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Weekend Reader: ‘Border Patrol Nation: Dispatches From The Front Lines Of Homeland Security’

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Weekend Reader: ‘Border Patrol Nation: Dispatches From The Front Lines Of Homeland Security’


Today the Weekend Reader brings you Border Patrol Nation: Dispatches from the Front Lines of Homeland Security by Todd Miller. Miller has been researching immigration and border issues for the past 15 years and denounces the militarization of the U.S.-Mexico border. In Border Patrol Nation, Miller sheds light on the reality of border wars with interviews and on-the-ground research from both sides of the divide. 

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In that vast, brightly lit cathedral of science fiction in Phoenix, it isn’t the guns, drones, robots, or fixed surveillance towers and militarized mannequins that startle me most. It is the staggering energy and enthusiasm, so thick in the convention’s air that it envelops you.

This day, I have no doubt that I’m in the presence of a burgeoning new multibillion-dollar industry that has every intention of making not just the border but this entire world of ours its own. I can feel that sense of excitement and possibility from the moment Drew Dodds begins explaining to me just how his company’s Freedom On-the-Move system actually works. He grabs two water bottles close at hand and begins painting a vivid picture of one as a “hill” obstructing “the line of sight to the target,” and the other as that “target”—in fact, an exhausted person migrating “the last mile” after three days in the desert, who might give anything for just such a bottle.

I have met many people in Dodds’s “last mile”—hurt, dehydrated, exhausted in the Arizona “killing field,” a term coined by journalist Margaret Regan in her book The Death of Josseline: Immigration Stories from the Arizona Borderlands. One man’s feet had swelled up so much, thanks to the unrelenting heat and the cactus spines he had stepped on, that he could no longer jam them in his shoes. He had, he told me, continued on anyway in excruciating pain, mile after mile, barefoot on the oven-hot desert floor. Considering that the remains of more than 6,000 people have been recovered from the borderlands since the process of militarization began in the mid-1990s, he was lucky to have made it through alive. And this was the man Dodds was so pumped about nabbing with Freedom On-the-Move’s “spot and stalk” technology; this was his football game.

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In the end, though, he abandoned football for reality, summing up his experience this way: “We are bringing the battlefield to the border.” Dodds is echoing the words of Dennis L. Hoffman—an economics professor from Arizona State University who studies future markets for the defense industry—who told the New York Times, “There are only so many missile systems and Apache attack helicopters you can sell. This push toward border security fits very well with the need to create an ongoing stream of revenue.”

However, Dan Millis of the Sierra Club’s Borderlands Campaign sees this in an entirely different light. As he told me: “It’s as if the United States is pulling out of Afghanistan and invading Arizona.”

Underscoring Millis’s point is the Border Patrol’s use of the Vehicle and Dismount Exploitation Radar (VADER) system (manufactured by the company Northrup Grumman) on one of its Predator B drones. The U.S. military has used this “man-hunting” radar system in Afghanistan to locate potential roadside bombers. From October 1, 2012, to January 17, 2013, CBP did its preliminary border-testing phase of the VADER. The surveillance system was incorporated into a drone that made overflights of the Arizona Sonoran desert. As with enemy combatants in Afghanistan, it looked to detect border-crossers in the desert. According to Border Patrol’s “internal reports,” with VADER’s help the agency arrested 1,874 people. The expensive, loud, and buzzing drones over the Sonoran desert in the United States have begun to resemble more and more the ones over the Dashti Margo desert region in Afghanistan, and from the halls of U.S. Congress they are asking for more.



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  2. meyati March 23, 2014

    I was talking to Moroccan on the Internet-he’s still there. He began making comments about lazy illegal Mexicans being the cause of crime in this state. I told him that if I had a choice, I’d hire a Mexican over a non-Latino, because of the work ethic.

    1. ken pifer March 23, 2014

      I lived and traveled in Mexico some years ago. I found most people I met were very friendly and willing to share anything they had. I have no problem with any entering our country legally. I do have a problem with rewarding people for breaking our laws, something our Emperor seems to have no problem doing himself.

      1. Dominick Vila March 23, 2014

        I guess you are referring to Emperor Reagan, the one that granted amnesty to 5 million illegal immigrants in 1986, rather than Obama who has an all time record of deportations. Right?

        1. paulyz March 23, 2014

          Dominick, the Amnesty under Reagan when there were only 2.7 Million Illegals in the U.S. was supposed to be a “one-time” Amnesty, with “promised border security & mandatory E-verify. All we got was the Amnesty, never the Enforcement, why there is the disaster we have now. Why nobody will believe any more promises until the Border is fully secured FIRST, mandatory E-verify passed & enforced, & stopping all visa overstays, B/4 “another” comprehensive Amnesty.

          1. Dominick Vila March 23, 2014

            Estimates concerning the number of illegal immigrants who were granted amnesty by President Reagan in 1986 range from 3 to 5 million. The problem is not walls or tunnels, the problem is that there is demand for cheap labor and our current immigration law does not have a provision to accommodate that demand. Go after those who hire illegal immigrants and the problem will go away immediately.
            Let’s not forget that in addition to granting amnesty to illegal immigrants, President Obama also granted asylum and a fast track to citizenship to Cubans the moment they set foot on U.S. soil. Most of them live in the Miami area.

          2. Barbara Morgan March 23, 2014

            Dominick, don’t you mean President Reagan when talking about the Cubans. I think President Obama was to young to have done the Cuban special treatment which was wrong.

          3. Dominick Vila March 24, 2014

            Oops. Yes, I should have said President Reagan. That policy has been in place since the 1980s and, obviously, it had nothing to do with President Obama.

          4. paulyz March 26, 2014

            Why we need mandatory E-verify passed & enforced FIRST along with a fully secured border, or this problem will just continue. Only AFTER this is well in place can we discuss other immigration issues. We need to do this right & for the last time.

          5. Barbara Morgan March 23, 2014

            When Reagan gave his two amnesty in the 1980s there was according to reports not made by the government or special interest groups of over 10 million illegals being in the Country. There was one large amnesty then I don’t remember how many years later he offered another amnesty also.

          6. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            Absolutely! That is exactly what happened and I totally agree…..

        2. joe schmo March 23, 2014

          No Imperialist Obama…..who continues to let them in illegally. I live in a state where there are simply toooo many. They use the system, take the jobs that Americans want to do. The Universities cater to their every whim. They love all the freebies…

          My family is a family of immigrants, who came here LEGALLY. They also learned the language and had to have at least $1000.00 in their bank accounts. That was in the late 50’s. They worked hard all their life. Do you really think I believe in ILLEGAL immigration when others had to sweat bullets to get in here. No way….

          I don’t have a problem with them knowing 2 languages. I speak two languages, but English is my first….and don’t put the sole blame on Reagan. Something could have been done about it a long time ago….

          1. Dominick Vila March 23, 2014

            Illegal immigration peaked in the Reagan era, and it may have contributed to his decision to grant amnesty to 5 million illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration is at an all time low, very likely because of the great recession we are finally overcoming and the job losses that came with it.
            It is precisely because President Obama does not believe in illegal immigration that he is proposing changes to our immigration law in an effort to find a solution to this problem.
            I don’t support illegal immigration, in fact, I don’t support anything that is illegal. My Dad was born in Spain, he entered the USA via Ellis Island in 1920, along with thousands of other immigrants. He learned English, paid taxes, and became a citizen after passing a naturalization test that many American born citizens would fail if they had to take it.

          2. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            Well, unfortunately, I don’t think things have turned around all that much, however; I do agree with you with regards to your Dad. My family members were exactly the same in coming to the States and you are right, many Americans nowadays would fail that test. LOL

          3. 788eddie March 23, 2014

            I just came back from being down Texas and New Mexico way. Your comments seem to bear little connection with reality. Are you just dumping on President Obama (under whose administration way more illegals have been deported than under the previous administration)?

            Please let us have a rational discussion on this issue.

          4. Barbara Morgan March 23, 2014

            joe schomo, and several like him hate the President and can not have rational discussion when it comes to him. Even through it is well know fact that President Obama has deported more illegals than most if not all the Presidents before him they still slam him. I don’t agree with the President Obama’s immigration reform but I do think he has done more to combat illegal entry into this Country that other Presidents have. Also most of us seems to forget that Hispanics are not the only illegals living in this Country there illegals here from all Countries including ones that have better economies and medical care than we do.

          5. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            LOL, they are the main ones. I have had highly educated family members who would like to immigrate here from Europe. No way Jose. It is an extremely difficult road. Not fair.

          6. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            You see we can’t. We actually come from families of LEGAL immigrants. You have no clue.

            I hear a completely different story out there. Several weeks ago we had a Ponga boat wash ashore here in our state. Seems they are beginning to outsmart the law and landing in very secluded places on the coast. They bring in drugs and people. In this case, it was people. There was not a trace of them anywhere. Arizona has their hands full as does Texas.

            Why not bring the military home and place them on the border….. This will deter many of them. Plus, it may even scare off some drug cartel.

            By rational discussion you mean a discussion that only goes in one direction. Yours. No thanks! We need a Quota. The reason Obama cannot seem to get a grip on this issue is because when the subject comes up people get right on line and email every single representative they can to end the discussion in legalizing illegals. Many people do not want it!

          7. 788eddie March 24, 2014

            The Posse Comitatus Act does makes it illegal (and rightly so) to use the US armed forces within our borders; something we should be verrry careful about.

            I’m curious; what state are you from?

          8. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            No, don’t think so… We need to become stricter and enforce the laws that were written to deter illegal immigration. It is not fair to people who come over here legally. I’m sorry you cannot understand that. The Bracero Program would allow people to come over here to work, make money, pay taxes and then take their money home, thereby; helping their Country financially and economically. The scales are tipped too far to the Left and they should not be allowed to bring their families.

            Yes, yes I understand your convictions with the Posse Cornitatus Act, yet we can use the National Guard and the Coast Guard. Along with local law enforcement, that would work because, after all, it is up to the state.

            Wikipedia regarding the Posse Cornitatus Act:

            ‘It does not apply to the National Guard
            under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within
            its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s

            I think you can guess which state I reside in. It is on the Coast.

          9. 788eddie March 24, 2014

            If I’m guessing correctly, your state is already sucking up a lot of federal funding. How much more do you want?!? Every road I travelled near the border had a Border Patrol checkpoint on it manned by a dozen or so personnel. While hiking, we ran into them again. Good thing we’re winding down in the middle east. It looks as if a lot of those boys who’ll be coming home will have a new job waiting for them.

            BTW, around where I live, hispanics seem to be doing all of the jobs that the rest of us don’t seem interested in doing; landscaping, road crews, building maintenance, etc. I don’t have a problem with that. If I go back a number of generations, my ancestors came from elsewhere, too. And I’ll bet they never even had to check in with anybody or fill in any forms, either.

          10. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            BTW, those jobs you mention used to be done by blue collar American workers. I do have a problem with that.

            Maybe your family came over with the Mayflower. In that case, everyone was welcome here. Immigration reform began in 1917 and allowed an equal number of citizens from around the world in. The reason for this was due to World War I and national security. I really do feel we are in a time when we face threats to our national security and I really do believe the quota should be reinstated. By the way, my family immigrated over to the US after WWII, LEGALLY.

      2. S.J. Jolly March 23, 2014

        If you and your family were starving, and there were plenty of good paying jobs you could get in Canada, but the wait for a legal entry permit was 10 years of more, would you wait that 10 years, or jump the border fence?

        1. joe schmo March 24, 2014

          That is no excuse. My family had to come over here the hard way. It was no give me.

          I believe in a program like the Bracero program. I don’t agree with a pathway to citizenship for all Hispanics. I believe in a quota so that it is fair for all nations that involve individuals who want to immigrate here. It should not reward ILLEGAL immigration.

          1. S.J. Jolly March 25, 2014

            Did your family’s “hard way” involve paying criminals thousands of dollars for assistance, then risking death by starvation, thirst, exposure, snake bite or murder, plus risk of rape, robbery and / or being held hostage and tortured for thousands of dollars more, plus risk of being apprehended by US legal authorities and imprisonment and deportation?

          2. joe schmo March 25, 2014

            For heavens sake. Spoken like a true Liberal. There is always an emotional response. My parents had to speak English, know the Constitution and they had to have, at least, $1000.00 in a bank account to come here.

            Why would you want to do that anyway? Risk your life just to get caught, die or get deported when you can come over here on a visa or work permit. To come here ILLEGALLY was their decision and we have nothing to do with it.

            If you are so intent in having migrant workers here that is what they should remain. In the mean time if they should decide they want to LIVE in the US, they need to apply and stand in line with the rest of the world. I don’t mind some of them becoming citizens. Not just all of them. What I resent is that there are way too many coming over the border and they are doing bad deeds for the drug cartel on top of it all. Once here, once they tire of migrant work they start infiltrating other areas of business which in turn pushes out American workers. In our family it has happened several times. Plus, they get passed over because we don’t speak Espanol and we are not Hispanic. I think that is very unfair especially since the job market is on its ass.

            With the Bracero program, they come over legally on a work permit or visa. They stay for the duration of the season and then they go home. Wouldn’t it be better economically all the way around if they took their money home (some of it which they send home anyway) and bring up their economy. Not only that they wouldn’t have to be held hostage, tortured for thousands (the money could be paid to our government in the form of taxes).

            What you state is scary. We cannot allow everyone from South of the border to reside here. It would totally ruin our culture and traditions. I don’t want to be Mexico 2. I already live in a very Hispanic state. If you look to see how they live in Mexico, I ask you, would you like to live like that? With all that corruption and filth, I certainly would not.

    2. paulyz March 23, 2014

      Wow meyati, you sound quite anti-American considering the great country you live in because of hundreds of years of hard-working American labor!

    3. joe schmo March 23, 2014

      Not me. There are enough American’s out of work and the Hispanics in this state get preferential treatment. Trust me, I know this to be true. I’m with the Moroccan….

  3. Dominick Vila March 23, 2014

    The biggest problem with our militarized border, is our wide open border with Canada, through which tens of thousands of Europeans and other immigrants enter the USA every year with impunity. It doesn’t take a genius to understand who is welcome and who is not, and why.
    I don’t support amnesty for illegal immigrants, regardless of ethnicity or culture, which is why I support the idea of immigration reform. Reagan kicked the can down the road in 1986, we need a permanent solution and the time for that is now.
    The most important facet of immigration reform involves a solution dealing with the entry of FUTURE immigrants. Obviously, the other component is dealing with the ones that are already here. I prefer Sen. McCain’s guest worker program because it legitimizes the status of those already living and working in the USA, forces them to pay taxes, but denies them a path to citizenship which they do not deserve because of their decision to break our law.
    I believe the children of illegal immigrants born in the USA are Americans. Since the Constitution is crystal clear on this issue, the only way to deny them citizenship would require a constitutional amendment.

    1. joe schmo March 23, 2014

      Villa, I am with you on this one…….

    2. S.J. Jolly March 23, 2014

      “… because of their decision to break our law.” You feel the same way about those persons. citizens or legal immigrants, who break laws other than our immigration laws?

      1. Dominick Vila March 24, 2014

        Yes. There is a price to pay when a person breaks the law and it doesn’t matter which law it is or whether the person was born in the USA or abroad. Otherwise, the only choice would be to take matters into our own hands, which is not the way to go in this day and age.
        On the issue of illegal immigration, as it relates to dealing with those who are already living and working in the USA, I believe the best solution was offered by Sen. McCain, when he proposed what he called a “guest worker program”. Unfortunately, he changed his tune when it became clear that his re-election chances were rapidly fading away.

        1. S.J. Jolly March 25, 2014

          It’s said, “If everyone who ever broke a law was jailed for it, there would be far more people in jail than out of jail.”

  4. paulyz March 23, 2014

    With all the costs & problems by Millions of Illegals, why is the National Memo worried about the U.S. securing our border? The number of drugs, criminals, terrorists, pregnant women, gang members is very alarming. Besides that, the costs to American Citizens & Legal Immigrants in: unemployment, health care, education, crime, overpopulation, & overuse of our valuable resources, is very alarming.

    1. S.J. Jolly March 23, 2014

      There are 10 or 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA, and some 370 million legal immigrants and born-here citizens. And it’s the 10 or 12 million that are causing all the problems you list?

      1. joe schmo March 24, 2014

        Many are causing problems. I see that in the State I live in. Gotta end. It’s too much of a burden to the Country. They need to abide by the laws and come to this Country the good ole fashioned way, LEGALLY.

        1. ken pifer March 24, 2014

          Secure our border with a double fence system about a mile apart. Between the two fences would be a no mans land with mines, drones and automated gun turrets. That should slow down the illegal traffic. Anyone in this country illegally should be immediately deported or jailed. We need to take care of our own people. You know, actual Americans that can’t find work because of the liberal policies that cater to everyone but Americans.

          1. joe schmo March 24, 2014

            LOL, that certainly would curb the influx. Deported and jailed is something we already do. It isn’t working because they keep coming….

            You are right. Many illegals who have already been here for a while will leave the menial labor market for higher paying jobs. Many push American citizens out of jobs. We have been victim’s of this twice leaving us to create our own work. No one has helped us. In fact, they will hire Hispanics over citizens because of this weird sense of ‘equal opportunity’ which often means not the most qualified person gets the job. I think it is plain flat out discrimination.

            Yah, Ken….I’m with you. We really need a solid deterrent to keep this from continuing…. If they are too afraid to come here. They will certainly stop. If they can’t get jobs or fringe benefits, they will self deport.

          2. S.J. Jolly March 25, 2014

            Likewise, if American citizens can’t get jobs or fringe benefits, they will self export — jump the boarder fence into Mexico.
            You want to make a real dent in the number of illegal Mexicans in America? Repeal NAFTA.

          3. joe schmo March 25, 2014

            Totally agree and I believe there is not one Conservative who would disagree with you. NAFTA and the Free Trade Agreement need to go…..

          4. S.J. Jolly March 25, 2014

            It’s more a problems of CONSERVATIVE policies, that are catering to the interests of the multi-national corporations and to the mega-rich who own them, that are the reason actual Americans can’t find work. Big business, that wants Americans as customers but not employees.

        2. S.J. Jolly March 25, 2014

          You don’t think the vast majority of those entering illegally would use the legal way, if it was available in any sort of timely manor? Waiting 10 or 20 years for a green card, when you and your family are in dire straits, out of the question for many.
          As for the illegals being too much of a burden for the country, I think the problem of the illegals is being greatly magnified, to make them scapegoats for the bad planning and insatiable greed of our economic leaders.

          1. joe schmo March 25, 2014

            Yes, through a program like the Bracero program they could come over here legally to work and, like I said before, they could then start the process of becoming a citizen. But, there also needs to be a quota. Just like the Coastal Commission only allowing 100 homes to be built in a housing tract a year, the same should go for human traffic.

            I don’t think it is being greatly magnified because I see how many of them are here. I do however agree with you with regards to bad planning and insatiable greed of our economic leaders on both sides. I think there are better ways to make this work for everyone. You see, this is how it should work. The swapping back and forth of ideas until a resolution comes about. At the moment everything is set up for us to go at each other instead of working together to resolve our issues. Hopefully, that will change again in 2016.

          2. S.J. Jolly March 26, 2014

            The only way things will change as you hope in 2016 is if there is the Resurrection, not merely an election. Sorry.

          3. joe schmo March 26, 2014

            With every new president comes a sort of ‘changing of the guards.’ This Man in office is one of the worst Presidents I have experienced in my lifetime and not because he is black. Like I said I voted for him in 2008.

            ….and I mean worse than Johnson and Carter put together. Can’t wait until he is outta there.

          4. S.J. Jolly March 27, 2014

            For all he righties screaming that Obama is a far-leftist, or worse, he closely fits the political profile of a traditional moderate Republican. Traditional, back before the Republican Party started sliding into the far right side of the American political stage

          5. joe schmo March 28, 2014

            Could you please explain that…. I would really like you to tell me what you mean by ‘traditional moderate Republican?’ I really don’t think my convictions have changed.

            Less government, low taxes, business incentives, amendment rights, legal immigration, strong military.

          6. S.J. Jolly March 28, 2014

            What you list have long been Republican platform planks, yes. The Republican moderates just have not been fanatics about them, to the point of shutting down the government.

            And, those terms mean different things to Republicans than to Democrats or Independents. “Less government” meaning less of those functions that aren’t helpful to us. “Low taxes” meaning ever lower taxes on our businesses — make up for the resulting deficits by raising taxes on everyone else. “Business incentives” meaning government socialism by another name. “Amendment rights” meaning we can discriminate against those we oppose. “Legal immigration” meaning H-1b visas for all the immigrants we want to bring in, to work for us cheap. “Strong military” meaning keeping the government contracts flowing, even for hardware the military doesn’t want.

          7. joe schmo March 29, 2014

            Less government-to you means more unions, less money spent on the military (remember many of our greatest innovations came from the military), less money spent on the space program (we were always the leader and are now giving it away) More money spent on social programs keeping the poor, lazy, nonworking above water. We desperately are trying to pay off the deficit so we get taxed more which gives us more of a burden.

            As far as business goes, and the fact that we have no extra money to spend Obama gave Brazil a $2 billion dollar loan to drill and keep oil on their land. Not only that we spent 70 million to send one of our astronauts up into space with the Russians. I could go on an on with this list but their is a reason for ALL of this and I think I finally understand where Obama is coming from and it ‘ain’t pretty.’

            You think you get everything that Obama stands for do you?….well here goes.

            Obama learned a lot from his father. Not to be disrespectful of the man but even though he attended Harvard, he was no knight in shining armor. He was a polygamist and an alcoholic who killed himself by running his car into a tree. We are always the products of our parents because they help mold who we are to become.

            You see Obama Sr. was an ‘Anticolonialist.’ The belief that the rich countries of the west got rich by invading, occupying, and looting, the poorer countries of Asia, Africa and South America. Anti-colonialists held the notion that even when they gained their independence from the countries that occupied them, they remained economically captive by the West. This dependence was called neocolonialism. ‘Poor countries may be nominally free, but they continue to be manipulated from abroad by powerful corporate and plutocratic elites. These forces of neocolonialism oppress not only Third World people but also citizens in their own countries. Obviously the solution is to overthrow the oppressors. This was the anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. and many in his generation, including many of my own relativesin India.’

            ‘As the Senior Obama put it, “We need to eliminate power structures that have been built through excessive accumulation so that not only a few individuals shall control a vast magnitude of resources as is the case now.” The
            senior Obama proposed that the state confiscate private land and raise taxes with no upper limit. In fact, he insisted that “theoretically there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of incomeso long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed.”

            While the senior Obama called for Africa to free itself from the
            neocolonial influence of Europe and specifically Britain, he knew when
            he came to America in 1959 that the global balance of power was
            shifting. Even then he recognized what has become a new tenet of
            anticolonialist ideology: Today’s neocolonial leader is not Europe but
            America. As the late Palestinian scholar Edward Said–who was one of
            Obama’s teachers at Columbia University–wrote in Culture and Imperialism, “The United States has replaced the earlier great empires and is the dominant outside force.”

            From the anticolonial perspective, American imperialism is on a rampage. For a while, U.S. power was checked by the Soviet Union, but
            since the end of the Cold War America has been the sole superpower. Moreover, 9/11 provided the occasion for America to invade and occupy
            two countries, Iraq and Afghanistan, and also to seek political and economic domination in the same way the French and the British empires
            once did. So in the anticolonial view, America is now the rogue elephant that subjugates and tramples the people of the world.

            It may seem incredible to suggest that the anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. is espoused by his son, the President of the United
            States. That is what I am saying. From a very young age and through his formative years Obama learned to see America as a force for global
            domination and destruction. He came to view America’s military as an instrument of neocolonial occupation. He adopted his father’s position
            that capitalism and free markets are code words for economic plunder. Obama grew to perceive the rich as an oppressive class, a kind of neocolonial power within America. In his worldview, profits are a
            measure of how effectively you have ripped off the rest of society, and America’s power in the world is a measure of how selfishly it consumes
            the globe’s resources and how ruthlessly it bullies and dominates the rest of the planet.

            For Obama, the solutions are simple. He must work to wring the neocolonialism out of America and the West. And here is where our anticolonial understanding of Obama really takes off, because it
            provides a vital key to explaining not only his major policy actions but also the little details that no other theory can adequately account for.’


            ….Now I understand it all. I never knew why he wanted to ruin this country. I couldn’t believe he would want to do such a thing but here is the evidence. He hates this country because of its wealth and prosperity, and his plan is to ‘take it down.’ Just to think it was you fools who elected him. Well…..good luck with that one. In the blink of an eye, if things continue the way they are, we will be the newest edition to the 3rd world. Thank you!

          8. S.J. Jolly March 29, 2014

            To sum up your posting: Either we do any and everything the big capitalists running the USA want, or we will destroy the USA? I.e., is perfectly fine for capitalists to form combinations to influence legislation and government policy, but combinations of workers (i.e., unions) for the same purpose must not be allowed, as they will ruin the country? [“Trust us. We’re here from Big Business”?]
            Amusingly, you see Obama as far, far, more dogmatic than any of his supporters do. Would that he was even one-tenth that activist!

            If the USA, along with most all other nations of the world, end up as giant banana republics, with a few ultra-rich families owning and controlling everything, it will not be because of unions and “anti-colonialism” but because Big Money succeeds in grabbing control of all the money, property, and levers of power.

          9. joe schmo March 29, 2014

            You misunderstand my statement.

            I suspect, and if you read the entirety of what posted, you would understand that Obama is not here to help protect us from those beastly savage Corporations, he is out to plain flat out ruin us because he hates prosperity and, basically, the Western domination that has been so prevalent Globally for centuries. Stooping down to the level of a 3rd world nation is like moving backwards into the Dark Ages…..

            So, what do we have. A country lowering it standards and changing its laws because it has been too successful with regards to free enterprise Of course, all the interference with other countries has come right back to slap us upside the head. Really doesn’t matter if our occupation was too the other Countries betterment and believe me for some countries it was.

            You and your stupid idea of big money. The 1% corporations that you constantly lament about are Liberal businesses. I guess that doesn’t count?

            ‘As manufacturing moves abroad, we have fewer and fewer of the old-school capitalist rich, and the middle class is shrinking as the wealth to support it is eroding away.

            And why is this happening?

            Because of Democrat party attacks on wealth-creating, capitalist private business through excessive taxes, regulation, lawsuits, enviro restrictions and labor union agitation.

            ‘In fact many of today’s socialist rich are environmentalists who do not even believe in the extraction of resources. This happens even though they use more resources than anyone, like Oprah Winfrey flying around in her private jet while showcasing Al Gore on her TV show and supporting bans on oil production across the US.

            These socialists do not get rich through wealth creation like Henry Ford did but by taking for themselves larger and larger chunks of America’s existing wealth through wealth appropriation. And they indeed are getting richer as America gets poorer.’

            You never will see a liberal on the frontier with his sleeves rolled up. Or surveying a railroad line through the wilderness. Or exploring for an oil deposit in the bug-infested jungle.

            Indeed, after wealth is created through hard work the socialists at every level set up shop. So, for instance, the moment that a capitalist company becomes economically successful, you will see the unions moving in to get as much of that wealth as possible. But those unions never take any of the risk involved or put in the long hours to build that company up.

            Or once a company is successful you will find the government taxing it relentlessly; or the Democrat trial lawyers seeking any grounds for a lawsuit. Because liberals are in love with money more than any capitalist ever was.

            Easy money, that is… Money that they can “take”, not “earn”.


            Do you understand the above statements or are you going to give me another slight of hand and say how necessary it is to distribute the wealth. That’s Communist. Government is big money and mismanaged money. They just want more and more and expect us to suck it up. Unions are big money. Often corrupt money… So you are in favor of punishing every company big or small for their success. These are the people who hire us. You’re kidding right?

            I know all to well the history of Europe before, during and after WWii. My family lived it. Every country where you have a division of power between rich and poor ends up in the history books. No middle class ends up in disaster.

            The Conservatives and I don’t mean our representatives see what is up the road. I see it on multiple posts all over the web. All of us think the same way. Doesn’t matter if we are TP, Constitutionalists etc.., You apparently don’t. Your eyes are wired shut.

            Sad, you just don’t see it. I don’t want to change your opinion. Just want you to look beyond your narrow-mindedness…. I’m willing to wager on some issues but there is a difference between me making up my own mind about our problems or being forced to tow the line….and that is what is being done. I’m being forced….and that is a short road to Communist/Anti-colonialist ideology. A road that only leads to disaster.

          10. S.J. Jolly March 31, 2014

            “You and your stupid idea of big money. The 1% corporations that you constantly
            lament about are Liberal businesses. I guess that doesn’t count? ”
            No the problem is that I do understand your statements.
            You are so far to the Right that you probably would consider Attila the Hun to have been a Communist.

          11. joe schmo April 1, 2014

            No…..It’s a fact. Sorry, the big new money is all in the Liberal’s hands….and dare I say that these wealth creators are making more and more of it. Thanks to fools like you. Corporations….You mean like Zuckenberg who just made 3.3 billion on his own stocks. LOL,….I think you need to do some research:)

            Attila the Hun was quite the warrior. In a time when plundering was still the fashion. No I don’t condone a forceful takeover…..Hmmmm by forceful,….. let’s see just like the Republican who signed up for the ACA, and when he received his paperwork, he also got a sheet marked voter registration with ‘Democrat’ checked off. Wow, sounds like a Middle Eastern or Russian tactic to me…. and you wonder why we get upset!

          12. S.J. Jolly April 2, 2014

            A common characteristic of “outage incidents,” such as the voter registration you mention, is that the stories are full of half truths. Even if the story is 100% true, the registration form means nothing until the person fills it out, signs it, and turns it in — hardly any sort of dictatorial Middle Eastern or Russian tactic to compel the individual to vote Democrat.
            Let me guess: You consider the Koch brothers, et al, to be Liberals? Maybe because you are far, far to the Right of them?

          13. joe schmo April 3, 2014

            You think! Shame….even when it is starring you in the face you still find a way to avoid the facts. Now let’s just say this little notice with ‘Democrat’ checked off was sent too….an illegal/in your case, entitled immigrant. Still reminds me of Middle Eastern/Russian tactics. Honestly, I think it is ruse.

            Koch brothers….hec no… I feel they are one of the 1% truly on the Conservative side:) Actually the family made money the old fashioned way by earning it and investing wisely. They employ 50,000 Americans. Of course, they are imbedded in the oil industry. Something you all hate.

            Can’t say that for George Soros:

            ‘Soros may be the biggest political fat cat of all time. Convicted in France of insider trading, Soros specializes in weakening or collapsing
            the currencies of entire nations for his own selfish interests. He is known as the man who broke the Bank of England. His power is such that
            his statements alone can cause currencies to go up or down. Other people suffer so he can get rich. ‘

            Such an honest way to make money….and you all can’t handle the Koch’s because you want the entire schmear going into your coffers. Little selfish isn’t it?

          14. S.J. Jolly April 3, 2014

            Ever consider what you see as my beliefs (and certainly other people’s), is actually a reflection of your own fears? That the devils you see everywhere are actually in you own mind?

          15. joe schmo April 4, 2014

            LOL….not really. Got too much common sense for that. Something I cannot say for the like of you all. Of course, I fear for this Country and the suppression I do not want to see.

            Maybe the ‘flurrious’ fairy land that you attribute Obama’s lies to are actually a fantasy in your own drugged out mind.

          16. S.J. Jolly April 5, 2014


          17. joe schmo April 6, 2014

            Seriously? The end of a proof…..the theorem is debunked….LOL good one!

  5. S.J. Jolly March 23, 2014

    Gotta keep our military-industrial-intelligence complex employed, regardless of cost to the rest of us. Right?

  6. charles king March 23, 2014

    WHY? has Immigration become a big national problem. Who? are the people doing the complaining. What? the hell is going on in America. I was station in San Diego the year 1948, and I travel across the bridge into Mexico many many many times Now, Mexico become different than going and coming from Canada. Who? is ordering this deportation and Why? Now? The big problem in America is Our Republicans and Democracts Not doing their job of protecting our Democracy. MONIES are dictating What? they want Congress and the Senate to do. The President needs the People’s help in making the system work. VOTE the troblemakers OUT your VOTE is still Supreme. Mexico is Not the problem their are many fasions out there that Wants? to destroy your Democracy. Where has our Democracy gone. Thank You are the magic words with me. I Love Ya All. P. S. Be-Ware of (Greedy Capitialistic Pigs, Plutocracts (with their MONIES from all over the World) Republicans and Democracts Who? are control by MONIES. MR. C. E. KING


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