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Wikileaks: What If Someone Hacked Julian Assange’s Emails?

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Wikileaks founder Julian Assange at news conference

To understand the exposure of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s emails by Wikileaks, it may be helpful to try a few simple thought experiments.

What if the National Security Agency stole tens of thousands of emails from a politician in another country — or better yet, from a different politician here — and then published them on a friendly website, creating humiliation and chaos in order to sway a national election?

It isn’t hard to imagine the cries of indignation, the furious editorials, and the thunderous demands for official heads to roll in the face of such terrible constitutional violations.

Or what if the NSA purloined the email traffic of a troublesome American journalist, in order to showcase the less uplifting details of how our best newspapers pursue and publish controversial stories — including the doubts often expressed by reporters, editors, and lawyers about sources and methods? The explosion of anger in the press at any such incursion would be thermonuclear.

Or what if, even more pertinently, the NSA contrived to hack the communications of Wikileaks itself, releasing electronic proof of its rumored ties to the Trump campaign via dirty trickster Roger Stone — and its suspected dependence on the Kremlin’s corps of outsourced hackers? Wikileaks founder Julian Assange probably wouldn’t appreciate the irony of a US government agency applying his vaunted “transparency” ethic to his own operations. And just as surely, his defenders in the press and civil society would be outraged too.

Historians know that various agents of the United States government have committed similar acts and much worse from time to time. When their misconduct was discovered, they were subject to harsh criticism and occasionally even punishment.

But why should anyone still object to such intrusive actions by our government, when the pilfering of Podesta’s private communications — apparently perpetrated by an unfriendly foreign government — is not only accepted but celebrated?

Journalists rummage through all the personal messages gleefully, with little thought for the harm their publication may inflict on innocent people. Last week, for instance, many outlets quoted emails that named a former Clinton Foundation executive who suffered from bouts of suicidal depression. She is a single mother who isn’t involved in the Clinton presidential campaign. Revealing her distress had no high-minded purpose; its only aim was to smear reputations and its only effect was to damage a struggling family.

But that didn’t matter if her lonely nightmare could be spun into a sensational story about the Clintons. Protecting the privacy and security of American citizens — a principle described as universal during the debate over NSA surveillance — seems to be highly selective in practice. Of course, that’s how the Clinton Rules work.

Perhaps a bombshell of world-shattering consequence is hidden in the remaining cache of emails, but what we have learned so far from thousands of numbing pages is instead banal. Was anyone unaware that Hillary Clinton is a cautious, thoughtful, sometimes calculating politician? Is anyone surprised that people in and around a presidential campaign, a government bureaucracy, a charitable foundation, or any human organization, are sometimes prone to insults and intrigues?

And does anyone believe that emails hijacked from another campaign would prove less mortifying? Think what the Republican chairman might be saying about his candidate’s self-inflicted sex scandal. Or what Bernie Sanders, his wife Jane, and campaign aides discussed when they decided not to reveal their federal income taxes, as they had publicly promised.

As for Clinton, negative inferences about her sincerity are balanced if not erased by more positive impressions. An October 10 editorial in the Washington Post observed that her Wikileaks persona is “a knowledgeable, balanced political veteran with sound policy instincts and a mature sense of how to sustain a decent, stable democracy,” as well as “a level of self-awareness unimaginable in her opponent.”

It is fair to say that journalists searching for scandal in the Wikileaks emails are merely doing an unlovely job that cannot be avoided; some of the Podesta emails are indeed newsworthy. But still more newsworthy than anything uncovered so far is that one candidate must endure this scathing process, while the other evades even the most basic disclosures expected of every presidential candidate.

Many of those same eager journalists dismiss comparisons between Wikileaks and Watergate, another felonious scheme to steal politically sensitive materials from Democratic leaders. They scarcely seem to comprehend the true scandal: a criminal conspiracy behind the theft and distribution of these documents, enacted on behalf of a fascistic candidate and an authoritarian regime. They do no service to democracy by minimizing or ignoring it.

IMAGE: File photo of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange gesturing during a news conference at the Ecuadorian embassy in central London

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Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers.

Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003).

Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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48 Comments

  1. Dominick Vila October 19, 2016

    What if someone hacked Assange’s e-mails? Honestly, I doubt anyone would care. Assange is not an issue for most people, if nothing else because he is irrelevant and because most people are not interested in the minutiae that he and his Russian friends disseminate.
    Our electorate is divided into two groups: one considers the qualifications, experience, temperament, and vision of the candidates; the other is interested in specific issues, such as abortion, same sex marriage, and simple solutions to the complex, and often self-inflicted, problems they face.
    For both, the subtle, often doctored, revelations in Assange’s leaks are irrelevant, if nothing else, because we are more interested in issues that affect us directly, or that either support or compromise our values, than what foreigners have to say about our candidates and ourselves.

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    1. I Am Helpy October 19, 2016

      Let me sum that up for you: Democrats are too smart and Republicans are too dumb.

      😛

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      1. BDD1951 October 19, 2016

        That’s about it in my book.

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      2. JPHALL October 19, 2016

        And as proof, just read the postings of right wing responses on this blog. All opinion and right wing web conspiracy sites.

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  2. Box October 19, 2016

    Im glad someone asked that because in the mainstream news channels the worry among the anchors and staff has switched from Hillary to themselves. They realized that if someone can hack Hillary they can hack them too, and you too, and now its “screw hillary, what about ME?” And they are scurrying like cockroaches, with one staff even beginning to admit things on camera to somehow diffuse someones revelations about her later. Good luck with that.

    But the strange thing is, the anchors demanded a stop to hacking and spying but where have they been for years while Obama ramped up NSA? Everything was just fine when someone ELSE were being hacked, but NOW they complain when the hacking is hitting close to home??

    Hacking/spying started in a response to 911 and when Obama came he saw a valuable tool there and worked to get it all jacked up to full speed. There is no person on the planet who isnt on a list somewhere and Snowdens advice all along has been to never say anything you dont want repeated. News people have known this too but somehow thought Obama was protecting “special people” and loyalists. But its not true, everyone is fair game.

    I know a foreigner, he is an IT person who tried to teach me methods of protection but I cant catch the drift because real protection involves deep spaces in the DOS code world and im not a coder. Commercial software does more spy harm than spy help. Snowden repeatedly has said get out of FB and all that but people dont listen and like Hillary, they will pay for it.

    As far as Assange, recall that he isnt a hacker, only a publisher of documents handed to him. Whats in his emails? I will guess two things, discussion of documents with hackers and trying to get out of his predicament of asylum/exile. Largely boring stuff.

    What isnt boring are the frequent attempts to kill Assange. Who and why? That has to be Obama himself, not Hillarys campaign, because Obama will find himself implicated in Hillarys Benghazi troubles and no, we just cant have that.

    Is that a GOP conspiracy lie? Consider a point. A few weeks ago I mentioned to a friend the question of why Obama always stutters when he mentions Trump. Ok, its a small thing, nothing. But then this article came about it. Take a look at the article and connect the dots–assange, emails, hillary, benghazi, obama, trump, prosecutions, fbi. Is stuttering any wonder? Hey, fine, its just a simple fluke, means nothing, no connection to anything. But its only Trumps name he stutters over and thats peculiar. Oh, and whats that Trump said, he is going to be elected and get a special prosecutor? Ahh! But nevermind that, no connection to the stuttering, forgive me.

    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/how-come-every-time-obama-tries-to-publicly-diss-trump-he-stutters

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    1. jmprint October 19, 2016

      “What isnt boring are the frequent attempts to kill Assange. Who and why? That has to be Obama himself, not Hillarys campaign, because Obama will find himself implicated in Hillarys Benghazi troubles and no, we just cant have that.”

      That is some heavy accusations there. How about Assange trying to cover his ass on his rape case, I’d like to see those emails.

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      1. bobnstuff October 19, 2016

        If Obama wanted him dead he would be. Assange is only alive because he’s not worth the price to kill.

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  3. Box October 19, 2016

    The question of the article is not really serious, right? When Assange was whacking Bush he was a savior, a messiah to the left. Now he turns to Hillary and he is a scoundrel, liar, pig, thief, traitor, scum and invention of Trump and Putin and GOP nutcase domestic conspiracy terrorists. GO FIGURE.

    I cant wait for Trump to win and you Communists will be listening to their new savior and messiah, Alex Jones, the scum scoundrel liar traitor (who doesnt pick sides), for the next eight years conspirorizing about Trump. Oh this is a laugh! I’ll be the first one here to L M A O.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker October 19, 2016

      Assange never once “whacked” Bush and you know it. Nice try though Boxie. Can you show us a clip from one of those Whacked Bush emails? You bet you can’t. Not when Cheney’s first act in January 2001 was to destroy over 2 million emails that alluded to collusion between Bush and Reagan over ContraGate. But keep up your irresponsible lies and you will continue to prove who and what you are…a desperate man who will lie if you must to keep your wrongheaded mindset.

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    2. Grannysmovin October 19, 2016

      He box you are aware that Trumpski’s father-in-law was and may still be a card carrying Communist and his wife was raised in a Communist home. Your candidate is going to trial for committing fraud on hard working Americans with his Trump U scan, had to stop soliciting funds for his Charitable Foundation because he was soliciting funds illegally, used the funds he collected not for charitable contributions but for himself, he is being investigated for soliciting campaign donations from foreign countries, he has a been accused by a 13 year old for sexual assault and will face a hearing in December on that, he violated the Cuban Embargo, may have violated the Iranian embargo, Fact checkers have said that 91% of what Trumpski says is a lie – so bad that his own attorneys knew he lies so much they always have two of them attend a meeting with him to back each other up, has had three high placed campaign personnel with ties to Russia and here is some reading material: http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/10/09/breaking-abc-uncovers-millions-of-payments-from-russia-to-trump-campaign-panics/ http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/10/17/investigation-just-found-trump-hundreds-businesses-russia/ http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/09/23/bombshell-abc-reveals-trump-paid-hundreds-millions-russian-oligarchs-2/ http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/ http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07/26/breaking-gop-lawyer-george-will-reveals-trump-hiding-bribes-from-russia-in-his-tax-returns/
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/heres-what-we-know-about-donald-trump-and-his-ties-to-russia/2016/07/29/1268b5ec-54e7-11e6-88eb-7dda4e2f2aec_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

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      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 450017, Republic of Bashkortostan in Ufa ,, ,, AKHMETOV STREET, HOUSE 225, Apartments 98,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 420000, Republic of Tatarstan city of Kazan ,, ,, Vosstaniya street, 100 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “NC-TRUMP” 350011, KRASNODAR EDGE ,, ,, STREET CITY KRASNODAR Starokubanskaya, 2 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 404111, VOLGOGRAD REGION CITY ,, ,, VOLZHSKY Lenin Prospect, 78 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 127083, Moscow ,,,, Maslovka STREET W., Building 28, Building 2, POM. II of, KOMN.12,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “CARGO TRUMP” 143022, MOSCOW REGION, DISTRICT ,, Odintsovo VILLAGE SUMMER RECREATION, HIGHWAY Zvenigorodskoe, 3.1 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 182500, oblast Pskov, Nevelsk DISTRICT, CITY ,, Nevel Engels Street, 7 ,,,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 685000, Region Magadan Magadan ,, ,, Street Gagarin, 28, 159,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 170008, TVER AREA ,, city of Tiberias STREET ,, 15 YEARS OF OCTOBER, 12, Building 1, III of ROOMS,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 644031, Omsk City Omsk ,, ,, Zvezdova STREET, 160, 27,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” , AREA Tverskaya region of the Kalinin, the city of Tver AVENUE ,, TCHAIKOVSKY, 19 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “MUST TRUMP” 160001, area the Vologda Vologda city ,, ,, Batiushkov STREET, 11, 516,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “BALTIC TRUMP” 198096, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, AVENUE strikes, 92,1,60,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 634006, Tomsk TOMSK CITY ,, ,, RAILWAY STREET, 30, 35,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 153000, AREA ,, IVANOVSKAJa Ivanovo ,, Street Post, 6 ,,,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “COMPANY” TRUMP ” 169711, Komi Republic Usinsk ,, ,, STREET YOUTH, 25, 68,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “Trump M” 153000, AREA ,, IVANOVSKAJa Ivanovo ,, TRAVEL 10-J, 18, 27,
      Individual Private Enterprise “TRUMP” 663305, region Krasnoyarsk ,, ,, STREET Norilsk Talnakh, 66, 40,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 153000, AREA ,, IVANOVSKAJa Ivanovo STREET ,, Lezhnevskaya, 138A ,, 40,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 142155, MOSCOW REGION, DISTRICT ,, PODILSKY working village LVIV ,,,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “FOREST TRUMP” 614017, PERM EDGE ,, ,, STREET CITY PERM Turgenev, 6 ,,,
      Municipal budgetary educational institution of additional education for children “STATION OF CHILDREN AND YOUTH TOURISM AND SIGHTSEEING” TRUMP “” Kirovsky district of Kazan 420097, Republic of Tatarstan city of Kazan ,, ,, STREET Zatonskaya, 12 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “STATUS TRUMP” 183039, Murmansk MURMANSK CITY ,, ,, Knipovich STREET, 22, 39,
      Individual Private Enterprise “TRUMP” GR.SHKIBERA SI 394065, VORONEZH REGION CITY ,, ,, VORONEZH STREET Dundycha Olek, 25, 121,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” , EDGE PERM PERM CITY ,, ,, STREET HEROES Hassan 7A ,,,
      Individual Private Enterprise “Trump AG” 248010, AREA ,, KALUZhSKAJa Kaluga City ,, STREET TELEVISION, 14,1,71,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 109202, Moscow ,,,, ROAD MILLING, House 5/1, I KOM.46 ROOM,
      TRUMP Ltd. 119602, Moscow ,,,, STREET ANOKHIN ACADEMIC, 44 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 119180, Moscow ,,,, LANE TAILS 1-J, 11A ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY GROUP TRUMP 119517, Moscow ,,,, STREET Nezhinskaya, 19.1 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 630099, Novosibirsk NOVOSIBIRSK CITY ,, ,, STREET YADRINTSEVSKAYA, 16 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 623408, Region Sverdlovsk ,, CITY ,, Kamensk-Suvorov Street, 24 ,,,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY WITH FOREIGN INVESTMENT “POLAR TRUMP COMPANY” 183038, Murmansk MURMANSK CITY ,, ,, Pushkinskaya street, 10 ,,,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 614046, PERM EDGE ,, ,, STREET CITY PERM papanintsev, 3, 2,
      LIMITED LIABILITY TRUMP 650,070, AREA ,, KEMEROVSKAJa Kemerovo STREET ,, Tukhachevskogo 101 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 141400, MOSCOW REGION Khimki ,, ,, STREET Leningradskaya, house 1 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP COMPANY” 603000, AREA ,, NIZHEGORODSKAYA in Nizhny Novgorod STREET ,, YAROSLAVL, 4, 6,
      Ltd. TRUMP 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, Moscow boulevard, 57-A ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 142134, MOSCOW REGION, DISTRICT ,, PODILSKY VILLAGE BANNER OF OCTOBER 31.4 ,, ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 192281, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, Kupchinskaya STREET, 16, LIT. A A.11-H
      TRUMP LLP 350089, KRASNODAR EDGE ,, ,, STREET CITY KRASNODAR IM 70 YEARS OF OCTOBER, 24, 84,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 634063, Tomsk ,, TOMSK CITY STREET ,, Sergey Lazo, 27, 110,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP LF” 350061, KRASNODAR EDGE ,, CITY KRASNODAR STREET ,, lace, HOUSE 3 ROOMS 49 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 420073, Republic of Tatarstan city of Kazan ,, ,, GUARDS STREET, HOUSE ,, ROOM 16B 3,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “Trump and K” 454007, CHELYABINSK OBLAST CHELYABINSK CITY ,, ,, STREET First Five Year Plan, 39 ,,,
      JOINT STOCK COMPANY CLOSED TRUMP 117421, Moscow ,,,, STREET innovator, 40,12,55,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 455026, CHELYABINSK OBLAST ,, ,, Magnitogorsk Suvorov Street, 105, 75,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 687,000, EDGE Transbaikal DISTRICT ,, Agin Agin urban village, STREET BAZAAR Rinchino, 84 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 620137, Region Sverdlovsk City Ekaterinburg ,, ,, STREET Blucher, 61, A, 12,
      JOINT STOCK COMPANY CLOSED TRUMP 129272, Moscow STREET ,,,, ,,,, Trifonovskaya D.56
      TRUMP Tatiana V. ECP 129301, Moscow 8.2 ,,,,, ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP OPTION” 125171, Moscow ,,,, LENINGRADSKOE HIGHWAY 116 ,,,
      TRUMP JSC 119192, Moscow ,,,, AVENUE LOMONOSOV, 33.2 ,,
      TRUMP FARM 129272, Moscow STREET ,,,, ,,,, Trifonovskaya D.56
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP +” 109544, Moscow INTERNATIONAL STREET ,,,, 15 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 191040, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, AVENUE LIGOVSKY, 87 ,,,
      CJSC “TRUMP” 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, STREET Ushinskogo 35 ,,,
      “Trump FISH” TSOO, FIRM 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,,,,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 127081, Moscow STREET Molodtsova ,,,, 21 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “Trump OIL” 197227, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, AVENUE testers, 6, K.1, Lit. ,,
      TSOO TRUMP 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, SAMPSONIEVSKY AVENUE B., 93 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 630099, Novosibirsk NOVOSIBIRSK CITY ,, ,, Sovetskaya Street, 14 ,,,
      MP “TRUMP” 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,,,,,,
      PARTNERSHIP LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 456783, CHELYABINSK REGION CITY ,, ,, Ozersk STREET BUILDING, 35 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 143005, MOSCOW REGION, DISTRICT Odintsovo, Odintsovo STREET ,, Chistyakov, 2 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 620007, Region Sverdlovsk City Ekaterinburg ,, ,, LATVIAN STREET, 36, 138,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP TRAVEL” 119071, Moscow ,,,, STREET KALUZhSKAJa M., 1, page 4 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “industrial association for public services” TRUMP ” 117186, Moscow ,,,, AVENUE SEVASTOPOL, 37 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 659,314, EDGE ALTAJjSKIJj ,, in Biysk, a settlement tank farms, oil depots STREET ,,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY TRUMP 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,,,,,,
      RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION COMPANY “TRUMP” (PARTNERSHIP WITH LIMITED LIABILITY) 680000, EDGE KHABAROVSK Khabarovsk City ,, ,, STREET Sheronova, 75 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY TRUMP SERVICE 125009, Moscow ,,,, Tverskaya Street, 3, p.1 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 656037, EDGE ALTAJjSKIJj ,, ,, Barnaul Prospekt Kalinina, 67 A ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 129110, Moscow ,,,, Prospect Mira, 76, Building 2 ,,
      TRUMP LLP 190000, Saint Petersburg city ,,,,,,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “Trump DV” 191011, Saint Petersburg city ,,,, GARDEN STREET, 10, 28,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TEP TRUMP” 115035, Moscow ,,,, QUAY Kosmodamianskaya, 40-42,3 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP TRADE” 109125, Moscow STREET LJuBLINSKAJa ,,,, 2 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP” 119049, Moscow ,,,, Lyusinovskaya LANE 3RD, Building 1, Building 1 ,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY Trump BC 101000, Moscow ,,,, STREET Serpukhovsko B., 31 ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “TRUMP +” 125424, Moscow ,,,, TRAVEL Volokolamsk, 4 A ,,,
      LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY “OLYMPIC TRUMP 09” 350000, KRASNODAR EDGE ,, ,, AVENUE CITY KRASNODAR Chekist, 25/2 ,,,

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      1. Mama Bear October 19, 2016

        seriously? You have done a heck of a lot of research on this. These are all the properties Trump owns in and around Moscow??

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        1. Grannysmovin October 19, 2016

          In one of the articles it was a link within the article.

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          1. Mama Bear October 19, 2016

            thank you for sharing it!

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      2. Anna Maria Yoakum October 19, 2016

        Wow, eye-opening information. Always knew the Trumpster had ties with Russia, would be great to know what his secret plans are. One could bet that whatever he has up his sleeve is not for benefit of our nation and definitely does not benefit the average, middle class American (which Trump cannot, in any way, mutually relate to since he has never been anything except extremely wealthy).

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      3. stcroixcarp October 19, 2016

        Good going, Granny.

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      4. dpaano October 19, 2016

        I think you got them all!!!

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    3. charleo1 October 19, 2016

      What the heck was that all about? And Alex Jones, Trump’s new information minister? whew!

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      1. jmprint October 19, 2016

        One flew over the cuckoo’s nest.

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  4. The lucky one October 19, 2016

    “what we have learned so far from thousands of numbing pages is instead banal.” If that’s true Joe why are you so worked up over it. I agree though that most of it is nothing we didn’t already know. We all assumed that Hillary’s bankster talks were just a way for her to pad her bank account and that she says one thing to her donors and another to her constituents

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  5. Eleanore Whitaker October 19, 2016

    What if someone hacked into Assange’s emails? What indeed! Assange is a control freak in a generation of men who lust for such andocratic control that is now mania level.

    Assange never intended more than to destroy the US because our CIA knew his invasion of classified information was a serious national security risk.

    Ask yourselves why it is a low life rapist and predator of an 8 year old girl online feels so entitled to invade the rights of others. You can find his mentality in any mental hospital.

    If someone, anyone DARED to invade Assange’s rights he would do what he’s been doing, squeal like a stuck pig. That’s what these control freaks always do. They can do as they damn well please. Just don’t dare do it to them or they will roll on the floor and go into a freakish tantrum. These are just men who have NEVER been forced to grow up and become RESPONSIBLE adults.

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  6. Eleanore Whitaker October 19, 2016

    Trump complains and whines the elections are rigged. If the election was going in his favor? Not a whisper of rigged elections. Assange claims the US coerced Venezuela into slicing up his internet access. If Venezuela had allowed Assange to hack into classified military information? Not a whisper from Assange about HIS coercion with Venezuela to allow him to do that.

    See? These boys are nothing but WIMPS with the brain power of 3 year old kids. If they get their way, Happy Days are Here Again! If they don’t? Armageddon, The End of the World and Doom and Gloom! roflmao

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    1. Mama Bear October 19, 2016

      sounds like a good assessment to me:)

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  7. charleo1 October 19, 2016

    What I think is important to remember is each pilfered email represents a crime that will most likely go un-prosecuted. As the actor, or actors are often beyond the reach of U.S. law enforcement. An act of thievery that has abridged the target’s 4th Amendment Right to privacy. And is an activity, that if we fail to find ways of stopping if, threatens to obliterate any semblance of privacy. Or what, if any, of that precious commodity yet remains. And also, that the ability of foreign, or domestic entities to break into systems, and do untold harm to our economy, our water supply, to shut down our electric grid, steal technology, or meddle in our electoral process, should be recognized for the dire, and ongoing National Security threat it poses.
    Secondly we need to remember these pieces of correspondence are not immune from tampering. They are not like hot mikes, or video tape. And we shouldn’t be treating them as such. But I’m afraid many are. One losing Presidential candidate is placing his last best hope of winning on what Russian hackers, and Julian Assange might steal that would upend the campaign of his opponent. When Nixon’s men broke in to steal confidential files, and he used the power of his office to cover it up. We knew a crime had been committed, an oath betrayed. We should apply those same standards for the exact same crimes we’re seeing today.

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    1. Bob_OR October 19, 2016

      “Nixon’s men broke in to steal confidential files, and he used the power of his office to cover it up. We knew a crime had been committed, an oath betrayed.”

      The public DIDN’T know a crime had been committed and an oath was betrayed until Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein published documents given to then by a whistleblower, at the time, known only as “Deepthroat.”

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      1. charleo1 October 19, 2016

        I don’t see people such as Russian hackers paid by the Russian Govt. as “whistle blowers.” working in the interests of the American People. Far from it. But as foreign entities carrying out a mission for a Nation which is at the present time in virtual cyber combat with my Country. And if we believe their thievery will cease, or be limited to our political processes, or to the people who work for political organizations. And won’t be used to blackmail pubic officials with their private, and non governmental information. About their families, their close friends, and relationships, or their possible financial problems, etc… we’re only kidding ourselves.

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        1. Bob_OR October 19, 2016

          I didn’t say nor allude to Russian hackers being “whistleblowers.”
          I was referring to your comment that “. . . We knew a crime had been committed, an oath betrayed.” I stand with my first comment.

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          1. charleo1 October 19, 2016

            Got it. And so when these alleged emails, and other hacked correspondence are verified as not having been tampered with.
            Which at this juncture they have not been. And I think that was my other point. They are being presented as fact, that we now know, when that may not be the case at all. It goes to evidentiary chain of possession. And to the extent they might have been altered, and so may alter our electoral decisions. I think that’s a dangerous thing. That one or ten may prove true. But there are thousands, and we can’t assume simply because the first ten were accurate, the eleventh will not contain supposed explosive revelations that are complete fabrications. It’s all very bad business IMO.

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      2. bobnstuff October 19, 2016

        If a crime had been committed it would have been been one thing but these Emails are being released to make Clinton look bad. We are not dealing with a whistleblower, we are dealing with receiving stolen goods.

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  8. FT66 October 19, 2016

    I don’t understand at all why journalists have to entertain, rejoice and encourage anything which they know has been stolen. We know there are secrets everywhere: between friends, families, in offices/workplaces, in different races, in governments, even in one person alone etc. etc. All these people have secrets and don’t want to share them with others except amongst themselves. Secrets make people to bind together and function as they wish. It is a big sin or rather a crime to steal someone’s secrets and publish them so that everyone has to see. It is insane and it is beyond how civilised people live, respect each other and live in a harmony.

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    1. sycosimian October 19, 2016

      Some secrets cannot remain secret. Do you really want George Soros pulling the strings and swamping America with violent Jihadists posing as refugees? The content of these leaks is particularly important. This isn’t someone who is running to be chairman of the local WI, this is a person running for the white house whose reckless foreign policy of regime change and tacitly funding radical Sunni terrorists to keep her buddies in the arms companies happy has sown absolute mayhem worldwide. How many more war crimes have to be committed using American weapons? How many more innocent people have to get their heads chopped off? The middle east is in chaos because of interventions that she not only voted for but squawked and screamed for until she got her way. What was touted as a democratic uprising across the Arab world has led to ISIS/Al Qaeda proliferating in several Arab nations and the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people of all faiths. Often in the most cruel and barbaric ways imaginable.

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      1. jmprint October 19, 2016

        Is that why Bush and Cheney destroyed their emails?

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        1. dpaano October 19, 2016

          Good question….and we might ask that of Condi and Powell also….

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      2. jmprint October 19, 2016

        “George Soros pulling the strings and swamping America with violent Jihadists posing as refugees? ”

        Where are they?

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      3. stcroixcarp October 19, 2016

        YES! I do want George Soros pulling the strings. Just like you want the Kock Brothers pulling the strings. We both love Citizen’s United that allows the uber-wealthy and corporations to pour unlimited and unreported dollars into electing or defeating the candidates of their choice. I love legal bribery! Don’t you just hate the way the US and Iraqi forces are pushing ISIS out of Mosel?

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      4. charleo1 October 19, 2016

        Some question. “Do you really want George Soros pulling the strings, and swamping America with violet Jihadist posing as refugees?” And this is the other side of the conversation we’re expected to have with an ever growing number of people on the Right. This person (you) talk as if he/she were right there in the room with Soros as he dreamed the dream, and pulled the strings. And why would he do such a thing? [Soros] He’s evil of course. Why do you ask? Are a stupid Left Winger put in the dark by the liberal press you listen to? Where does one start to unpack such a mess? Who has the time? Raise your hand. Anyone? Anyone at all?

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      5. bobnstuff October 19, 2016

        So Clinton is all powerful and single handed created ISIS. The fact that misinformation was used to get us into a war has nothing to do with it. The Junior Senator from New York has limitless power it would seem. I love the myth that Jihadist are coming in with the refuges, there has been no proof that this is happening anywhere. Ask yourself why would they wait for a year or more to come in with a group that will be watched and helped instead of just getting false papers and flying in through JFK or LAX? Just what would Soros gain from bring terrorist into the country? I may be silly but this whole line of thought is stupid.

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  9. A. D. Reed October 19, 2016

    Thank you, Joe Conason, for calling out the media sheeple who follow this “story” with the same indifference to journalistic ethics that they have shown toward the Clintons for 30 years. As always with Clinton “scandals,” there’s no there there, but with very, VERY few exceptions — you and David Cay Johnson come to mind — the rest of the pack are like guppies in a fishtank: Just sprinkle some nutritionless “food” on the water and they all swim to the surface to feast rather than undertaking the actual work of swimming through the murk and weeds to find the truth. The GOP has mastered this control technique over a period of almost 40 years, and Trump has mastered the GOP.

    When I read these exposes of private parties’ emails, I, too, wonder how the same “journalists” would react if it were their personal emails, or even notes back and forth to editors and colleagues. In the same vein, I wonder — truly I do — how Trump’s supporters would feel if strangers came up to them (the women) or their wives (the men) and simply started groping them, forcing their hands up their skirts or down their slacks. Forcing their tongues down their throats and feeling their breasts. I wonder if Melania would like it should Bill Clinton to to her what Trump has done to scores of women. I wonder if Ivanka would consider it perfectly appropriate behavior. And would Mrs. Franklin Graham like it? Would Franklin approve it?

    Somehow, when the Donald does it and brags about it, it’s okay. He’s a “rich successful tycoon” (though not so rich and not at all successful). But if some average creep, like Giuliani or Gingrich or Christie, walked up to a woman on the street or in a private home or on an airplane and started groping her, they’d be under arrest in five minutes.

    What the f**k is wrong with this nation?

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    1. jmprint October 19, 2016

      Not nation, just Trump supporters, they have Trumpoid fever, and it will only break when he loses the election.

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      1. A. D. Reed October 19, 2016

        True. Let’s hope it does break.

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  10. jmprint October 19, 2016

    Great article, this has been on my mind, and I’m glad Joe finally vocalized it.

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  11. Lynda Groom October 19, 2016

    Julian would claim evasion of privacy.

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  12. Jon October 19, 2016

    Typical Republican hypocrisy. Don’t do as I do, do as I say. Trump, master hypocrite and the loudest whiner. would be crying like the bratty little child he is if the tables were turned.

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    1. Bren Frowick October 20, 2016

      He’s crying like a bratty little child anyway. A Republican Rick Wilson put it, “He’s a five-year-old intellect, wrapped in a bloated seventy-year-old body”

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  13. Thoughtopsy October 19, 2016

    Personally I would dearly love to see the trove of RNC emails throughout the GOP Primary process, and right up to now after the Bush Locker-room bus tape.

    Can you imagine what Reince, Ryan, McConnell and others were writing to each other over that period about their own Republican base voters and Trump?

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  14. francis.whitley October 19, 2016

    Acquire 90 bucks each day for working on the web from comfort of your own home for couple of hr’s on a daily base… Get paid regularly on a weekly basis… All what is required is a pc, connection to the internet, along with a little spare time… http://korta.nu/NDe

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  15. Bren Frowick October 20, 2016

    Thankfully, Ecuador has grown tired of their obnoxious guest and has cut off his access to the internet, as his pathetic Mayberry Machiavellianism might cause his hosts some diplomatic grief for interfering with an American election. Meanwhile, his latest “leaks” amounted to diddly-squat…

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    1. disqus_0fotImVld4 October 30, 2016

      Really? Assange has been stopped? Assange is alone in all this? Really?

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  16. Jmz Nesky October 21, 2016

    I tend to agree with the hack.. This bobblehead may be irrelevant to thinking individuals but to the ever growing schizoid population he’s considered the last word in tattling whether it be true or insufficient blathering that dead-ends into that all familiar ‘Wha??’. Fact is, no one person should have such power over the weak minded when it comes to politics, important individuals or issues and things that the brain dead hate in any case.. I say go for it and either expose the not so wonder boy else make him slither back into his mama’s basement. I consider him as useful as a sixth finger but others seem to enjoy the hype and pomp of being privy to personal garbage conjured up from the brain pan of a mental midget.

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