the upper 2% of Minnesotans; increased the min wage by over $1.50 to $9.75 and edicted that women doing the same job had to be paid the same as men, after his 1st 4 years, Minnesota had really changed:

            – The 6 billion in debt had been paid off and the state was projecting a 1.2 billion surplus.
            – Instead of 6,200 new jobs in 8 years under Pawlenty; 172,000 new jobs were created in 4 years.
            – Instead of being 27th in America in job creation; Minnesota is now in the top 5 in job creation.
            – Instead of having an unemployment rate of 7% it is now 5th lowest in the nation at 3.6%
            – Instead of it beingrated as anti-business; it is now one of the 10th best-business states in America

            And why is this last bit important – because businesses love states where people have money to spend and Minnesota’s average income is now $8,000 higher than the national average.

            2) In contrast to the above, as of 2015, this is what happened under Scott Walker in neighboring Wisconsin the previous 4+ years. Because of the downturn Wisconsin was also struggling a bit in 2010 when Walker took over; but under Walker, Wisconsin has gone from not so great to much worse:
            – Walker has virtually destroyed all the unions in Wisconsin and signed into law the right-to-pay-you-less legislation – with Wisconsin’s average incomes falling.
            – Walker has cut funding for education across the board and especially for the university system
            – The above has resulted not only in Wisconsin dropping from 24th in the nation in jobcreation to 47th in the nation today; but also to projecting a 2.2 Billion deficit over the next 2 years.
            – And as you might expect, Wisconsin has a very unfavorable rating now for new businesses.

          28. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            MS…No. 1 in Welfare, illegitimate children, food stamp recipients and the other 9 top states in this rank are ALL Republican states.

            The only other state in the top ten of federal trough feeders in Maine which is a purple state.

            Stop trying to bite the Dem state hands that feed you. You obviously love to dump your own trough feeding guilt on others.

            Let me guess. You grew up with a daddy who abandoned your mommy and left her to try to make it on a single Mom’s income? All while you stuck it to her by giving aid and comfort to men who refused to pay her equal to theirs?

          29. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Or is it because of the increasing monopoly of the 1% that reduces the amount available for the 99% making it harder and harder for those not born to privilege to survive much less thrive. All supported by the conservative point of view and to be honest by many “liberals” as well.

          30. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            Getting trough Feeder Jimmy Joe Johnny to admit anything is like Getting Trump to admit that truth can’t be owned.

          31. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            It’s been said before that if you’d take all the money and divide it equally among the masses within 20 years the haves would be at the top again. Some are just smarter than others while some don’t have the drive

          32. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Yes it’s been said including by one of my conservative friends but I don’t buy it. Sure some would have more than others and many people stupidly waste their money but many of those now at the top owe their position to family money and influence. Although some would have more after 20 years it wouldn’t be the same ones as now. In my experience the rich are often incompetent and certainly not the cream of the crop. Trump is the poster boy for born on third base thinking he hit a triple and DeVos is another good example of one whose ‘achievements” are owed entirely to family money.

          33. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Agreed….many owe their fortunes to the lucky sperm club and many of those waste it. I do not hold that luck against them however. While Trump no doubt had a leg up on most he turned a small loan into 10 billion dollars and that I would call no small achievement. I don’t know much about DeVos but have listened to her speak and find her articulate and willing to roll up her sleeves and get to work on our failing education system.

          34. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            I don’t hold their luck against them either but the idea “that if you’d take all the money and divide it equally among the masses within 20 years the haves would be at the top again” implies that those that have the majority of wealth now would regain it due to superior intelligence and work ethic. I see absolutely no evidence that is true. A level playing field would see a quite different group with the greatest wealth. I also don’t think the disparity would be as bad as it is now.

            Trump’s “small” loan was over a million. He was subsequently bailed out by dad who purchased millions in chips which he never redeemed at sonny’s casino that his incompetence was running into the ground. No one but Trump claims he is worth 10 billion. Financial observers estimate 400 mil to 4 bil. Granted that is still a lot of money but had he invested his gifts and inheritance from dad in mutual funds he would be at least as wealthy as he is now.

          35. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            Or could it be Clintons’ NAFTA agreement that took many of our manufacturing jobs overseas to help the “global economy” out leaving our own nation helpless to fight the greedy corporations who were more than willing to sell us out for cheaper labor? Raising taxes on corps to speed up the process? Lowering taxes will help the cause however workers will have to take a little less than they think they’re worth to get and keep a job that pays enough to support a family.

          36. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Do you mean the Clinton-Bush NAFTA agreement? If so then I agree with you on that? However I see no value in lowering corporate taxes unless it is tied to better compensation for workers instead of just higher CEO salaries.

            “workers will have to take a little less than they think they’re worth to get and keep a job that pays enough to support a family.” A little less than they think perhaps but much more than foreign workers are paid. Maybe it’s the CEOs and VPs that need to take less than they think they are worth.

          37. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            I’m no Bush fan either as he and his ilk are criminals just like the Clintons. No value in lowering corporate taxes? Really? Lowering the tax rate will make the economy explode in growth not seen for decades imo. No one can dictate salaries except CEO’s or board members certainly not the government. While I will agree some CEO’s make more than I would or could see value in but one could say the same about professional athletes and nobody complains about that. How about asking them to take less and give it to the janitors that sweep the floors? The market takes care of workers compensation and will be reflected as such as immigration is controlled. Now I will say that part of any repatriation policy could include a mandate to invest in hard hit urban areas creating jobs that have been taken away in the past.

          38. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            Your opinion that lowering corporate taxes will make the economy explode is based on faith, a faith I don’t share.

            It’s actually not true that no one complains about the salaries of pro athletes but it’s also worth noting that they have short careers, have worked very hard to achieve their level of skill and make enormous amounts of money for team owners and numerous other businesses. The issue that should be examined regarding pro-athletes is the largesse team owners are granted for stadiums and arenas.

          39. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            It worked for Reagan in the 80’s and helped the Clinton presidency in the 90’s reach heights not seen since. Of course his tax reforms along with NAFTA helped bring it down. It makes sense that a lower rate would bring business here creating jobs and a bigger revenue overall but we will see.

            Who’s to say how hard CEO’s worked and sacrificed to get to where they are? I’m not saying they’re not over paid because many are in comparison to their workers but I’m definitely not for government intervention.

          40. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            It’s a stretch to say Reaganomics “worked” except for the rich who did indeed get richer. Despite a brief boom in the middle by the end of the 80’s middle class workers were no better off than at the beginning and the poor were worse. Reducing regs and tax cutting were only part of Reagan’s policies. He was also a union buster which ultimately reduced the buying power of consumers which then led to a downturn in the economy.

            I agree that government should not intervene in CEO salaries, as long as the company is not receiving government subsidies (like big oil) and/or bailout funds (like the banksters).

          41. Independent1 August 14, 2017

            And the GOP has gained control of more state houses around the nation via lies, propaganda, jerrymandering, voter suppression, hacking of voting computers and every other way the GOP has learned TO STEAL ELECTIONS!

          42. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            Yes I too know some highly educated ignoramuses and some uneducated imbeciles as well. What’s your point?

          43. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            My point is the media views conservatives as uneducated buffoons and I’m saying even many educated people are as well. Is yours to start an argument or do you have something to say?

          44. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            Does it ever occur to your “conservatives” that when we hear you speak or see your posts the message IS uneducated?

            Does it ever occur to you that when we read your posts we know how to read between your misguided lines?

            You will never convince taxpaying Americans that Nazis have rights in our country. If they cannot abide by the US Constitution, they belong in jail. Period. End of Statement.

          45. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            We view you liberals in a similar light cat lady. It’s a disease of which the only cure is reality when you get a job where your performance actually matters and get off the public teat.

          46. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            BTW although I’ve never labeled myself a liberal (I prefer to consider each issue on it’s own merits without reference to ideology) you probably consider me a liberal. I’ve never had government assistance and was self-employed most of my career, as is true of many you term liberals.

          47. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            I wholeheartedly agree with your stance. I consider each issue on it’s own merits as well. I could be called an independent with a conservative slant fiscally. I thought Obama was THE answer to many social problems in this country and voted for him feverishly in 08 but by the time 09 rolled around realized he was a Soros puppet and regretted every good thing I thought of him. Unfortunately he wasted the opportunity to band the nation together like never before and unmasked himself as the racial divider in chief.

            You sound to be a gentleman or woman who while we may disagree on many social issues have much in common, first and foremost as American citizens wanting the best for our country then as self employed all our adult lives and having never been on public assistance.

          48. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            Yes I think if we could sit down over our beverage of choice and discuss the issues I think many of us on apparently opposite sides would find many areas of agreement.

            I too voted for Obama the first time but though I didn’t have the high hopes you did I have been disappointed. That said I’d take him again over Trump any day, but I would also have taken any of the other serious primary candidates except Cruz over him as well. (I don’t consider Fiorina or Carson serious candidates) I think if the Dems had run Sanders or Biden either would have won easily.

          49. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            So the avowed conservative who comes to a decidedly left-leaning site to post contrary views is accusing me of trying to start an argument? LOL

            I think the media views most people, liberal or conservative, educated or uneducated as dupes. none is worse in that regard than Fox. (Those like Breitbart are not even worthy of being regarded as news media)

          50. Jim Samaras August 14, 2017

            I was just asking…..Try One America News. It reports news on an hourly basis, no opinions just news. 347 on DirecTV

          51. The lucky one August 14, 2017

            I took a look and it is hardly a news site unaffected by subjective bias. It could as easily be called the Trump Channel.

            “since its inception in 2013, and especially since Trump began his march to the White House, One America’s owner, Robert Herring Sr., a millionaire who made his money printing circuit boards, has directed his channel to push Trump’s candidacy, scuttle stories about police shootings, encourage antiabortion stories, minimize coverage of Russian aggression, and steer away from the new president’s troubles, according to more than a dozen current and former producers, writers and anchors, as well as internal emails from Herring and his top news executives.”


            A quick look at the comments to articles shows that it is dominated by those with far right viewpoints. OAN also recently tried to recruit sexual predator and disgraced blowhard Bill O’Reilly.

          52. dtgraham August 14, 2017

            I didn’t know this. I’ve taken away my upvote on Jim’s post (as though it ever meant something). I just took Jim Samaras at his word on One America News. Should have known better.

          53. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            Apparently Jim thinks that because they don’t have “opinion” pieces labeled as such that they are being objective. A quick look at the comments shows that far right wackos, particularly those that worship tRump consider it their news site.

          54. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            Unbiased opinion from WaPo huh? While it may not be perfect it’s far better at balance than Fox, Cnn or God forbid MSNBC

          55. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            You know as well as I do that there is no such thing as “Unbiased opinion”. I agree that msnbc, cnn and especially fox set a low bar but I don’t see that oan does any better overall.OAN is certainly very much pro-Trump, nothing unbiased there.

          56. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            LOL….While it may slant “pro Trump” I find it hard to believe any American would be pro Hillary or anybody else in the democratic party today with no stance on anything except obstructionism, finding all white males as bigoted, xenophobic homophobes that want Jim Crow laws in place to take us back to a time 70 years ago when blacks were considered inferior. Nothing could be further from the truth and I am offended that that’s the way we’re viewed by the MSM. Trump has never said anything to lead anyone to believe he’s a racist except in the minds of the far left. There are more folks than you think, depending on where they live that are “secretly” Trump supporters due to the reprisal received from many in their circle of friends who would belittle them for it. As far as OAN is concerned I find the stories to be unlike any we would see on the msm. If it don’t fit the narrative it doesn’t get aired on any of them.

          57. The lucky one August 15, 2017

            I am certainly not pro-Hillary but I did find it laughable that someone as dishonest as Trump, a man known for stiffing contractors and suppliers who bragged about bribing politicians, would label someone else “crooked”.

            I also am not a democrat but I don’t find that they label “all white males as bigoted, xenophobic homophobes”. If more Repubs and cons called out members of their own constituency and party when they do display racist or otherwise bigoted behavior maybe Dems wouldn’t be so touchy.

            “Trump has never said anything to lead anyone to believe he’s a racist” actually I think there are many examples. Do you not remember the Central Park 5? trump wanted to lead the lynching of the teens who were later found to be wrongly accused.

            “There are more folks than you think, depending on where they live that are “secretly” Trump supporters due to the reprisal received from many in their circle of friends who would belittle them for it.”

            Possibly but I think not. People who favor Trump, not just as the lesser of two evils, tend to not be bashful about it from my observations. To the degree that they are reticent to declare for Trump it is because he is indefensible both personally and professionally, IMO the the most personally reprehensible public figure in my lifetime.

            “If it don’t fit the narrative it doesn’t get aired on any of them.” Yes and OAN is clearly not an exception.

          58. Jim Samaras August 15, 2017

            Please don’t be so quick to judge a man on slanted things you read from the MSM. Below is an interesting take on him from what I would consider an unexpected source.

            Liz Crokin is an award-winning author, a seasoned journalist and an advocate for sex crime victims. Liz began her journey at the University of Iowa where she received a bachelor’s in journalism and political science.
            Trump Does The Unthinkable
            by Liz Crokin

            Donald Trump is a racist, bigot, sexist, xenophobe, anti-Semitic and Islamophobe — did I miss anything? He is also deplorable. The left and the media launch these hideous kinds of attacks at Trump everyday; yet, nothing could be further from the truth about the real estate mogul.

            As an entertainment journalist, I’ve had the opportunity to cover Trump for over a decade, and in all my years covering him I’ve never heard anything negative about the man until he announced he was running for president. Keep in mind, I got paid a lot of money to dig up dirt on celebrities like Trump for a living so a scandalous story on the famous billionaire could’ve potentially sold a lot of magazines and would’ve been a Huge feather in my cap.

            Instead, I found that he doesn’t drink alcohol or do drugs, he’s a hardworking businessman.

            On top of that, he’s one of the most generous celebrities in the world with a heart filled with more gold than his $100 million New York penthouse.

            Since the media has failed so miserably at reporting the truth about Trump, I decided to put together some of the acts of kindness he’s committed over three decades which has gone virtually unnoticed or fallen on deaf ears.

            • In 1986, Trump prevented the foreclosure of Annabell Hill’s family farm after her husband committed suicide. Trump personally phoned down to the auction to stop the sale of her home and offered the widow money. Trump decided to take action after he saw Hill’s pleas for help in news reports.

            • In 1988, a commercial airline refused to fly Andrew Ten, a sick Orthodox Jewish child with a rare illness, across the country to get medical care because he had to travel with an elaborate life-support system. His grief stricken parents contacted Trump for help and he didn’t hesitate to send his own plane to take the child from Los Angeles to New York so he could get his treatment.

            • In 1991, 200 Marines who served in Operation Desert Storm spent time at Camp Jejune in North Carolina before they were scheduled to return home to their families. However, the Marines were told that a mistake had been made and an aircraft would not be able to take them home on their scheduled departure date. When Trump got wind of this, he sent his plane to make two trips from North Carolina to Miami to safely return the Gulf War Marines to their loved ones.

            • In 1995, a motorist stopped to help Trump after the limo he was traveling in got a flat tire. Trump asked the Good Samaritan how he could repay him for his help. All the man asked for was a bouquet of flowers for his wife. A few weeks later Trump sent the flowers with a note that read: We’ve paid off your mortgage.

            • In 1996, Trump filed a lawsuit against the city of Palm Beach, Florida, accusing the town of discriminating against his Mar-a-Lago resort club because it allowed Jews and blacks. Abraham Foxman, who was the Anti-Defamation League Director at the time, said Trump put the light on Palm Beach not on the beauty and the glitter, but on its seamier side of discrimination. Foxman also noted that Trump’s charge had a trickle-down effect because other clubs followed his lead and began admitting Jews and blacks.

            • In 2000, Maury Povich featured a little girl named Megan who struggled with Brittle Bone Disease on his show and Trump happened to be watching. Trump said the little girl’s story and positive attitude touched his heart. So he contacted Maury and gifted the little girl and her family with a very generous check.

            • In 2008, after Jennifer Hudson’s family members were tragically murdered in Chicago, Trump put the Oscar-winning actress and her family up at his Windy City hotel for free. In addition to that, Trump’s security took extra measures to ensure Hudson and her family members were safe during such a difficult time.

            • In 2013, New York bus driver Darnell Barton spotted a woman close to the edge of a bridge staring at traffic below as he drove by. He stopped the bus, got out and put his arm around the woman and saved her life by convincing her to not jump. When Trump heard about this story, he sent the hero bus driver a check simply because he believed his good deed deserved to be rewarded.

            • In 2014, Trump gave $25,000 to Sgt. Andrew Tamoressi after he spent seven months in a Mexican jail for accidentally crossing the US-Mexico border. President Barack Obama couldn’t even be bothered to make one phone call to assist with the United States Marine’s release; however, Trump opened his pocketbook to help this serviceman get back on his feet.

            • In 2016, Melissa Consin Young attended a Trump rally and tearfully thanked Trump for changing her life. She said she proudly stood on stage with Trump as Miss Wisconsin USA in 2005. However, years later she found herself struggling with an incurable illness and during her darkest days she explained that she received a handwritten letter from Trump telling her she’s the bravest woman, I know. She said the opportunities that she got from Trump and his organizations ultimately provided her Mexican-American son with a full-ride to college.

            • Lynne Patton, a black female executive for the Trump Organization, released a statement in 2016 defending her boss against accusations that he’s a racist and a bigot. She tearfully revealed how she’s struggled with substance abuse and addiction for years. Instead of kicking her to the curb, she said the Trump Organization and his entire family loyally stood by her through immensely difficult times.

            Donald Trump’s kindness knows no bounds and his generosity has and continues to touch the lives of people from every sex, race and religion. When Trump sees someone in need, he wants to help. Two decades ago, Oprah asked Trump in a TV interview if he’d run for president. He said: If it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally, because I really am tired of seeing what’s happening with this country.

            That day has come.

            Trump sees that America is in need and he wants to help. How unthinkable!

            On the other hand. have you ever heard of Hillary or Obama ever doing such things with their own resources?

            Now that’s really unthinkable! Might be worth passing on!!!

          59. The lucky one August 16, 2017

            “all my years covering him I’ve never heard anything negative about the man until he announced he was running for president”

            That alone shows that Ms. Crokin is either a liar paid by Trump to spread this BS or incredibly stupid and ill-informed. There were many stories high lighting his bilking of contractors and suppliers, philandering, sexual predation and yes his racism (remember the Central Park 5) prior to his candidacy. Did more stuff surface during the election? Of course, that’s what happens when you take center stage and the spotlights come on.

            Given his record for honesty I would not accept any of Ms. Crokin’s statements as being true. I don’t need to read MSM reporting on Trump to see what a POS he is. I can listen to the words from his mouth and view his actions for instance with his cabinet appointments and revolving door of staff.

            This unverified list of vague anecdotal accounts does not impress. It is well documented that he is one of the least generous billionaires in the US (If he in fact is a billionaire). I really think you need to do some research Jim.

          60. Jim Samaras August 16, 2017

            Man oh man….I think the man could come up with a cure for Cancer you many of you would poo poo it. Of course in your opinion he didn’t do enough to denounce white supremacy in yesterdays speech too, right? Saying that BOTH sides had culpability in the outcome was in some way legitimizing them? Listening to Morning Joe this morning made me want to puke….

          61. The lucky one August 16, 2017

            LOL, no chance of that happening. there is one thing I credit him for and that is ending the Bush & Clinton dynasties, no small achievement. If only he didn’t appear to be worse than any of them. His “Drain the Swamp” rhetoric is a cruel joke given the gang of opportunists and scoundrels he has appointed thus far (with very few exceptions).

            No he has never done anything significant to denounce white supremacy since they constitute a significant portion of his base. Were both sides culpable for the violence in Charlottesville? Probably to some degree but I note it was the anti-racist element that suffered the death and majority of injuries.

            If I go to a protest and some skinhead coward attacks me (most likely from behind and with a weapon) or I see a gang of KKK, Neo-nazi or other alt-right hate group ganging up on a person of color am I culpable when I defend myself or the person being attacked?

            I don’t listen to pundits like Morning Joe so I don’t know what you found nauseating.

          62. Jim Samaras August 16, 2017

            I try to listen to both sides before forming an opinion and used to find his program enlightening at times. Since the inauguration, no more. Just another hater.

            The “white supremacists” had a legal permit to be there. Now I’m certain the ones in Jackboots and hoods weren’t there for the application but showed up (paid or not) later. The antifa were not given a permit and the ones showing up in riot gear should have been turned away at the jump. Not only that but why did the local police allow the two groups to walk by each other in close proximity? They knew the result would be disastrous. Paid thugs on both sides imo! Which begs the question as to what your opinion is on the attempt to erase our history by removing these statues in the first place? Where does it end? Slavery was the norm back then and the attempt to erase it from memory is egregious imo.

          63. The lucky one August 16, 2017

            “why did the local police allow the two groups to walk by each other in close proximity?” Yes that’s the $64000 question, eh. It may be linked to the fact that the Charlottesville PD does not seem interested in using photos taken at the scene in locating WS perps such as those shown cowardly ganging up on a black man using poles to beat him. At least one has already been identified via social media but as far as I know no arrest made.

            Although I don’t myself feel the need to remove all the statues my guess is that those protesting know next to nothing about the history involved. I don’t see a statue being removed as erasing history and I do believe that confederate flags should not be posted on government property.

            You won’t see any statues of Hitler in Germany or Mussolini in Italy. Do you think they’re erasing their history?

          64. Jim Samaras August 16, 2017

            No you don’t but then again it has never been customary to gas Jews or minorities in those countries and those individuals were never known for anything positive to erect a statue for.

      2. Bullseye August 12, 2017

        Actually it’s Mississippi that has the lowest percent of college grads. Texas is in the middle of the pack. Based on the skill levels of graduates over the last couple of decades, it’s probably a good thing that we have fewer college grads.

      3. Dominick Vila August 12, 2017

        Announce that the draft may have to be reinstated if China decides to support NK, if we launch a pre-emptive strike, and support for the nuclear annihilation of North Korea will disappear as fast as rats leaving

        a sinking ship.

      4. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

        Your guess is wrong, but then you should be used to that.

        1. Independent1 August 13, 2017

          Just more of your ignorant psychobabble: Fact is lowlife, not one true red state is in the list of most educated states for 2017; while 9 of the 10 least educated are pure red states (per WalletHub);

          10 least educated::


          10 Best educated:



          1. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            You’re trying too hard. But go ahead and keep screaming “I’m not dumb like everyone says, I’m SMAT!!” Thanks for the laugh, Fredo. 🙂

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            How much does Trump pay you to post Troll boy? Can’t make a living any other way? Guess he found you in one of his “lower brow” Slovenian brothels right?

          3. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            We don’t need to try moron. You already proved what your right wing agenda is…KILL KILL KILL KILL FORCE FORCE FORCE FORCE. Happy now that one of your own is going down for murder?

            By the way, you righties pretty much did yourselves in when that Ohio 20 year old decided plowing his Dodge Charger into a crowd of counter protestors was YOUR way of stopping them from defending their country against shitbags of the KKK and White Supremacy.

            Bring it north and see if you get away with marching through OUR streets after dark with lighted torches to try and intimidate.

            You are chicken livered BS pros and nothing more. How stupid is it to think we’d allow Neo Nazis to freely rampage through our streets and no one would defend their country?

          4. Phil Christensen August 14, 2017

            It’s a safe bet that there was no “we.” You love to brag about what you would do, but it’s doubtful that you would do anything yourself. You see dear, we actually have a tradition of fighting the Reich-tards in my family. My father crossed the Rhine over a pontoon bridge riding a captured BMW motorcycle as part of the armies that took it to them. My own efforts (during the Obama Administration no less)are a matter of public record. That being said, you are a troubled soul and I sincerely wish that one day you find some peace.

    2. dtgraham August 12, 2017

      Phil, I am personally offended at the idea that either liberal or conservative Americans aren’t good at geography and don’t know anything about other countries. What kind of patriot are you?


      1. Jim Samaras August 12, 2017

        LOL…there are idiots of all levels on both sides. Beautiful video dt

        1. dtgraham August 12, 2017

          There sure are. And anywhere in the world.

      2. Eleanore Whitaker August 12, 2017

        It isn’t true. Don’t fall prey to more Russian bot news blurbs. Anyone in the Northeast from the 3rd grade can tell you where North Korea is.

        The only ones who never know geography are the idiots in the south and midwest. They only know the Holy Land, the Babylonian prophecy and thumping bibles to atone for years of boozing, drugging and living off welfare when they can.

        1. dtgraham August 12, 2017

          As funny as these things can be, they’re also not fair. Nobody who does this ever shows the people who have all the right answers. They just show the ones who don’t. You can do this anywhere in the world and, if you street interview enough people, you’ll find the ones who aren’t exactly up on things.

          That being said, Mike Huckabee and Tom Vilsack were a little disconcerting.

          1. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            This much is true. But to this day, you can get college students at elite universities sign a petition to ban water. This after the hoax has been out there for decades. One hopes that Huckabee and Vilsack were in on the joke, but it doesn’t look like it.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 13, 2017

            You are full of “it.” I taught for 12 years part time at Rutgers. College students much to your right wing bastion of haters, are the first to protect the environment and the first to try to right what morons of the right wing know is wrong but lavish themselves with special privileges to be above the law.

            As Josef Goebbels once said, “We are more powerful than the Truth.” NO you and your wingers are NOT.

          3. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            It must be exhausting being you.

      3. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

        One who would like to see a less intrusive government. Tomato Head says that make me a traitor.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 13, 2017

          Get off it. We know why you want no government intrusion. So you an your right wingers can show ass in the streets like they did yesterday in VA.

          Saturday night those “anti government asshats” were parading through VA streets with lighted torches. That YOUR idea of no govenment intrusiuon?

          Hey stupid. Get over it. I am the government and so is anyone else who values law and order. Obviously, you don’t.

          Every world society with NO government intrusion falls prey to becoming extinct.

          You are a traitor. I am so fed up with this breed of fat guy white males in this country acting as if they are the ONLY law in town.

          Do us all of favor. Shut your stupid mouths and do what JFK once said, “Ask NOT what YOUR Country can do for YOU. Ask what YOU can DO for your country.”

          1. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            Traitor to what exactly? You’re going to put me in front of a firing squad? I can’t imagine your sainted JFK would approve.

        2. dtgraham August 13, 2017

          Tomato brain is a freak, and is the one Democrat(?) here who’s a waste of life reading or responding to.

          Do yourself a favour and block him, like dpaano and I have done.

          For the record, wanting a smaller government doesn’t make you a traitor. I strongly disagree with you on the level of government involvement that’s needed to produce an overall richer, more humane, and more successful society, but it still doesn’t make you a traitor.

          That’s a debate that can be reasonably had.

          1. Phil Christensen August 14, 2017

            That was disarming, DT. Thank you.

          2. dtgraham August 14, 2017

            To think of all the arguments we make trying to disarm you conservatives, and this was all it took. Huh. How do you like that. We just needed to pry the guns from your cold dead ingratiation.

          3. Phil Christensen August 14, 2017

            honey vs. vinegar, and all…

    3. Eleanore Whitaker August 12, 2017

      Once we beat conservative asses in a Civil War for the 2nd time around, we will leave the CONs as flat busted as they were after the 1st Civil War.

      When it comes to assinine undereducated, all you need to do is find a state that still flies the Stars and Bars and ask them where North Korea is. They still think it’s part of DogPatch.

      1. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

        “We?” So you’re planning to take your place in the ranks?

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 13, 2017

          Yes. I fight for my country. Don’t you? I defend my country, Don’t you? I am willing to take on any of those white supremacists showing ass all over the south and midwest if they dare pull their BS in my state. And surprise, surprise, I’m not the only one ready to take them on. Cowards sit back in silence.

          1. Phil Christensen August 13, 2017

            LOL. If it ever hits the fan, I’m sure we’ll find you beneath your crib in the fetal position with your thumb in your mouth – in other words, where you are now and have been your entire life.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

            It has hit the fan. One young counter protestor is dead. Bring your hicks up north. I guarantee those Stars and Bars flag will be hanging out of your hick boy asses.

            Funny thing about you hicks. You know not to EVER bring your KKK BS above the Mason Dixon line. You know the minute you do, there are enough biker gangs with American flags ready to mash your Stars and Bars BS to a pulp and you with it.

            Bring it big mouth or stop posting your drivel.

          3. Phil Christensen August 14, 2017

            I’m actually from NYC, but that’s OK. The entertainment you’ve provided was well worth the mouse-click to NM through the weekend.

    4. The lucky one August 14, 2017

      We know the real enemy. It is Trump and the imbeciles who believe in him.

    5. Eleanore Whitaker August 14, 2017

      Right that’s why now one of your rebel hicks from OH is up for murdering an innocent woman and 19 others in Charlottesville.

      We think you’ve pretty much proved what a bunch of mental defectives you contrary morons are.

      So what excuse will your hick courts use this time to get this OH murderer off? Will it go the way it did when “yall alls” white boys allowed Byron de la Beckwith to get away with murdering Medger Evers? All white juries? All white male asses that are to chicken livered to bring your BS north because you know we’d make sure you go home in pieces.

      1. Johnny five August 14, 2017

        Kind of like O J Simpson uh?? Lady you a pig. A racist ???? pig!!

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 15, 2017

          No fukkface…Like Timothy White Supremacist McVeigh. Top that one.

          On Monday this week, over a thousand people protested at Trump Tower when he was expected to return to his golden penthouse. So he came back home to angry Americans of eveyr color of the rainbow.

          Did your Daddy breed you from his sister? You righties are on a collision course and you are too stupid to know it.

          When you resort to murdering an innocent woman and injure 19 others, it is our turn to round your asses up and lock you in those hick prisons your states get so much trough feeder federal dollars for.

          1. Johnny five August 15, 2017

            If I recall watching Saturday both parties came for serious trouble. Both had weapons and signs. Both sides need some serious jail time. Your farther would be ashamed of you

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 15, 2017

            Nice try Johnny Joe Jim Bob. You don’t get to normalize a bunch of hicks rampaging through the streets on Saturday night with lighted torches..There were NO counter protestors…Try again.

            Tell you what. Should we jail the protestors who protested Trumpcare? The million women who protested in April?

            Grow up little dick. Americans have every right to FIGHT like hell for their country. When the frig has Nazism EVER been a right in this country? When the hell have men like you sucked up to a murderer like Hitler, Mussolini, Putin and Stalin and thought we would allow you shitballs to get away with it?

            I’d love nothing better than for the KKK and White Supremacists to come to my state and show ass.

            Sorry…the KKK is a hate group. That makes you part of them. So that means YOU belong in jail. If you can’t defend your country’s Constitutional rights and Civil Rights, how about we deport you to Russia?

      2. Phil Christensen August 14, 2017

        Ohio is North of the Mason Dixon Line. There, you learned something today.

  2. Eleanore Whitaker August 12, 2017

    It’s awfully funny how twice as many Americans are supposed to be deficient in geography when in the northeast you can’t graduate high school unless you take mandatory courses in US History I and II, both of which include geographical studies on international trade agreements, wars and businesses.

    Then, the hicks say “we” are the ones who are under educated? Really? When within 200 miles in the Northeast we have Harvard, Yale, MIT, Princeton, Dartmouth, Rutgers and Columbia Universities?

    It is time for the hicks to shut their mouths, stop feeding off our tax dollars and get themselves educations that make them self sufficient and able to hold down jobs of the future.

    Take a trip to the south. Everything in the south is about people who have died or some other ancient southern tradition. Same in the midwest and southwest. Their geography consists of Robert E. Lee or Joseph Smith.

    They can read a laundry list of Sam Austin’s accomplishments but can’t tell you where Qatar is located.

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  3. Richard Prescott August 12, 2017

    I saw the video I think Fallon had it done. Just once more some segments of this country are plain stupid. And I am not targeting the poor south or country folks, but it appears to be in LA.
    Of course there, if it doesn’t involve movies or music I guess it doesn’t count.

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  4. Maryannrsloan August 16, 2017

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